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Sequencing a hybrid setup

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  • @tahiche said:

    @rs2000 said:
    You've got a lot of the same hardware gear as I do @PeteSasqwax 😮
    I do own a class compliant 8-channel audio i/o interface though which I find is an essential component for what you have in mind.

    If I had to, I would definitely use LK as the main sequencer because of its proper Launchpad support, running inside Drambo because it's more flexible with MIDI clock than AUM and the huge Lego toolbox is there whenever and wherever I need it, be it for audio or MIDI processing.

    As for syncing Samplr, although it can slave to MIDI clock, I would really prefer Ableton Link because only that allows you to join a running session. Which means that you'll need a LINK <> MIDI clock translator like "MIDI LINK Sync" for example.

    I usually have multiple MIDI devices connected via Bluetooth. (Yamaha MD-BT01, UD-BT01, Quicco mi.1, other iDevices advertising BT MIDI)

    Interesting. What’s your setup like with LK inside Drambo?. Do you have one LK instance triggering Drambo tracks?. Midi channels?.

    Exactly, one instance driving up to 16 MIDI channels into MIDI channel filters on each track so I can quickly change each track's receive channel, use more than 1 track to receive on the same ch if I want etc.
    Here's my setup. Each MIDI channel selector is connected to the "LK 1" output here, of course you're free to choose your own..

  • The newest iteration of my system is like this:
    Modular synth + Matriarch goes into iPad (on 14 audio channels) via ES-9 module. AUM is the mixer and home for drums, bass and various synths. The both hardware and soft instruments are sequenced by Hermod. And there is a Faderfox EC4 that gives me hands-on knobs for the mix and for whatever synths in AUM that I need controls for.
    Most of my midi is by USB: The iPad connects to a hub so everything connects to that (and AUM is damn good at handling midi distribution, filtering and what-not).
    I used to have all the soundsources be hardware, but all the more “normal” sounds have now shifted to the iPad and left the modular to what is it best at: Being weird. 😊

  • @LarsDaniel said:
    The newest iteration of my system is like this:
    Modular synth + Matriarch goes into iPad (on 14 audio channels) via ES-9 module.

    The ES-9 seems like such an obvious, excellent call when it comes to modular. I always thought it made a lot of sense to mix virtual with physical modules, having the utilities and more basic functions covered virtually and leaving the out there stuff to the modular, but a lot of people seem horrified by the suggestion.

  • @PeteSasqwax said:

    @LarsDaniel said:
    The newest iteration of my system is like this:
    Modular synth + Matriarch goes into iPad (on 14 audio channels) via ES-9 module.

    The ES-9 seems like such an obvious, excellent call when it comes to modular. I always thought it made a lot of sense to mix virtual with physical modules, having the utilities and more basic functions covered virtually and leaving the out there stuff to the modular, but a lot of people seem horrified by the suggestion.

    Hmmm, there must be quite a number of people doing exactly that. I remember a lively discussion of ES-8 and ES-9 owners on the beepstreet forum during an earlier beta phase, asking for multichannel support, CV scaling and input/output routing in Drambo and although I can't confirm it myself, it seems like it's working well enough now.

  • @rs2000 said:

    @PeteSasqwax said:

    @LarsDaniel said:
    The newest iteration of my system is like this:
    Modular synth + Matriarch goes into iPad (on 14 audio channels) via ES-9 module.

    The ES-9 seems like such an obvious, excellent call when it comes to modular. I always thought it made a lot of sense to mix virtual with physical modules, having the utilities and more basic functions covered virtually and leaving the out there stuff to the modular, but a lot of people seem horrified by the suggestion.

    Hmmm, there must be quite a number of people doing exactly that. I remember a lively discussion of ES-8 and ES-9 owners on the beepstreet forum during an earlier beta phase, asking for multichannel support, CV scaling and input/output routing in Drambo and although I can't confirm it myself, it seems like it's working well enough now.

    It works well, I can’t remember exactly what I had to do with regards to scaling. That’s using a Motu 16A

  • edited October 2022

    @PeteSasqwax said:

    @LarsDaniel said:
    The newest iteration of my system is like this:
    Modular synth + Matriarch goes into iPad (on 14 audio channels) via ES-9 module.

    The ES-9 seems like such an obvious, excellent call when it comes to modular. I always thought it made a lot of sense to mix virtual with physical modules, having the utilities and more basic functions covered virtually and leaving the out there stuff to the modular, but a lot of people seem horrified by the suggestion.

    It's perfect. A lot of people are modular purists and want to do everything in modular. I love my ES-9 and also have ES-8. Having virtual modules for logic, CV, audio, etc via miRack and VCV is absolutely amazing.

  • Yeah, coming from a non-modular perspective it just seemed like an excellent way to expand your rack without impacting your bank balance. What's not to like? But I also appreciate that some people (probably those who don't post on a forum dedicated to mobile, touch screen based music making) don't like to work with screens/computers

  • .> @PeteSasqwax said:

    Yeah, coming from a non-modular perspective it just seemed like an excellent way to expand your rack without impacting your bank balance. What's not to like? But I also appreciate that some people (probably those who don't post on a forum dedicated to mobile, touch screen based music making) don't like to work with screens/computers

    Actually, I got the ES-9 so I could move mixing from the modular to AUM, with the added benefit of multitracking. So with a bix full of knobs (Faderfox EC4) I had minimal touchscreen interaction. Very awesome like that. But moving sequencing out of the modular, from Hermod to Hapax, I got tempted to try out having velocity responsive drums and bass from the iPad. And that rocks. And then polysynths. So now it is very hybrid, with the added advantage, that in a pinch I can go all Hapax+AUM and be super portable.

  • @LarsDaniel said:
    .> @PeteSasqwax said:

    Yeah, coming from a non-modular perspective it just seemed like an excellent way to expand your rack without impacting your bank balance. What's not to like? But I also appreciate that some people (probably those who don't post on a forum dedicated to mobile, touch screen based music making) don't like to work with screens/computers

    Actually, I got the ES-9 so I could move mixing from the modular to AUM, with the added benefit of multitracking. So with a bix full of knobs (Faderfox EC4) I had minimal touchscreen interaction. Very awesome like that. But moving sequencing out of the modular, from Hermod to Hapax, I got tempted to try out having velocity responsive drums and bass from the iPad. And that rocks. And then polysynths. So now it is very hybrid, with the added advantage, that in a pinch I can go all Hapax+AUM and be super portable.

    This is something I've been puzzling for a while - in a hybrid system, which part is best to live where?
    Anyway, now you made me look into the Hapax - damn, this seems to answer all of my requirements in 1 box. The idea of Hapax plus iPad, midi controller and 1 or 2 special pieces of hardware is a wonderful one I think.

  • One quick question – for live, does anyone concern themselves with stereo? Is monaural acceptable?

  • @LarsDaniel said:
    So with a bix full of knobs (Faderfox EC4) I had minimal touchscreen interaction. Very awesome like that.

    This is the step I'm currently at when working solely in the iPad. Attaching a controller so that I can play the mixing desk in a "studio as instrument" style brings me so much enjoyment and that's what I'd like to take ever further with the hybrid setup

    @Jimantronic said:
    This is something I've been puzzling for a while - in a hybrid system, which part is best to live where?

    Yes, this is a key conundrum! Does the recording happen in the desktop or in AUM and then the stems go to the desktop for post processing? I could sequence with Ableton... or I could do it within AUM, essentially recreating a type of Ableton setup there. Maybe using the Beatstep with Live via the Ultim4l script and contrasting it with a bespoke Beatstep setup on the iPad will make the decision

    Still not sure about where to record though

  • Record in AUM.

  • @u0421793 said:
    One quick question – for live, does anyone concern themselves with stereo? Is monaural acceptable?

    Personally I tend to view it like I used to view guitar pedals: if I need stereo I'll add stereo effects

  • @auxmux said:
    Record in AUM.

    It's definitely what I'm leaning towards. AUM just has much more intuitive routing than anything else I've come across.

  • @PeteSasqwax said:

    @auxmux said:
    Record in AUM.

    It's definitely what I'm leaning towards. AUM just has much more intuitive routing than anything else I've come across.

    It definitely is so intuitive. If you're using an iPad as brains, it's much easier just use AUM as a hub for audio and midi. Record there and export for DAW action later.

  • @PeteSasqwax said:

    @u0421793 said:
    One quick question – for live, does anyone concern themselves with stereo? Is monaural acceptable?

    Personally I tend to view it like I used to view guitar pedals: if I need stereo I'll add stereo effects

    Yeah same, euro is mostly mono but everything gets mixed in stereo once fx or multitracking happens.

  • I seem to have ordered a Hapax.... shipping in November they say.

    If I wanted to recreate the functionality in IOS from my Deluge of loading a selection of samples in to use as a drum kit and being able to slice them up and manipulate them a bit, do you think Koala Sampler is my best bet?

  • @Jimantronic said:
    Yup, that should work fine on any Keystep/Beatstep device AFAIK

    As a word of caution - I tried using my KeyStep for MIDI to CV and found the timing was shockingly bad!

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