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I should mention what’s occurred over the past 4 years with me
Prepandemic I’d take the tube and train to work and make Gadget compositions on my phone or iPad, progressing them over the weekends, writing lyrics concurrently and making songs, one after the other.
At some point in late summer I’d have a bunch of Gadget songs, sets of lyrics, and I’d export recordings of the audio tracks and move those into Auria and then sing into Auria (which lets me do multiple takes on the spot) and then gain-stage/mix/master the result into a finished song, collect the whole album together, release it (distrokid in those days, don’t know what I’d use now).
So that’s an album written in Gadget, and effectively recorded in Auria.
I did that twice, once in 2018 and again in 2019. Never using any sound outside Gadget other than my own voice in Auria.
Pandemic came along and I grew dissatisfied with the gadget compositions because I saw compositional weaknesses that I considered to be artefacts of the way Gadget made me work. So I took all the Gadget MIDI for a song into Logic Pro X (which I’m highly familiar with and therefore very comfortable and confident in) and using external synths I re-recorded that song. Then re-sang it (better at singing by then, paying more attention to the art of it). That gave me a vastly superior song than the Gadget equiv, so I specced out a project of remaking a bunch of those songs – not the whole lot, I used this as an excuse to dump any songs I now didn’t like, so this is a sort of ‘greatest hits’ (where hit = 1 person bought the original albums).
This project is coming to an end now, but I have noticed that although it’s been a wonderful adventure of using my external (ie physical (ie hardware)) synths, I must say that as this year wore on, I stopped using the external physical hardware synths quite so much (because with one thing and another I simply have no room or time to set up a place to put a synth as big as for eg the Opsix, the Behringer Cat being about the only exception as it’s under my desk and can sit on my Wacom).
Instead I’ve started to look back at the original Gadget compositions where I used a lot of widdly-widdly parameter insanity (sometimes from a Lightpad I carried with me in my bag, mostly by drawing the CC values in on Gadget) and finding that they actually sounded good in their original Gadget synths because by the later times of those Gadget compositions I was mostly using Lexington and Montpellier and no other synth. The CC values are meaningful to those particular synths, not easily translatable to others (and not applicable at all to the Behringer Cat, that’s hand-mangled).
Lately then, I’ve been using some of the originally-composed Gadget synths back again in these new rewrites, but as Gadget synths loaded into Logic Pro X. On macOS I only have Gadget 1 (when they do a price offer like they often do, but actually include the Gadget 2 macOS upgrade for once, then I’ll upgrade, until then, I won’t). Consequently, having Gadget 1 on macOS allows me to use all those synths in Logic Pro X and have the CC values work as I originally intended (I must admit those needed a bit of editing/rationalising, they were done on the tube and probably could be better).
Gadget gadgets in Logic Pro X. That’s where I’m at now.
Interesting story. Thanks.
When i changed from gadget to Drambo I had the same problem. Now im happy with zeeon, digitalism, OBxD, poison-202, steel guitar pro, tera pro, synth master one and 2 , now trooper… there are so many options that i don’t miss gadget’s sounds anymore.
Also having access to great fx changes everything. My template has sidechain ready to use so im up and running in no time. Programing drums on gadget was a pain
Had a great session with Drambo and Gadget using Audiobus yesterday, inspired by this thread. Bringing back two of the classics. Made me wish that Audiobus had support for multi-out AUs like Drambo.
I’m doing a similar approach but with Bitwig instead of Logic X. Gadget 2 on the iPad can export the track as Ableton Live Set. Then I can import that with Bitwig. I own the Gadget plugin suite, so the track sounds identical to the iPad version. Then I start adding effects and jam around in the clip mode which is much better in Bitwig since I can use my Launchpad X for that.
Then I record my clip jam to timeline and finalize the track. Adding audio tracks with recorded vocals or instruments. Maybe adding an audio track with Splice bridge or Loopcloud plugin for adlibs or other audio snippets. Adding Bitwig modulation. Replacing and adding some synths. Of course it’s possible to do the same workflow with Ableton.
I wish I could do the same with Drambo. I think this could be achieved by using the Drambo plugin as a synth for each track in the exported .als file. At least for Ableton this could work since it can run AUv3s now.
Gadget and Drambo are for me the best environments for mobile music making
When I get time, i need to give Gadget a go - the same with Cubasis 3 (that I bought 3 months ago in a sale but haven't touched). As a GB user, I support I got a bit annoyed by Korg not bothering making the iM1 AUV3 - so i was very limited to what I could do with it in GB, and took the view that I wasn't going to buy more into their ecosystem (even though I've heavily bought into Apple's ecosystem!).
For my music purposes, GB does everything I need and coupled together with some of the brilliant AUV3s (Poison, Isymphonic, Synthmaster 1/2, Lyricism etc) and inspiration apps such as Scaler2, Riffler, Piano motifs, it just fits perfecly with my workflow and the way my mind wanted to create music - and i've been looking for over 30 years to find something which tapped into what I felt I could do).
It's all about time
@matdun25848834
It’s even more criminal they haven’t made iM1 au when you consider that they haven’t even fixed the issue where user presets don’t show up in Darwin. So here you have the greatest synth maybe ever, and I can’t use my presets in Gadget
Try using the controller knobs in their drum/sample machine Bilbao, it’s terrible and it has been like this for ages..
The import doesn't work quite right either. The import folder for Bilbao in Files app should be able to support subfolders, but only root level files can be loaded.
Hmm, I have a bunch of sample folders including sub-folders in my Gadget folder and can easily access all *.wav files?!
Same with my *.rx2 files, those are organized into folders as well?!
Weird, I just tried this the other night and it didn't work for me. I can navigate and see the files in the Gadget's browser but when I click on them nothing happens. Did you copy the folders into Gadget's Files folder or import them using Gadget and then organized them?
I've always copied to folders into the Gadget folder using Files.app when Gadget is not running.
I don't remember which Gadget version it was that got support for Subfolders, prior to that everything had to be at root-level.
In Bilbao it's easy to miss that you have to tap on the 'Sample' button to choose the sample, when you do that you can tap 'Local' and select the Folders inside Gadget folder.
In this example I've navigated into the Volca Sample folder, that folder is in the Gadget folder.
Cheers!
Thanks @Samu Got it to work. Seems like Gadget indexes files at the start of the session, but I was importing while the app was running, so that could be the issue.
@auxmux If the files are in the iCloud then Gadget struggles with reloading them if they have been flushed from the local cached version of the iCloud files. I find that I need to ‘touch’ the files, normally by copying the folder to the local storage so that they get put back in the cache. Ideally, Gadget would do this itself when you try and access the files but it does not seem to do so, for me anyway.
Thanks @MisplacedDevelopment Using local storage so might be ok now.
Ive had some difficulty bringing the Gadget Ableton projects into Bitwig. Did you have to do any problem solving to make this work?
Remember having issues as well, something to do with the sample length been set too short when a imported sample length is longer. This statement needs a double check.
I have no problems with that. Which problems do you have?
i just tried it out after i wrote and import was slick and easy
i don’t know what the deal was last time. thnx for getting back to me!
But the greatest hardware synths didn't have presets. I get that it's a drag that it doesn't show user presets, but it wasn't that long ago that people had to make formula sheets to remember synth presets.
Apps like Audiobus and AUM allows the user to save presets in the app directly. I don't rely on that though...I usually save a screenshot of presets I really like.
Yeah but this isn’t hardware and it is actually supposed to work. Korg doesn’t get a pass because their software bug imitates the limited functionality of the actual hardware. A bug is a bug.
I’d have to save 20 plus screenshots of IM1 to get the full information from every little screen in there I mean cmon let’s be real
And now that I’m thinking about it, it wouldn’t even matter because Darwin doesn’t allow full access to the synth controls anyways so....
Wait wtf I just tried again and now it’s working to get user presets in Darwin. Tried a week ago and nothing. Maybe they fixed it in the recent update and didn’t note it in the update notes. Well awesome! Guess I should stop talking shit lol
Edit: ok so you have to save in the Library cards and it can’t be a “combi” patch
I was gonna reply to your earlier post. Saving to ‘Library’ cards has always worked for me.
They work fine for me? I have Gadget’s knob gesture set to ‘Linear’. For fine tuning I use the ‘flick’ gesture.
The flick gesture might be the one Gadget feature I wish all apps had. Sure there’s plenty of apps that have very good knob turning, but i find the flick gesture to honestly be a good tool to hone my ears. Being able to quickly differentiate between minute differences in the sound and what not.
Strange.. once I start messing with the gesture settings, the knob behavior is fixed, even switched back to the old setting. Weird. But fixed I guess, whatever it was.
Another thing that annoys me is that the knobs won’t reset to 0 when you double tab on them, a handy feature a lot of apps do have.
Yeah, it's always been like that, annoying.
Do you have the Spectrum Synth bundle? Model D? Tal U No LX?
I can give you a heap of my patches if you like.
Appreciate the offer but the first 2 I’m not a huge fan of and I don’t have Tal. But thank you anyways!
Be interesting if the new Korg Midi Controller works with Gadget for iPad if the iPad version gets midi 2.0.
‘Keystage includes an expansion plate that can be attached at two different angles, making it ideal for tablets and other devices.’
MPE Gadget update on the way I’ll wager. I like the poly-aftertouch ratcheting. Nice.