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Agreed. Choice between synths that complement each other is great but choice between 10 synths that all cover more or less the same ground just adds even more to the neverending list of AUv3s and asks for more time to learn that I don't have. Reduction is key.
But who knows, it may sound different enough.
Hmm, each to their own! I like Magellan. I love all the last few Virsyn releases too.
I guess the proof will be in the pudding! It will have to be a pretty special synth to beat out Zeeon or model D though! What I really want is someone nailing vactrols for crazy west coast stuff, or an ipad version of the wing pinger or something!
Same! Enough with the standard virtual analogue synths already! Let's get some experimental stuff. Plus, let's get devs who actually understand the power of touchscreen. That's why i like Zoa and Ooda - being able to press and release to jump to a new value is so great, especially for synced delays or any other time based effect. But this could equally apply to scales, keys etc. I'd love it if Bram Bos updated the Rozeta Suite, Scaler in particular, to have such functions. It would surely be a very minor piece of coding. When I asked jonaton (AUM dev) to do this for AU:Dub, it was done in a day.
Likewise. I’m completely over synths which promise to do everything and end up being a total mess to navigate and manage.
Agree. I really don’t get the sudden Yonac hate here. Love all of their synths and especially Steel Guitar.
I haven’t read one hate post about Yonac.
Magellan 2 is very similar to Kauldron (which I use frequently), so hoping this brings something unique to the table, but from the GUI, it's not clear what that might be. Remains to be seen/heard.
Whatever.
Magellan 2 was the first of their synths that didn't have the harsh 'Yonac Sound' (hard to describe but some know what I mean and recognize it, it could be forced oscillator phase-reset and/or lack of oversampling or something in that direction).
Tonestack Pro is also pure gold!
We don't know the pricing on this synth yet, it could even be a freebie
As is their habit, I expect the intro price to be ridiculously low and all of the add-ons to be at "too good to pass up" pricing. Always works for me.
I think this will be 'cheap' as there's (from what I can see) no pwm, sync or other more advanced synthesis methods at play.
The A-LFO does have key tracking so it can likely do analog FM.
Fake PWM can be done by mixing Ramp Up and Ramp Down so it could potentially be a quite nice synth after all...
I thought about it, and I have a feeling that while this synth may be simple on the surface, that its sound will definitely be worth whatever the asking price is, that it could be on par with Zeeon if not sound even more "analogue" without having to use Klevgrand Reamp to add in any "analogue" warmth.
A person saying they don’t like the sound of a developers apps is not hate.
It’s called an opinion or preference.
I like Magellan. His others that I e owned since his first, have been underwhelming. I guess that’s ‘hate’?
Well this snarky comment was unnecessary. And my reply to you is also unnecessary. 😂 Lol.
(It's called joking around. You should try it sometime.)
I appreciate your knowledge sir, it keeps informed so we can make “sound” - pun intended, purchases
It’s a turn of phrase, not literal “hatred.”.
Yup. I recall the Ensoniq synths also sounding ”harsh”, quite similar to Yonac stuff.
/DMfan🇸🇪
That's not how I recall the sound of the Ensoniq SD-1 which I had a pleasure of using back in the days...
...it was more on the warm and smooth side and didn't sound anything like the Roland and Yamaha synths of the same era (early 90s).
But hey, it's good we have options. Megallan 2 was a relief as I did NOT like the sound of the original Magellan.
So I have some hope for this new thing and will likely get it!
Found this 'weird' video of the Ensoniq SD-1...
I have ALL Yonacs synth and NEVER use them, not because I don’t like them but I’m past the point of having too many IPad synths too have time to use them all on top of having 4 hardware analog synths. Trooper looks like it’s right up my alley too but damn, I have no business buying one more software synth or plugin lol, I can’t wait to hear it and see some videos on it though
I’m with @Gavinski : I like Yonacs’ stuff, got it all, but… I’m ready for devs to bring on the interesting experimental things now.
More physical modellers, a virtual BitRanger or Bastl Kastl, Hainbach’s desktop apps, a virtual Torso T1 performance sequencer, things with a touchscreen -first GUI, but not something so incomprehensible as a user experience that I have to read a manual every time I want to use it…
I’d like to think a developer like Baby Audio could do something really interesting, with new paradigm thinking in the realm of synths.
I think they definitely could - but they really need to get their shit together when6it comes to making an interface suitable for iOS. They could learn a lot from FAC.
Which UI were you thinking they dropped the ball on? Crystalline? Only issue I have with that one is the text needs to be larger.
I'd say that the two-sided controls (gate, damping) are a bit hard to target without a mouse (or even with a mouse)
They are.
But it's also just that their apps don't scale properly at all. I have written to them complaining about this and recommended they learn from looking at how FAC apps scale and work beautifully horizontally, vertically or any which way. The Baby Audio stuff is great but it is a lazy port, like the Sonic Lab stuff.
The preset browsing in the Baby Audio stuff is definitely a bad experience too
I have a hope that @Hainbach and @brambos are on the cusp of doing something together! Hainbach has been a big proponent of filters and filtering, so I'd really like to see a software version of the wingie 2 or something. In addition I'd like to see something with a lot of feedback routing and stuff like the strega...
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Thick basses, buttery leads, feathery pads — Trooper is a total synth explosion that crams it all and more in a neat little package. It sounds HUGE, yet tweaks easy. It’s coated in analog “fat,” yet bursts with tonal surprises nestled across its controls. Get ready for an all-out sonic assault, because Trooper is here and it's our meanest, beastliest, user-friendliest synth yet!
Many of Trooper’s parameters are meant to interact and meld together in novel ways. For example, the oscillator volumes —beyond just acting as mere blend knobs— vary the characteristics of the basic signal depending on how far they are “pushed". The emphasis is on providing warm and round basic tones with lots of variable harmonic content.
The primary oscillators are backed by an audible LFO that is both a sound source and a wide frequency range modulator. This lets FM-based sounds to combine with traditional waveforms. A pink/white noise generator helps out pads and percussions, and insidiously changes tonality when added in small amounts.
A new filter implementation complements the pugnacity of the signal generators. In its middish settings, the resonance can be characterized as “throaty.” The filter is capable of self-oscillating, and can be controlled via the keyboard. The mated ADSR envelope is shaped to provide tonal ‘immediacy’ and smooth frequency shifts. The amount knob has a wide range that changes the feel and shape of the envelope, especially when pushed above the mid-level.
The output stage features a virtual VCA that imparts tones colloquially termed as “fat”. Extra modulation is provided by a non-audible LFO and a dedicated envelope. The LFO offers numerous wave shapes, BPM syncing, and key tracking. Its output is controllable via the mod wheel, velocity, or aftertouch.
The Esprit parameter helps deploy some of the Trooper “special sauce.” Highly interactive with the stages preceding it, Esprit is known to be handy in tightening up bass tones, and in adding the "je nais se quois” to presets at large. The Get6 parameter is a one-touch ticket to big, mix-filling synth sounds. So whenever you’re lost in an empty mix…it’s got your six.
The arpeggiator inspires rhythms with five algorithms, variable note value, octave range, and gate. The “Texturizer" purveys a wide range of modulation effects that include chorus, flanging, variable comb, resonant delay, and stereo imaging. The BPM-syncable two-tap delay has time and feedback controls per channel, and is tuned a little darker than our usual offerings. Trooper can run in monophonic or polyphonic mode, the latter providing up to 12 voices. Legato is available in either mode.
The robust MIDI implementation also includes MPE support, and the synth is able to I/O MIDI performance data. The “MagTouch” virtual controller lets you to play and record (in AUv3 hosts so enabled) over the MPE protocol. MIDI learn is made easy via a visual interface, and users can save, patch-link, and share MIDI CC maps. Bluetooth MIDI input is also supported.
The AUv3 implementation lets you to run multiple instances of Trooper in DAWs. Trooper’s fluid UI accommodates a wide variety of screen sizes and view configurations. Feature navigation is designed to be nonintrusive so that parameters can be accessed easily. The iPad implementation supports portrait layout, so that pretty much all is on one screen.
Included are over 250 presets that range from deep basses to weird so-and-so's, stopping by many other sounds along the way. The powerful YPAT2 system helps you save, catalog, and share presets with ease.
The standalone app provides a “Tapedeck” to record, save, and share your ideas on the quick. It features a built-in looper, and a metronome with configurable time signature. The standalone also features tap tempo, and MIDI clock syncing. DSP is in high resolution 64-bit, with native processing at up to 96kHz.