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id700 v1.18

modoscmodosc
in General App Discussion

(sorry for the shameless self-promotion but i think this is better than necro'ing several older threads)

after more than a week in app store review purgatory id700 1.18 is finally out for ios. the main change is a new algorithm ui which makes it easier to understand wtf is happening:

i hope this makes the learning curve less steep for everyone. i appreciate and pay attention to the feedback here and want you to know there will be more updates in the future (as well as a new app, stay tuned).

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  • wimwim
    edited September 2022

    Oh wow! That is much clearer. Thank you!

  • NeuMNeuM

    As I mentioned in another thread, this layout improvement now makes it far more clear how the synth works. Great update.

  • bygjohnbygjohn

    The signal flow is a lot clearer now. Thank you for the update.

  • israeliteisraelite

    Looks amazing. Good job

  • craftycuratecraftycurate

    This is great thanks. Still one of the best out there :)

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike

    Thank you 🙏🏻 blessings to you

  • SlushSlush

    I heard some amazing sound demos. Most def on my short list.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Been having a lot of fun with this app, thanks for the update!

  • parnarules_85parnarules_85

    Great update, thank you! My fav synth on IOS just got even better :smile:

    Any hints on the new app? Will it be another emulation of a rare synth?

  • auxmuxauxmux

    Awesome, great update.

  • drewinnitdrewinnit

    Love this synth, and really appreciate the new UI - cheers!

  • PxlhgPxlhg

    Great! Thanks. :) I managed much faster to get some crazy going and, almost, understanding it too ;)

  • michael_mmichael_m

    That looks really good!

  • CrawlingwindCrawlingwind

    Awesome work on the UI - looks great!

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps
    edited September 2022

    I thought it looked much cleaner and more natural before. BUT it’s still a great synth, the sleeper iOS classic to me

  • ghost_forestsghost_forests
    edited October 2022

    @modosc said:
    (sorry for the shameless self-promotion but i think this is better than necro'ing several older threads)

    If I’d made one of the best iOS synths ever created I’d be shouting it from the rooftops every day on here

  • RockBottomRockBottom
    edited September 2022

    ID700 1.1 manual, page 9, @modosc wrote:
    Indexes may also have perpendicular connections — these are timbre modulation inputs […].

    I agree the new UI looks cleaner, but now that most connections are attached horizontally we’ve definitely lost one dimension of the visual representation; moreover, the way timbre indexes are represented now forces a twisted interpretation of the signal flow… for instance, consider algorithm 1:

    • version 1.1: signal from index 2 was an input of index 3; and index 5 —> index 6
    • version 1.18: signal from index 3 is now an input of index 2; and index 6 —> index 5

    But as @oat_phipps said above, it’s still a great synth!

  • SynthiSynthi

    Thanks @modosc ! Even better now 😍

  • modoscmodosc

    @RockBottom said:

    ID700 1.1 manual, page 9, @modosc wrote:
    Indexes may also have perpendicular connections — these are timbre modulation inputs […].

    I agree the new UI looks cleaner, but now that most connections are attached horizontally we’ve definitely lost one dimension of the visual representation; moreover, the way timbre indexes are represented now forces a twisted interpretation of the signal flow… for instance, consider algorithm 1:

    • version 1.1: signal from index 2 was an input of index 3; and index 5 —> index 6
    • version 1.18: signal from index 3 is now an input of index 2; and index 6 —> index 5

    i'm happy to see someone read the manual! i do have updates for it that i'm working on which will include the new algorithm layout (as well as some analysis and suggestions for each algorithm).

    the "perpendicular connections are for TM" paradigm came from the 700 originally, and trying to keep that made the ui harder to implement. abandoning it allowed me to do this latest revision.i think the arrows also help make things clearer.

    in terms of whether this new approach is more "twisted" - a timbre index is really just another amplifier applied to the amplitude output. it's hard to say whether this is best represented as directly modulating the amplitude (which is how the 700 and < 1.18 did it) or modulating the output of amplitude (which is how 1.18 does it). internally it's sort of both.

  • modoscmodosc

    @ghost_forests said:

    @modosc said:
    (sorry for the shameless self-promotion but i think this is better than necro'ing several older threads)

    If I’d made one of the best iOS synths every created I’d be shouting it from the rooftops every day on here

    thank you, that's the greatest complement i've ever received. this work is not my day job and it's hard sometimes to find the motivation to spend my free time keeping it going. i hope my tools inspire folks to make art and have fun.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @modosc said:

    @ghost_forests said:

    @modosc said:
    (sorry for the shameless self-promotion but i think this is better than necro'ing several older threads)

    If I’d made one of the best iOS synths every created I’d be shouting it from the rooftops every day on here

    thank you, that's the greatest complement i've ever received. this work is not my day job and it's hard sometimes to find the motivation to spend my free time keeping it going. i hope my tools inspire folks to make art and have fun.

    They do!!!

  • Philandering_BastardPhilandering_Bastard

    @modosc said:

    @ghost_forests said:

    @modosc said:
    (sorry for the shameless self-promotion but i think this is better than necro'ing several older threads)

    If I’d made one of the best iOS synths every created I’d be shouting it from the rooftops every day on here

    thank you, that's the greatest complement i've ever received. this work is not my day job and it's hard sometimes to find the motivation to spend my free time keeping it going. i hope my tools inspire folks to make art and have fun.

    Absolutely!

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @modosc said:

    @ghost_forests said:

    @modosc said:
    (sorry for the shameless self-promotion but i think this is better than necro'ing several older threads)

    If I’d made one of the best iOS synths every created I’d be shouting it from the rooftops every day on here

    thank you, that's the greatest complement i've ever received. this work is not my day job and it's hard sometimes to find the motivation to spend my free time keeping it going. i hope my tools inspire folks to make art and have fun.

    ID700 is one of my new favorites too.

  • SkyblazerSkyblazer

    @modosc said:

    @ghost_forests said:

    @modosc said:
    (sorry for the shameless self-promotion but i think this is better than necro'ing several older threads)

    If I’d made one of the best iOS synths every created I’d be shouting it from the rooftops every day on here

    thank you, that's the greatest complement i've ever received. this work is not my day job and it's hard sometimes to find the motivation to spend my free time keeping it going. i hope my tools inspire folks to make art and have fun.

    It's my favorite synth to use with the Akai EWI, and one of my favorite synths in general.

  • michael_mmichael_m

    @modosc said:

    @ghost_forests said:

    @modosc said:
    (sorry for the shameless self-promotion but i think this is better than necro'ing several older threads)

    If I’d made one of the best iOS synths every created I’d be shouting it from the rooftops every day on here

    thank you, that's the greatest complement i've ever received. this work is not my day job and it's hard sometimes to find the motivation to spend my free time keeping it going. i hope my tools inspire folks to make art and have fun.

    Definitely! The best iOS synths for me are the ones that I can spend hours tweaking, and this one provides hours of fun.

  • tahichetahiche

    @modosc said:

    @ghost_forests said:

    @modosc said:
    (sorry for the shameless self-promotion but i think this is better than necro'ing several older threads)

    If I’d made one of the best iOS synths every created I’d be shouting it from the rooftops every day on here

    thank you, that's the greatest complement i've ever received. this work is not my day job and it's hard sometimes to find the motivation to spend my free time keeping it going. i hope my tools inspire folks to make art and have fun.

    I don’t understand it but I love it!. In my case it’s 99% unpredictable and I get unexpected awesomeness 🙃

  • FingolfinzzFingolfinzz

    Now that I have my head wrapped around this a little more after finally rtfm, this is probably my new favorite synth. It’s just ridiculously deep and expressive

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Now that I have my head wrapped around this a little more after finally rtfm, this is probably my new favorite synth. It’s just ridiculously deep and expressive

    This synth is incredible. It's just a pity that it came out just after I got my cataract operations and was clearly going to take up too much of my time and be hard on my eyes to make a video on. This was around the time I pretty much stopped making spoken walkthroughs for a very long time. I did actually read the manual deeply and got a decent grasp of it. Maybe I will get round to making a vid on it some day. It certainly deserves a ton of exposure! It does have a hell of a lot of reviews on the appstore compared to most apps, so that says a lot!

  • craftycuratecraftycurate

    @Gavinski said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Now that I have my head wrapped around this a little more after finally rtfm, this is probably my new favorite synth. It’s just ridiculously deep and expressive

    This synth is incredible. It's just a pity that it came out just after I got my cataract operations and was clearly going to take up too much of my time and be hard on my eyes to make a video on. This was around the time I pretty much stopped making spoken walkthroughs for a very long time. I did actually read the manual deeply and got a decent grasp of it. Maybe I will get round to making a vid on it some day. It certainly deserves a ton of exposure! It does have a hell of a lot of reviews on the appstore compared to most apps, so that says a lot!

    +1 it is a real gem. And it has a very detailed manual, which tends to accompany those apps which I dive most deeply into and enjoy the most e.g. the Sugar Bytes ones.

  • SvetlovskaSvetlovska
    edited January 2023

    @modosc: Just wanted to say that from launch this has remained absolutely one of my favourite and most interesting synths, since I started the whole iPad music making thing.

    Honestly, I don’t have a clue what I’m doing with it, even after rtfm, that’s on me, not you, but despite weapons grade ignorance on my part, I find it very tweakable and it is rare that I mess it and don’t stumble over some unique sounding noise I end up building a track around. It really stands out from the crowd, a very inspiring app! :)

    Whatever you make next will have my fullest attention! :)

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