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  • @Mountain_Hamlet said:
    I saw Australia dodged this increase, but to be fair I think we've been paying an extra "Apple Tax" here all along for apps and hardware.

    Same as in the UK, probably why they didn’t include us in the new increases.

  • @knewspeak said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @knewspeak said:
    Taxes for the extremely wealthy down, prices up for everyone, seems quite fair :#

    At least in the US, the very wealthy already pay the lion's share of taxes and about 1/2 of the citizenry pays no Federal taxes, which is not at all equitable. I support eliminating the IRS (Internal Revenue Service), eliminating the income tax and implementing the "FairTax", which would ensure that everyone pays their so-called "fair share".

    This is a gross misrepresentation of the reality. The income and wealth distribution in the U.S. is exceedingly skewed. For instance 50% if the stock market is owned by those at the top 1% of income.

    Those at the bottom who pay no income taxes … are doing so because they live below the poverty line.

    The very wealthy generally pay a much smaller percent of their total income as taxes as the rest of us. The total amount may seem large but as a percentage of their income it is often shockingly low.

    Here is an article that walls through some of the relevant facts.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/fact-check-richest-1-dont-pay-40-of-the-taxes.html

    I presume they pay taxes on goods varying by state?

    Let's drag this off-topic subject to a new thread, yes?

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/52151/how-much-is-too-much/p1?new=1

  • edited September 2022

    @knewspeak said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @knewspeak said:
    Taxes for the extremely wealthy down, prices up for everyone, seems quite fair :#

    At least in the US, the very wealthy already pay the lion's share of taxes and about 1/2 of the citizenry pays no Federal taxes, which is not at all equitable. I support eliminating the IRS (Internal Revenue Service), eliminating the income tax and implementing the "FairTax", which would ensure that everyone pays their so-called "fair share".

    This is a gross misrepresentation of the reality. The income and wealth distribution in the U.S. is exceedingly skewed. For instance 50% if the stock market is owned by those at the top 1% of income.

    Those at the bottom who pay no income taxes … are doing so because they live below the poverty line.

    The very wealthy generally pay a much smaller percent of their total income as taxes as the rest of us. The total amount may seem large but as a percentage of their income it is often shockingly low.

    Here is an article that walls through some of the relevant facts.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/fact-check-richest-1-dont-pay-40-of-the-taxes.html

    I presume they pay taxes on goods varying by state?

    Or not, my state doesn’t even have a tax on goods.

  • edited September 2022

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  • @alexwasashrimp said:
    If only they had waited for Black Friday before unleashing that crap on us.

    Absolutely yes.... just started making a BF list a few weeks ago.

  • @Tarekith said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @knewspeak said:
    Taxes for the extremely wealthy down, prices up for everyone, seems quite fair :#

    At least in the US, the very wealthy already pay the lion's share of taxes and about 1/2 of the citizenry pays no Federal taxes, which is not at all equitable. I support eliminating the IRS (Internal Revenue Service), eliminating the income tax and implementing the "FairTax", which would ensure that everyone pays their so-called "fair share".

    This is a gross misrepresentation of the reality. The income and wealth distribution in the U.S. is exceedingly skewed. For instance 50% if the stock market is owned by those at the top 1% of income.

    Those at the bottom who pay no income taxes … are doing so because they live below the poverty line.

    The very wealthy generally pay a much smaller percent of their total income as taxes as the rest of us. The total amount may seem large but as a percentage of their income it is often shockingly low.

    Here is an article that walls through some of the relevant facts.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/fact-check-richest-1-dont-pay-40-of-the-taxes.html

    I presume they pay taxes on goods varying by state?

    Or not, my state doesn’t even have a tax on goods.

    That's a good state. Which one?

  • @knewspeak said:
    Taxes for the extremely wealthy down, prices up for everyone, seems quite fair :#

    Major corporations have been recording record profits over the last several years.

  • edited September 2022

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @knewspeak said:
    Taxes for the extremely wealthy down, prices up for everyone, seems quite fair :#

    Major corporations have been recording record profits over the last several years.

    Although it should also be noted that everything is more expensive due to a huge increase in inflation. In my area, everything is 20-40% higher than it was 2 years ago. Those profits aren’t as high as previously thought because the money is now worth even less.

  • @NeuM said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @knewspeak said:
    Taxes for the extremely wealthy down, prices up for everyone, seems quite fair :#

    Major corporations have been recording record profits over the last several years.

    Although it should also be noted that everything is more expensive due to a huge increase in inflation. In my area, everything is 20-40% higher than it was 2 years ago. Those profits aren’t as high as previously thought because the money is now worth even less.

    What country do you live in? In the U.S. total inflation is nothing like 20-40% on everything over the last 2 years.

  • @NeuM said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @knewspeak said:
    Taxes for the extremely wealthy down, prices up for everyone, seems quite fair :#

    Major corporations have been recording record profits over the last several years.

    Although it should also be noted that everything is more expensive due to a huge increase in inflation. In my area, everything is 20-40% higher than it was 2 years ago. Those profits aren’t as high as previously thought because the money is now worth even less.

    Valid point.

    The last 3 years I’ve only found one product that has gone down in price. 1.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @knewspeak said:
    Taxes for the extremely wealthy down, prices up for everyone, seems quite fair :#

    Major corporations have been recording record profits over the last several years.

    Although it should also be noted that everything is more expensive due to a huge increase in inflation. In my area, everything is 20-40% higher than it was 2 years ago. Those profits aren’t as high as previously thought because the money is now worth even less.

    What country do you live in? In the U.S. total inflation is nothing like 20-40% on everything over the last 2 years.

    I live in the country of California, where taxes are higher on everything. And the “minimum wage” is soon to be $22/hr. Everything is outrageously expensive and needlessly so. California also has the biggest outmigration of residents than any State in the US. This is because the cost of living is through the roof.

  • @Poppadocrock said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @knewspeak said:
    Taxes for the extremely wealthy down, prices up for everyone, seems quite fair :#

    Major corporations have been recording record profits over the last several years.

    Although it should also be noted that everything is more expensive due to a huge increase in inflation. In my area, everything is 20-40% higher than it was 2 years ago. Those profits aren’t as high as previously thought because the money is now worth even less.

    Valid point.

    The last 3 years I’ve only found one product that has gone down in price. 1.

    Which one?

  • wimwim
    edited September 2022

    There is one upside. Only 15% of the increases go to Apple. The other 85% goes to developers, I assume. So that is protecting them from the effects of currency rate fluctuations as well. I think.

    As for Apple profits, every shareholder and everyone who has a retirement or other savings plan, or mutual fund, that invests in Apple, benefits from their stock remaining healthy. It doesn't all go into the pockets of just a few.

    It's not unusual for companies to adjust pricing based on fluctuations of other currencies vs. their own.

    On the other hand ... they never seem to go down based on fluctuations the other way now, do they? :|

  • @NeuM said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @knewspeak said:
    Taxes for the extremely wealthy down, prices up for everyone, seems quite fair :#

    Major corporations have been recording record profits over the last several years.

    Although it should also be noted that everything is more expensive due to a huge increase in inflation. In my area, everything is 20-40% higher than it was 2 years ago. Those profits aren’t as high as previously thought because the money is now worth even less.

    What country do you live in? In the U.S. total inflation is nothing like 20-40% on everything over the last 2 years.

    I live in the country of California, where taxes are higher on everything. And the “minimum wage” is soon to be $22/hr. Everything is outrageously expensive and needlessly so. California also has the biggest outmigration of residents than any State in the US. This is because the cost of living is through the roof.

    Inflation on everything in California over the past 2 years has not been 20-40%.

  • edited September 2022

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @knewspeak said:
    Taxes for the extremely wealthy down, prices up for everyone, seems quite fair :#

    Major corporations have been recording record profits over the last several years.

    Although it should also be noted that everything is more expensive due to a huge increase in inflation. In my area, everything is 20-40% higher than it was 2 years ago. Those profits aren’t as high as previously thought because the money is now worth even less.

    What country do you live in? In the U.S. total inflation is nothing like 20-40% on everything over the last 2 years.

    I live in the country of California, where taxes are higher on everything. And the “minimum wage” is soon to be $22/hr. Everything is outrageously expensive and needlessly so. California also has the biggest outmigration of residents than any State in the US. This is because the cost of living is through the roof.

    Inflation on everything in California over the past 2 years has not been 20-40%.

    You really love picking nits. Do you live here?

  • wimwim
    edited September 2022

    Weed prices have come down radically in California. That balances it out.

  • edited September 2022

    During Covid, and the leftists communist anti corporation scare of the 2021-2022, corporations increased their profits in record breaking numbers. Inflation is only for the poor.

  • @NeuM said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @knewspeak said:
    Taxes for the extremely wealthy down, prices up for everyone, seems quite fair :#

    Major corporations have been recording record profits over the last several years.

    Although it should also be noted that everything is more expensive due to a huge increase in inflation. In my area, everything is 20-40% higher than it was 2 years ago. Those profits aren’t as high as previously thought because the money is now worth even less.

    What country do you live in? In the U.S. total inflation is nothing like 20-40% on everything over the last 2 years.

    I live in the country of California, where taxes are higher on everything. And the “minimum wage” is soon to be $22/hr. Everything is outrageously expensive and needlessly so. California also has the biggest outmigration of residents than any State in the US. This is because the cost of living is through the roof.

    Inflation on everything in California over the past 2 years has not been 20-40%.

    You really love picking nits. Do you live here?

    I am not picking nits. You are exaggerating the situation and acting as if your exaggeration is fact.

  • edited September 2022

    @wim said:
    Weed prices have come down radically in California. That balances it out.

    I see. And I don't partake.

  • @magnusovi said:
    During Covid, and the leftists communist anti corporation scare of the 2021-2022, corporations increased their profits in record breaking numbers. Inflation is only for the poor.

    I won't start an argument because I don't care enough. But that doesn't seem like it adds up to me. If corporations were raking in the bucks, then I would expect the stock market to rise in proportion. It has tanked. I'm probably over simplifying and missing a lot. But it does make me wonder if that's really the case in a general sense as you've stated it.

  • edited September 2022

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @knewspeak said:
    Taxes for the extremely wealthy down, prices up for everyone, seems quite fair :#

    Major corporations have been recording record profits over the last several years.

    Although it should also be noted that everything is more expensive due to a huge increase in inflation. In my area, everything is 20-40% higher than it was 2 years ago. Those profits aren’t as high as previously thought because the money is now worth even less.

    What country do you live in? In the U.S. total inflation is nothing like 20-40% on everything over the last 2 years.

    I live in the country of California, where taxes are higher on everything. And the “minimum wage” is soon to be $22/hr. Everything is outrageously expensive and needlessly so. California also has the biggest outmigration of residents than any State in the US. This is because the cost of living is through the roof.

    Inflation on everything in California over the past 2 years has not been 20-40%.

    You really love picking nits. Do you live here?

    I am not picking nits. You are exaggerating the situation and acting as if your exaggeration is fact.

    Nationally, commonly purchased grocery items are up between 8-12%. In California, it's closer to 20-40%, based on my own data tracking.

    Gas is still about double what it was 2 years ago. And those exorbitantly high gas prices affect the cost of everything that needs to be transported.

    https://news.yahoo.com/gas-prices-falling-across-u-215608569.html&c=16051052192538071965&mkt=en-us

    New cars are now 19.62% more expensive than 2 years ago.

    https://www.in2013dollars.com/New-cars/price-inflation/2000-to-2022?amount=30000

    Do your own homework and provide evidence to the contrary if it's available. Making contradictory statements without providing evidence is played out.

  • @NeuM said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @knewspeak said:
    Taxes for the extremely wealthy down, prices up for everyone, seems quite fair :#

    Major corporations have been recording record profits over the last several years.

    Although it should also be noted that everything is more expensive due to a huge increase in inflation. In my area, everything is 20-40% higher than it was 2 years ago. Those profits aren’t as high as previously thought because the money is now worth even less.

    Valid point.

    The last 3 years I’ve only found one product that has gone down in price. 1.

    Which one?

    Marijuana products, flower, vape cartridges, etc at the medical dispensary.

  • @NeuM said:

    @wim said:
    Weed prices have come down radically in California. That balances it out.

    Haha. And I don't partake.

    Lol. I didn’t even see this. That’s funny because that is the only thing I’ve noticed that’s dropped in overall pricing. I’m in Maryland.

  • @Poppadocrock said:

    @NeuM said:

    @wim said:
    Weed prices have come down radically in California. That balances it out.

    Haha. And I don't partake.

    Lol. I didn’t even see this. That’s funny because that is the only thing I’ve noticed that’s dropped in overall pricing. I’m in Maryland.

    Although I don't use it, I'm actually glad more States went ahead and legalized it. Too many people were (and still are) being thrown in jail for something they use voluntarily and harm no one else with.

  • @magnusovi said:
    During Covid, and the leftists communist anti corporation scare of the 2021-2022, corporations increased their profits in record breaking numbers. Inflation is only for the poor.

    Uhhhh…I really wanted to comment but… I’ll refrain.

  • edited September 2022

    @NeuM said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @knewspeak said:
    Taxes for the extremely wealthy down, prices up for everyone, seems quite fair :#

    Major corporations have been recording record profits over the last several years.

    Although it should also be noted that everything is more expensive due to a huge increase in inflation. In my area, everything is 20-40% higher than it was 2 years ago. Those profits aren’t as high as previously thought because the money is now worth even less.

    What country do you live in? In the U.S. total inflation is nothing like 20-40% on everything over the last 2 years.

    I live in the country of California, where taxes are higher on everything. And the “minimum wage” is soon to be $22/hr. Everything is outrageously expensive and needlessly so. California also has the biggest outmigration of residents than any State in the US. This is because the cost of living is through the roof.

    Inflation on everything in California over the past 2 years has not been 20-40%.

    You really love picking nits. Do you live here?

    I am not picking nits. You are exaggerating the situation and acting as if your exaggeration is fact.

    Nationally, commonly purchased grocery items are up between 8-12%. In California, it's closer to 20-40%, based on my own data tracking.

    Gas is still about double what it was 2 years ago. And those exorbitantly high gas prices affect the cost of everything that needs to be transported.

    https://news.yahoo.com/gas-prices-falling-across-u-215608569.html&c=16051052192538071965&mkt=en-us

    New cars are now 19.62% more expensive than 2 years ago.

    https://www.in2013dollars.com/New-cars/price-inflation/2000-to-2022?amount=30000

    Do your own homework and provide evidence to the contrary if it's available. Making contradictory statements without providing evidence is played out.

    Seems like evidence (at least for major urban areas) doesn’t support your theory:

    https://www.bls.gov/regions/west/news-release/consumerpriceindex_losangeles.htm

    https://www.bls.gov/regions/west/news-release/consumerpriceindex_sanfrancisco.htm

  • @NeuM said:

    @wim said:
    Weed prices have come down radically in California. That balances it out.

    I see. And I don't partake.

    Well, there's your solution then. You just need to take up consuming mass quantities to balance things out.

    I learned that from my wife, who regularly saves me massive $$$ by buying clothes and shoes because they're on sale.

  • @NeuM: the 8-12% you now cite doesn’t actually seem close to 20-40%. Even doubling that (which hasn’t been the case if talking about prices across the board) is 16%-24%.

  • edited September 2022

    @michael_m said:

    @NeuM said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @knewspeak said:
    Taxes for the extremely wealthy down, prices up for everyone, seems quite fair :#

    Major corporations have been recording record profits over the last several years.

    Although it should also be noted that everything is more expensive due to a huge increase in inflation. In my area, everything is 20-40% higher than it was 2 years ago. Those profits aren’t as high as previously thought because the money is now worth even less.

    What country do you live in? In the U.S. total inflation is nothing like 20-40% on everything over the last 2 years.

    I live in the country of California, where taxes are higher on everything. And the “minimum wage” is soon to be $22/hr. Everything is outrageously expensive and needlessly so. California also has the biggest outmigration of residents than any State in the US. This is because the cost of living is through the roof.

    Inflation on everything in California over the past 2 years has not been 20-40%.

    You really love picking nits. Do you live here?

    I am not picking nits. You are exaggerating the situation and acting as if your exaggeration is fact.

    Nationally, commonly purchased grocery items are up between 8-12%. In California, it's closer to 20-40%, based on my own data tracking.

    Gas is still about double what it was 2 years ago. And those exorbitantly high gas prices affect the cost of everything that needs to be transported.

    https://news.yahoo.com/gas-prices-falling-across-u-215608569.html&c=16051052192538071965&mkt=en-us

    New cars are now 19.62% more expensive than 2 years ago.

    https://www.in2013dollars.com/New-cars/price-inflation/2000-to-2022?amount=30000

    Do your own homework and provide evidence to the contrary if it's available. Making contradictory statements without providing evidence is played out.

    Seems like evidence (at least for major urban areas) doesn’t support your theory:

    https://www.bls.gov/regions/west/news-release/consumerpriceindex_losangeles.htm

    https://www.bls.gov/regions/west/news-release/consumerpriceindex_sanfrancisco.htm

    To the contrary, I said over the last two years and cited gas prices, grocery items and cars. Your source cites none of those in the chart. It actually says, "Energy prices rose 20.7 percent" (over the last year).

    "Over the year, the index for all items less food and energy rose 6.2 percent. Components contributing to the increase included new and used motor vehicles (13.4 percent), medical care (6.9 percent), and shelter (5.2 percent)."

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