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A possible reason not to install iOS 8 on older devices.

I know that correlation doesn't imply causation, but here's a possible reason to be wary of iOS 8:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2709502/Does-Apple-deliberately-slow-old-models-new-release-Searches-iPhone-slow-spike-ahead-launches.html

It's best to hold off and see how iOS fares on older devices since once you commit to the upgrade there's usually no turning back.

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  • edited July 2014

    That's a lot of bullshit, sorry.
    search trends prove nothing! But it makes a great headline. Lol, and the guy is writing for the science department - should be fired.

  • Yeah, that makes sense. I saw that over at discchord

  • edited July 2014

    Yeah and the earth is a flat disc because that's what a lot of ppl typed into Google - fools!
    this kind of pseudo science makes me want to throw up

  • To be fair, at the end of the articles it does address some of the possible issues which may explain the research results other than Apple slowing older devices down. Nevertheless, the sensationalism of suggesting Apple trying to slow down older devices to make sales was the hook for the article.

    I have no doubt that iOS devices have a life cycle of 2-3 years before they stop working well with current software. It seems to be almost like a lease model where your iOS device needs to be traded in or sold if you want to have the functionality of current software. At this point the devices operate much longer than their period of being up to date.

    I think their buy back program and trying to stretch the viable life of older devices in the new iOS versions is an attempt by Apple to lessen the impact of rapid technology growth for people who aren't willing or able to go with the latest and greatest hardware. It might also explain why Apple has been dragging their feet with respect to increasing the ram as that would mean a radical difference in the functionality of newer versus older devices.

    This seems to be the case for other fast evolving technology too.

  • edited July 2014

    Let's look @ the facts, there isn't any kind of trustable data, no benchmarks, no nothing. Ppl believe their os is faster or slower because they made the animations faster or slower and then did a google search, lol. Discussing about this is completely ridiculous. Just because the New York Times wrote about it, doesn't make it one bit closer to the truth, sorry to destroy your illusions. Well, no I am not ;)

  • Apple scaremongers are some of the most annoying people on the internet...

  • edited July 2014

    @CalCutta said:

    Apple scaremongers are some of the most annoying people on the internet...

    With Apple apologists running a close second.

    (Not that I put any stock into this pseudo-scientific study....)

  • edited July 2014

    I've never seen it go any other way than this: People who don't like what Apple represents (for whatever reason) decide to spread hearsay or unsupported theories to try to get some kind of negative influence. People who like Apple products then either ignore them, or will respond trying to bring some reason to the conversation.

    I won't say it doesn't happen, but the notion of Apple "apologists" going around unprovoked to be obnoxious, I think is overblown (to put it mildly).

  • Oh I see- Apple fans ALWAYS have the moral high ground....

  • @Zymos said:

    Oh I see- Apple fans ALWAYS have the moral high ground....

    Did you decide to not read, or ignore the following in my previous post?

    "I won't say it doesn't happen, but the notion of Apple "apologists" going around unprovoked to be obnoxious, I think is overblown (to put it mildly)."

    Get off your hyperbole.

  • Also, to put it out there, you haven't even tried explaining what you consider an "Apple apologist" to be.

  • And to whoever is handing out all the -1's in this thread...lol

  • @CalCutta said:

    Also, to put it out there, you haven't even tried explaining what you consider an "Apple apologist" to be.

    Now you are just pretending to be obtuse.
    Did you bother to define a term as obvious as "Apple scaremongers"? Well neither would I.

    You certainly understood what I meant well enough to get defensive about it.

  • God, it's hot in hear, or is it me?

    Older devices are bound to be strained by new os but I wouldn't make a conspiracy out of it. I'm still using 2007 mbp running maverick and all is cool. Progress has always been a best mate of absolence that's just how it works, especially with a new devce/os coming out every year. I find it ridiculous that they found it doesn't affect Google.

  • Big data is a lot of junk ;)

  • Hey you guys, family site, who is it with all the big junk?

  • @supadom said:

    2007 mbp running maverick and all is cool.

    same here! in fact things got way cooler (fast) when I installed mavericks.

    I'm not saying Google is lying...

    just my personal experience... with an unrelated product by the same company ;-b

  • edited July 2014

    All this big data collection is like reading the bible, u can interpret it anyway you want to.
    Lol, google can't figure out if I am male or female ;)
    Have a happy guessing with big data. ;)

  • Big data might be interpreted in lots of different ways, but so can most statistics. That doesn't make either useless. Just not something you should invest too much in. And as far as older machines becoming obsolete...that's not so much a conspiracy as a fact of life for any gadget, right? I wouldn't' be surprised to learn that Apple doesn't worry about older hardware when they're designing their new features (at least at first), but again, not a conspiracy as much as just common sense business practice to sustain innovation.

  • @Zymos said:

    @CalCutta said:

    Also, to put it out there, you haven't even tried explaining what you consider an "Apple apologist" to be.

    Now you are just pretending to be obtuse.
    Did you bother to define a term as obvious as "Apple scaremongers"? Well neither would I.

    You certainly understood what I meant well enough to get defensive about it.

    Once again, it's in the same post of which you misconstrued. Let me quote from it one more time:

    "People who don't like what Apple represents (for whatever reason) decide to spread hearsay or unsupported theories to try to get some kind of negative influence."

    Next time I'll be sure to put it in a Miriam-Webster type format so it's more clear.

  • If I eat one sandwich and you not, stadistics say you ate a half, so you can't complaint to be hungry.

    Data are data, but be another thing is their interpretation.

  • I realised some time ago that I would end up "freezing" my iPad 2 at a certain IOS version. I may have to stop buying new apps and updating old ones, but it won't become obsolete until I stop using it. I may then buy whatever device is current, but it depends on what that is and what it can do. There are always apps that stop working with a major IOS update anyway.

  • Don't forget iPhone4 was slower with iOS 7.0, but improved the speed with the updates.

  • edited July 2014

    @lala said:

    Big data is a lot of junk ;)

    Tell that to Nate Silver.

    Just because some people vapidly sell 'big data' as the answer to everything or some people farm what they want out of 'big data' to tell sensationalist BS click bait stories doesn't mean there isn't value to be found in large data sets.

  • @PaulB said:

    I realised some time ago that I would end up "freezing" my iPad 2 at a certain IOS version. I may have to stop buying new apps and updating old ones, but it won't become obsolete until I stop using it. I may then buy whatever device is current, but it depends on what that is and what it can do. There are always apps that stop working with a major IOS update anyway.

    +1 Exactly.

    Along with two shiny new things, I have an iPad OLD and it only runs a few of apps I like, but I'm still writing love poems on it....

  • After the release of any ios and without update you can notice that some ipad fail more for strange reasons, and i read about the backdoors, well thats weird.
    But my ipad 2 works better with ios7 than ios6

  • edited July 2014

    I still don't understand where the mystery here is supposed to be, lol.
    This is a new and evolving platform, new devices get the new os first, os is later optimized for older devices.
    No mystery and no need to cry.

    I still have an old iBook from 15 years ago. It still just works.

  • @lala said:

    I still don't understand where the mystery here is supposed to be, lol.
    This is a new and evolving platform, new devices get the new os first, os is later optimized for older devices.
    No mystery and no need to cry.

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    Totally agree and that is not even the principal reason for dont install the new iOS any version

  • edited July 2014

    Oh,I am not that shy about new oses.
    On the MacBook I will wait a while because it's my working maschine.
    But for the ipad - hell, apple give me ios 8 now!
    Can't wait, new touch fun and file pushing arounds :)
    This will cure a lot of ills

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