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Grumpy man hates modular. I think he has a point though…

Or maybe I’m just jealous.

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  • Modular is like a cross between people who collect china dolls and model railroaders.

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    Wow he really doesn’t like modular huh “I can do that on my sequential PRo 3” “oh they’re going to have to take the wires out and do it again!)

    This is like an black pill/red pill content but for modular instead of women

  • @taeo said:
    Wow he really doesn’t like modular huh “I can do that on my sequential PRo 3” “oh they’re going to have to take the wires out and do it again!)

    This is like an black pill/red pill content but for modular instead of women

    hahahahah it is a bit :D

  • I thought it was very funny... The presumably intentionally amateur 'editing' ie video of YT vids on his phone lol, made it all the more so

  • And what he can do with a Pro3 I can do it with a free VST.

  • Starts the video with “people don’t like me” and then proceeds to be as annoying as possible.

    People who intentionally draw the ire of others and wear it like a badge of honor are anal warts.

  • He makes a valid point about what a giant money sink modular is. (Even in software versions btw.) Not that it matters though. People should go with whatever floats their boat, even if it's playing hardware Lego. 👊

  • Big hardware Lego fan here… Pretty excellently describes the playfulness inherent in confronting a fistful of Jack leads with a wall of knobs…

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    Anybody can play. The note is only 20 percent. The attitude of the motherfucker who plays it is 80 percent

    Good music is good no matter what kind of music it is

    Bad music is what will ruin music, not the instruments musicians choose to play

    Miles Davis

    No matter what you use. You can make music with a pair of sticks or with a whole orchestra. It is what you make of the tools you have a t hand. Aphex twin does great things with modular synths. It doesn't have to be huge and you can do great things with an iPad too. If money is not an issue and you are into that great. I mean I'm a collector of apps which are cheaper other people collect modules to make music. The only difference here is money

  • @Svetlovska said:
    Big hardware Lego fan here… Pretty excellently describes the playfulness inherent in confronting a fistful of Jack leads with a wall of knobs…

    That's the spirit! 🎖️

  • @Gavinski said:
    I thought it was very funny... The presumably intentionally amateur 'editing' ie video of YT vids on his phone lol, made it all the more so

    hahaha yeah I love the shoddiness

    @OnfraySin said:
    And what he can do with a Pro3 I can do it with a free VST.

    yes!!!!

    @Simon said:
    Modular is like a cross between people who collect china dolls and model railroaders.

    ha!

    @ervin said:
    He makes a valid point about what a giant money sink modular is. (Even in software versions btw.)

    apart from Drambo!

  • At least he seems to like software modulars without wires running on an iPad 😅

  • @rs2000 said:
    At least he seems to like software modulars without wires running on an iPad 😅

    haha I just mentally substituted 'modular' for 'eurorack'... I think that's what he really means

  • @sevenape said:

    @rs2000 said:
    At least he seems to like software modulars without wires running on an iPad 😅

    haha I just mentally substituted 'modular' for 'eurorack'... I think that's what he really means

    There's some truth in it indeed - today, more people have the money to build huge modular systems but less people have the time to really make use if them.

  • @sevenape said:

    @ervin said:
    He makes a valid point about what a giant money sink modular is. (Even in software versions btw.)

    apart from Drambo!

    Fair. And in any case, even if it was not relevant, I should have anticipated the "But Drambo" comment. My rookie error 😁

  • Saw this video last night and never laughed so hard in a while. He makes some valid points I happen to agree with. I tried miRack a few months ago, it gave me a bloody headache, and what I churned out was boring rubbish. I tried a couple more times, realised, "What am I doing? I could simply recreate these same sounds with any of my softsynths," and deleted miRack from my iPad.

    Sure miRack and its irl hardware counterpart the Eurorack look cool, but is it at all practical to use one? To me it isn't, but ymmv. 🤷‍♂️

  • @ervin said:

    @sevenape said:

    @ervin said:
    He makes a valid point about what a giant money sink modular is. (Even in software versions btw.)

    apart from Drambo!

    Fair. And in any case, even if it was not relevant, I should have anticipated the "But Drambo" comment. My rookie error 😁

    It was obvious but relevant at least!

  • @OnfraySin said:
    And what he can do with a Pro3 I can do it with a free VST.

    Yes, you can do the same or similar notes (as the video shows in Rebirth versus Modular), but you cannot do the same sound. ;)
    As least I dunno any free VST that covers the range and definition of a (quality) analog synth.
    All modular sounds in the video were microphone captures, not direct outs from the machines.

    But that‘s a detail of (maybe) non awareness, forgiven.
    What really sucks is the „this is real music...“ statement about his buddy performing a song.

    A modular is just a (very) versatile tool chest, you pick what you consider appropriate for a certain idea. Not all engaged at once, just like you pick a drill for a hole and leave hammer and saw in the box.

  • What really sucks is the „this is real music...“ statement about his buddy performing a song.

    that was lame I agree, skipped through that.

  • Funny. In part my thoughts as well or at least the reason why I don’t use hardware modular systems.
    Still, he feels like someone with very narrow tolerance margins = narrow minded. Live and let live…and the track of his on the iPad was quite shit tbh….

    As for what’s music or not, if a repetitive groove on a djembe is music then any other repetitive electronic farts surely are too.

    Euro rack Modular is a hobby. It combines the ear skills, engineering skills and yes, the lights!

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    Funny timing, I am in the process of selling half of my modular gear. I just sold my second eurorack case yesterday.

    The most appealing aspects of modular for me are that it can be very creative, tactile, cerebral and fun. The big downside is that it's like collecting an endless number of very expensive ios synths. Many modules, in my case at least, went underused and I never learned them fully. And I always wanted additional modules.

    I'm hoping limiting myself to one full rack will enhance my creativity with the setup by allowing me to become intimately familiar with the modules I kept.

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    now watch this .. 4 hours generative patch on modular systems .. dude has more such amazing stuff on his changel.. listening literally a LOT his stuff daily

    also this guy made whole album where lot of stuff was made on modular - and it's musically really great album with huge sound

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    He’s right. I really hate modular…I think it’s a waste of time.

    And yet, I do LOVE DRAMBO. Because it simplifies what I see as technical jargon. Like, why do I need to connect an electronic panel board to make music. If I wanted to do that, I’d literally go work on a CNC/Robot, or another automated system and make them dance.

    Edit: Literally did that

  • Oh, that poor guy. For every Albini, there's a million sad-sack bearded Chicago dudes in their childhood bedrooms making videos about how lame all these hipsters are.

    My friend, this is not going to get you laid. You're going to need at least 600 subs — minimum.

  • @ExAsperis99 said:
    Oh, that poor guy. For every Albini, there's a million sad-sack bearded Chicago dudes in their childhood bedrooms making videos about how lame all these hipsters are.

    My friend, this is not going to get you laid. You're going to need at least 600 subs — minimum.

    Wait, since when is this a sub measuring contest? He has a valid point. Imagine if we lived in a world where us as individuals didn’t get a say in our government, our own individual choices and votes didn’t matter, and decisions were made based on who was the most popular person, or who has the most subscribers.

    Oh wait…that is the world we live in. Carry on.

  • I’m going to go play on my modular rather than worry about what other people are doing and making videos about it

  • @rs2000 said:

    @sevenape said:

    @rs2000 said:
    At least he seems to like software modulars without wires running on an iPad 😅

    haha I just mentally substituted 'modular' for 'eurorack'... I think that's what he really means

    There's some truth in it indeed - today, more people have the money to build huge modular systems but less people have the time to really make use if them.

    I find this is my perpetual issue. Money aside, there is only so much time. Mastering apps and making music takes time, and all the apps compete for it. I'm less worried about spending 10 bucks on an app than spending money on an app that just takes up more mind space. For example, everyone is gushing over Fluss right now, and I'm interested, but I know that if I get Fluss, that means another app will get less creative focus or I just buy it and not use it.

    Even the default to AUM as an instinct, pushing myself to use one standalone app has been very productive in some cases where I would have spent untold minutes comparing delays. Which, to be honest, is still fun, but not in a 'flow' sort of way.

  • Modular is a huge time and money suck, but it is just fun. I enjoy everything about it except the musical product. The building and patching and tinkering is a gas.

  • @sevenape said:

    @ervin said:

    @sevenape said:

    @ervin said:
    He makes a valid point about what a giant money sink modular is. (Even in software versions btw.)

    apart from Drambo!

    Fair. And in any case, even if it was not relevant, I should have anticipated the "But Drambo" comment. My rookie error 😁

    It was obvious but relevant at least!

    Absolutely, in this case. Drambo is the ultimate counter-argument to the "modular is always expensive" take.

    On an unrelated note, I was about to throw in the Drambo comment in another thread asking about replacement guitar necks, but then I though better of it. 🤓

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