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So I setup Cubasis and want to make good electronic Beats fast and that sound good

What is your go to? I’ve heard Drambo but I don’t see some good hats, kicks not snares. Is everyone spending time making his own presets or am I missing something?

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  • First of all, welcome to the AudioBus forums mate. Glad to have you.

    Second of all, Cubasis does come with some decent drums already, but if you're looking for great drums, you can't go wrong with any of the "Sounds of KSHMR" packs.

    https://www.dharmaworldwide.com/product/the-collection-sounds-of-kshmr-vol-1-3/

    https://www.dharmaworldwide.com/product/sounds-of-kshmr-vol-4/

    Really great punchy drums and effects, essential for producing many electronic beats genres, whether that be Hip-Hop, Trap, Dubstep, etc. The drums used in this track are all from "Sounds of KSHMR" packs.

  • By the way, what genre(s) are you looking to produce? :)

  • Future Bass, Deep House, Minimal Techno. Do you think the packs would suit me? Thanks for welcome, I really like the helpfulness of the community here!!!

  • @galfaroth said:
    Future Bass, Deep House, Minimal Techno. Do you think the packs would suit me? Thanks for welcome, I really like the helpfulness of the community here!!!

    Nice genres! The packs definitely come with everything you could possibly need for those genres. I'll craft some examples in a bit of each genre. 🙂

  • @galfaroth said:
    Future Bass, Deep House, Minimal Techno. Do you think the packs would suit me? Thanks for welcome, I really like the helpfulness of the community here!!!

    It sounds like what you really want isFL Stufio Mobile.

  • @Telstar5 said:

    @galfaroth said:
    Future Bass, Deep House, Minimal Techno. Do you think the packs would suit me? Thanks for welcome, I really like the helpfulness of the community here!!!

    It sounds like what you really want isFL Stufio Mobile.

    NS2 would be better suited for Electronic Beat genres such as those. Obsidian is a really versatile synth, and the IAP packs are hard to top. :) And you can use AUv3 effects in NS2, unlike FLSM.

    However, one advantage FLSM has over NS2 is the fact FLSM does indeed have Audio Tracks whereas NS2 does not. However, you can record vocals in Cubasis 3 and port over to NS2's Slate (which is the drum pads) to trigger said audio.

  • I don’t hear that the NS2 sound packs have the same huge drums that fL does

  • @Telstar5 said:
    I don’t hear that the NS2 sound packs have the same huge drums that fL does

    However, that's where the "Sounds of KSHMR" packs come into play.

  • From the post title it seems like you might get a head-start with Future Drummer. It has a ton of kits and patterns. It also has the ability to dial in a certain amount of randomness and fills.

    Check out videos first though, to see if it’s up your alley.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/future-drummer/id1206804871

  • So FL studio, NanoStudio2, Future Drummer: which would allow me to mock good sounding drum loop and allow to craft the sound of each instrument, and possibly suggest some ideas? Which would have risers, fxes, crashes that sound really deep and quality?

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  • Plus you can import your own samples in Hammerhead/Playbeat 3 as well and use the randomization options.
    I use Gadget for rhythm and usually layer sounds/samples, get ‘m through fx, resample. It’s more fun to cook up something than just grap pre-made stuff.

  • So hammerhead or gadget :D ?

  • @ehehehe said:
    Get ChowKick, Hammerhead, Drum Computer or Playbeat 3 for the beats and use them in Cubasis. FLSM, NS2 and sound packs (lol) are terrible advice unless you only want to arrange loops.

    The sample packs I mentioned do have loops but also one shots. You'd know that if you weren't so stuck up and would bother to inform yourself. Think our advice is funny? Sod off to the KVR forums where your sort belong. By "your sort", I'm talking about every hoity-toity billy no mates musician that sees it fit to put down and laugh at others.

  • @galfaroth said:
    So hammerhead or gadget :D ?

    Sure, or the tips @jwmmakerofmusic gave you, it’s all good stuff, there are many roads that lead to Rome. Find your workflow. Ruismaker is cool too, it has a cool onboard sequencer as well :)

  • He most definitely should check playbeat 3 and some of the awesome packs they give for for free (except warped)

    https://audiomodern.com/playbeat-packs/

    Minimal, house all covered ;)

  • Oh if you are in the beats you give Drumcomputer a spin (I think it’s downloadable for free but without any goodies but you can check out the synth engine. Really great synth drummer)

  • @galfaroth the problem with seeking advice here is every reply will have a different answer! I suggest you watch demos/tutorials on YouTube to see what looks like it will apply to what you want to do. Keep it simple to start out.

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    Auxy Studio for immediate gratification without much thought or effort. Beats come out sounding already mastered, and tons of drum samples, risers, etc. only downside is you gotta program in the piano roll. Easy automation and song building too.

  • @Slush said:

    @galfaroth said:
    So hammerhead or gadget :D ?

    Sure, or the tips @jwmmakerofmusic gave you, it’s all good stuff, there are many roads that lead to Rome. Find your workflow. Ruismaker is cool too, it has a cool onboard sequencer as well :)

    As well as consider @Telstar5 's suggestion too. I may not necessarily agree, but then again FLSM does have some pretty sweet synths and built-in effects. It depends on your workflow, and as @anickt mentioned, check out some videos on Youtube. @MobileMusicPro , @jakoB_haQ , @sfm (SoundForMore), @thesoundtestroom are but a few youtubers I'd highly recommend you check out. (If I forgot to shout you out, my bad.)

    @db909 said:
    Auxy Studio for immediate gratification without much thought or effort. Beats come out sounding already mastered, and tons of drum samples, risers, etc. only downside is you gotta program in the piano roll. Easy automation and song building too.

    This too! But be warned that Auxy Studio is a $6/month subscription, but as I use it on the go quite often as a sketchpad, I'm happy to add that to my monthly expenses. One of the rare subscription apps I subscribe to. :)

  • @anickt said:
    @galfaroth the problem with seeking advice here is every reply will have a different answer! I suggest you watch demos/tutorials on YouTube to see what looks like it will apply to what you want to do. Keep it simple to start out.

    BOOM!!! Mic drop

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    Mobile music Pro really has some really great sound packs, some free, some for sale . But based on your query , I’d go listen to some YouTube videos made w FLS mobile . Can’t go wrong either way.

  • @Telstar5 said:
    Mobile music Pro really has so e really great sound packs, so e free, some for sale . But based on your query , I’d go listen to some YouTube videos made w FLS mobile

    Appreciate the shoutout! :)

  • @ehehehe said:
    Get ChowKick, Hammerhead, Drum Computer or Playbeat 3 for the beats and use them in Cubasis. FLSM, NS2 and sound packs (lol) are terrible advice unless you only want to arrange loops. All the apps I mentioned allows you more specialized drum options that works with what you have. Get a good synth and reverb, and you are ready to go.

    Yeah those are good but there is nothing wrong with NS2, some great sounds in there.

    @galfaroth said:
    What is your go to? I’ve heard Drambo but I don’t see some good hats, kicks not snares. Is everyone spending time making his own presets or am I missing something?

    Easy to import samples into Drambo. There is no shortage of great free drum sounds out there.

    The other option is GarageBand has a lot of good drum sounds & Loops. I often will just start with drums in there and fuck around on my hardware synths to get an idea going. Then just mangle the exported drums in Drambo.

  • @galfaroth

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/scivdwjfomf0x4i/100222a-trimmed.wav?dl=0

    This is an example of what NS2 can do and what some of the samples sound like in the "Sounds of KSHMR" packs. No prerecorded loops were used in any of these examples. Most of melodic sounds you hear came from Obsidian, NS2's built-in synth, except the piano in the "Deep/Future House" section, which was Beathawk, and the Acid Bass in the "Minimal Techno" section, which is BramBos Troublemaker. And yes, NS2 has tempo/bpm automation.

    The first 16 bars were supposed to be "Deep House", but it sounds more like "Future House". 😆 That isn't NS2's fault though. That's my bad.

    Okay, the next 18 bars were supposed to be "Minimal Techno", but not sure if I hit the mark. The trick with minimal techno is to use polymeters, polyrhythms, etc. What you hear repeats, but at various intervals. Like for instance, the hats repeat once every 1 bar, 1 beat. The clap hits on the second and fourth beats of each bar, except every third bar there's an extra clap. The lead repeats once every two bars, one beat.

    For the final set of 16 bars, yep, we speed up to Future Bass for the finish.

    And hopefully mate this helps you understand what is possible with NS2. :)


    Of course as previously mentioned, NS2 lacks audio tracks. But the built-in drum module called Slate plays back long audio. Technically you could record audio in NS2 via Slate, but it's better to record audio in Cubasis 3 and clean up any background noise with the Brusfri AUv3. Cheers. :)

  • @anickt said:
    @galfaroth the problem with seeking advice here is every reply will have a different answer! I suggest you watch demos/tutorials on YouTube to see what looks like it will apply to what you want to do. Keep it simple to start out.

    +100%. It would also be a good idea to try all the apps that have “free intro” versions, such as Gadget 2 Le and Drumcomputer. You can try those with your own hands.

  • I'd say just use the drums in Cubasis. It's faster and cheaper than digging through randoms sample packs. If mostly electronic music is your thing, I'd just grab the built-in drum machines in Cubasis and use the synth/instrument presets.

  • One thing to consider is that Hammerhead has lots of samples, and you can import your own, and it has drum synthesis, so you can create your own sounds. AND it has a cool sequencer with randomization options.. This goes for Playbeat 3 as well, except it has no drum synthesis, but many great packs to d/l.

  • Another really good one, especially if you shape and design your own drums is FAC Drumkit.
    That has two synth engines and a sample engine.
    Plus loads of free drumkits built in and more you can get for free from patchstorage.
    And it’s an AUv3 so you can use it anywhere.

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