Liteweight drum sample player - what do you use?

oat_phipps

Sitala is far and away the best choice for sample drums. Don’t let anyone tell you differently because they’re used to something else already, or just like naming ither options because they haven’t been said yet. Since you aren’t attuned to those alternate recs like they are, Sitala is going to give you the best and simplest experience. No competition

Poppadocrock

@ipadbeatmaking said:

@Poppadocrock said:

@ipadbeatmaking said:

@Poppadocrock said:

@ipadbeatmaking said:
With Digistix 2, is there any way to quickly make kits or a converter of some sort like we have with Sitala?

There is the app samplecrate which could help, but other then that I think the best way might be drag and drop, in slide over which is what I do. I create a folder in audioshare with only the Samples I want to put in the kit, open DS2 in standalone, then pull up files in slide over mode and drag and drop samples one at a time. Then save the kit. It’s not as quick but it’s not that bad either.

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So digistix 2 responds to the 16 sample crate of samplecrate? Nice.

I think so, actually not 100% sure, sorry, I have sample crate and I fumbled with it a few times when released but gave up, then developer made a few updates and I keep forgetting to use it. Same situation as @auxmux with DS2 as mentioned above, lol. Not always does it slip my mind, it’s in a folder so I don’t always see it, plus I haven’t built as many kits since it was released, I built way more before it was out, I need to start mixing in kit making sessions again. That’s typically how I like to do it.

I’ll try it out thanks 🙏

Update, ohh directly from Ableton kits. I’ve barely used Abelton lite, I barely use desktop at all.
I wonder about kits from other apps/software like Maschine Kits, or other software/apps?

Yes, if you use Kitmaker and go Maschine > Ableton Rack .adg then use SitalaConverter and go Ableton Rack .adg > Sitala

Dope. Thanks.

Poppadocrock

Just found these free sitala kits site is not secure but ran it through virustotal and came out ok, so… enjoy

http://sitala.bplaced.net/

Poppadocrock

U know what, I’ve downloaded many ableton presets and kits over the years I bet lots of them might work.

Poppadocrock

@oat_phipps said:
Sitala is far and away the best choice for sample drums. Don’t let anyone tell you differently because they’re used to something else already, or just like naming ither options because they haven’t been said yet. Since you aren’t attuned to those alternate recs like they are, Sitala is going to give you the best and simplest experience. No competition

Yea we definitely all agreed on that. Maybe I’m taking this personally when I shouldn’t be, but no one named other options just to name them, i mentioned 2 other apps for different reasons. I also clearly mentioned I was very familiar with using 4P software as a disclaimer. I really like sitala, it’s definitely top notch, and in my opinion is the best answer to the original question… however if you are looking to use multi-velocity samples, round robin, and a few other features that sitala does not have I’d say Digistix 2 for those situations. Anyways yes Sitala is great.

Poppadocrock

@wim said:

@Poppadocrock said:
Well at first I was curious if that existed or there was something similar out there? Then I was thinking I wonder how difficult it would be to make a script that either performed a mutate like feature to the midi going through it, or a script with a sequencer built in with a mutate or mutate-like function ?

You're not bugging me at all, but we probably shouldn't sidetrack the thread too much.

Brambos apps have two kinds of mutate. One just adds a probability of reversing the action of a step. For instance, if the step has no note, introducing a probability that it will play, or if it has a note that it won't play. That one is easy.

Acting on midi passing through - To produce the mutate where the sequence skips to a random step then back to its proper sequence would require knowing what the sequence is in advance. So, the script would need to listen to a full cycle of the sequence, then act on it in the following passes. That could be an interesting exercise I guess. I don't think it would be massively complicated either.

Interesting idea.

True.

I do like the sound of that, very interesting indeed, but it definitely sounds complex on a few levels, and way over my head in terms of Mozaic coding. Thanks for the info.

Slush

@Poppadocrock said:
@Slush I almost forgot that the really cool drum or note sequencer Octachron has a mutate feature similar to hammerhead, Rozetta suite, noir, etc…

Octachron, good tip, will look into it.

Poppadocrock

@Slush said:

@Poppadocrock said:
@Slush I almost forgot that the really cool drum or note sequencer Octachron has a mutate feature similar to hammerhead, Rozetta suite, noir, etc…

Octachron, good tip, will look into it.

I made a minor mistake, I’m on the beta of octachron, and forgot. That feature will be available in the app soon.

ipadbeatmaking

@Poppadocrock said:

@Slush said:

@Poppadocrock said:
@Slush I almost forgot that the really cool drum or note sequencer Octachron has a mutate feature similar to hammerhead, Rozetta suite, noir, etc…

Octachron, good tip, will look into it.

I made a minor mistake, I’m on the beta of octachron, and forgot. That feature will be available in the app soon.

What’s your thoughts on Octachron vs Polybeat? I got em both but leaned towards Polybeat since I wanted 16 drum sample compatibility

Poppadocrock

@ipadbeatmaking said:

@Poppadocrock said:

@Slush said:

@Poppadocrock said:
@Slush I almost forgot that the really cool drum or note sequencer Octachron has a mutate feature similar to hammerhead, Rozetta suite, noir, etc…

Octachron, good tip, will look into it.

I made a minor mistake, I’m on the beta of octachron, and forgot. That feature will be available in the app soon.

What’s your thoughts on Octachron vs Polybeat? I got em both but leaned towards Polybeat since I wanted 16 drum sample compatibility

Well once the octachron update comes out, (random, randomization offset, and mutation are 3 really cool features soon to be added) and I’m not sure when that will be, I think I might prefer that as a sequencer, if you disregard the amount of lanes aspect . However the 16 lanes of polybeat make it great for drum apps with 16 pads. I have both and use both, but I’ve been using octachron more since I was invited to join the beta 2 months ago. I use 2 instances if I need 16 pads, or set the midi to play only the 8 pads I want to use, which is pretty Easy to do. It’s a tough call. If octachron had 16 lanes it would be the winner, at least for me. Polybeat is nice too though. I think there is room for both really. With Black Friday and all the holidays coming up you might be able to get both or the one you don’t have at a discount.

Octa can set a scale and be a note sequencer or even be a cc sequencer.

auxmux

@Poppadocrock Is there a way to multi-import samples into Digistix? Doesn't seem to be working for me.

Poppadocrock

@auxmux said:
@Poppadocrock Is there a way to multi-import samples into Digistix? Doesn't seem to be working for me.

I’m not sure. I haven’t uncovered a way to do that yet, I’ve only tried a few times though…

Poppadocrock

@Poppadocrock said:

@auxmux said:
@Poppadocrock Is there a way to multi-import samples into Digistix? Doesn't seem to be working for me.

I’m not sure. I haven’t uncovered a way to do that yet, I’ve only tried a few times though…

Not sure if this helps.

Poppadocrock

I’ve never tried samplecrate with Digistix 2, that might do it, but not sure.

I’m not sure you can. But there are some really cool features highlighted in that video. I wish you could do that but haven’t found a way to yet…

That’s one reason I like having both, sitala is quick and easy, and Digistix is deeper, with velocity layers and all kinds of features.

Poppadocrock

Just had a thought but haven’t tried it yet. In samplecrate if you export a sample chain you can them possibly slice to pads in ds2, haven’t tried but theoretically should work.

MonkeyDrummer

@oat_phipps said:
Sitala is far and away the best choice for sample drums. Don’t let anyone tell you differently because they’re used to something else already, or just like naming ither options because they haven’t been said yet. Since you aren’t attuned to those alternate recs like they are, Sitala is going to give you the best and simplest experience. No competition

Dear lord! You ain’t kidding… the file browsing/pad assigning is the slickest I’ve ever seen!