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Why is Patterning so great

I would really like to switch to an auv3 drum machine but nothing sounds as good. Why??! Do I have to sample everything in Patterning? Why does it sound so much better than every existing app? Thanks for listening to my rant.

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  • Me too) 😹

  • @KMTGN said:
    Me too) 😹

    😂

  • yep, nothing like Patterning. Would pay 2 more times for AU

  • Definitely would buy again for an AUv3 version.

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  • @tja said:
    Do you need multiple instances of Patterning?

    I don’t know yet…

  • You can get multiple instances of patterning

    Run the iphone version along side the ipad version

    ;)

  • edited February 2023

    @tja said:
    Do you need multiple instances of Patterning?

    That’s easy to do with Patterning 1 and 2. Resizing UI while playing or controlling other things at the same time, state saving, hosting Patterning in Endlesss… lots of reasons actually

  • holy crap. just watched some videos of patterning. this thing looks amazing! not an au?? would be so sick to play with this thing in aum with other synths and what not.

    how are most people using it who work with AU’s? just sampling it? :/

  • @drewhino said:
    holy crap. just watched some videos of patterning. this thing looks amazing! not an au?? would be so sick to play with this thing in aum with other synths and what not.

    how are most people using it who work with AU’s? just sampling it? :/

    You can load it in AUM as an IAA and it supports multiple ports. I do this every now and then. Just no state saving, but for on the fly jamming, works great!

  • @drewhino said:
    holy crap. just watched some videos of patterning. this thing looks amazing! not an au?? would be so sick to play with this thing in aum with other synths and what not.

    how are most people using it who work with AU’s? just sampling it? :/

    It’s an IAA (inter-App Audio) app and you can load and run 1 copy in AUM. The gui will take over the screen and you will need to swipe up from the edge bottom to get back into AUM but you can start it from AUM’s transport by turning on Inter-App Audio sync or Ableton link. I tested with iPhone version demo…

  • For the question in the title… I think it’s breaking the 16-slot precision for a more loose arrangement of sounds similar to the brain-scrambling of a modern hip hop drum sequence that sounds a bit wonky but cool because it’s note so clock like. But is a machine that lays so far back it breaks your idea of how drums work. Patterning can make extra wonky beats by not using a right slot per pulse but more of a visual circular interface to add events.

    It also provides a great set of samples to sound more hip that an old drum machine.

  • I'd go so far as to say it's the best drum sequencer I've used. Intuitive and deep, and the depth is visible. FAC Drumkit+Patterning's sequencer would be ace.

    State saving in AUv3 would easily be worth the price of a new version.

  • @suboptimal said:
    I'd go so far as to say it's the best drum sequencer I've used. Intuitive and deep, and the depth is visible. FAC Drumkit+Patterning's sequencer would be ace.

    State saving in AUv3 would easily be worth the price of a new version.

    You could drive the midi from Patterning to FAC Drumkit... Worth a try :wink:
    Dang... We got some dedicated drum sequencer recently, but I guess if Ben made a sequencer AUv3, it could sell :lol:

  • Import one shot samples in 1 import keeping the total folder structure intact.
    As far as i know only patterning and gr16 can do that. Patterning is the best on so many levels. The master eq/fx section is also spectacular.

  • I dedicated an old iPad to Patterning 2.

    I would imagine it being kind of fiddly as an AU.

  • I stopped using it because it’s not AU.

  • Why is it that no auv3 drum machine sounds as good? Has anyone found one that was comparable? I’ve tried so many and it’s all night and day.

  • has anyone found the most streamlined way of sampling patterning for AUM use? i’m so down to use this thing but kinda wanna find the quickest workflow to get anything from there into AUM.

  • Why would you need to sample it? It can live in a channel in AUM and has multi outs.

  • @girlvsworld said:
    Why is it that no auv3 drum machine sounds as good? Has anyone found one that was comparable? I’ve tried so many and it’s all night and day.

    Anything that can load samples.

  • edited February 2023

    @girlvsworld said:
    Why is it that no auv3 drum machine sounds as good? Has anyone found one that was comparable? I’ve tried so many and it’s all night and day.

    I hear what you're saying--somehow they mostly sound THIN. DrumComputer? I LOVE IT but so thiiiiiin. Digistix? Same, really useful but somehow anemic (even after I went to the trouble to capture iSpark sounds). To be fair, I can get them sounding decent but it takes several extra apps. IMHO FAC Drumkit and Splat-to-Clat are the two AUv3's that actually sound as good to me without any augmentation. The fact that neither one allows me to sequence drums within the same app makes me shake my head and go back to using Patterning (or Groovebox or iSpark or even Attack).... :wink:

    @drewhino said:
    has anyone found the most streamlined way of sampling patterning for AUM use? i’m so down to use this thing but kinda wanna find the quickest workflow to get anything from there into AUM.

    I get that AUv3 is the future but given the current state of things this seems like a massive amount of work to circumvent something that works really well as is. Anyway, if you're committed, Digistix 2 and Koala Sampler both have great options to auto-capture the sounds.

  • Patterning is pretty great. What would be the main reasons to spend $15 on Patterning 2?

  • @ExAsperis99 said:
    Why would you need to sample it? It can live in a channel in AUM and has multi outs.

    i guess no state saving?

  • jason said:

    Music is math and all about harmonies (chords) and rhythmic patterns with repetitive character. Especially the drums part.

    Patterning is not so much about the sound (because tis is exchangeable), it’s the unique principle of polyrhytmic/polymetric of what it is building on.

    +1

  • jason said:
    I‘ve tried to explain my love for this in an other thread. I am glad repeating it here:

    • excellent samples and user repository
    • polymetric principle
    • polyrhythmic principle

    Music is math and all about harmonies (chords) and rhythmic patterns with repetitive character. Especially the drums part.
    If you are stuck, this often will instantly give you new perspectives. Patterning will generate such with excellence and often surprising results.

    There are loads of tools out, that use note randomizing or such. This is highly inefficient, because it most likely will create unmusical and unrhythmical crap this way. Because the simplest rules of musical laws of repetition are just ignored with this.

    It is not only applying specifically to electronic music, but these principles are general musical laws.

    In fact, if I use Patterning, I often end up with more ideas that I can work with.
    Useful ideas and I will have the next problem, which is:
    Which one of the patterns shall I use now?!

    Patterning is not so much about the sound (because tis is exchangeable), it’s the unique principle of polyrhytmic/polymetric of what it is building on.

    I haven’t tried using the app for coming up with non-drum rhythmic patterns but it is a very good idea. Do you load non-drum one-shots and sequence these or do you just get the rhythm going with percussive samples and then use that as the basis of a piece?

  • You can use patterning to play it’s internal samples or send midi NOTES (assignable per track) and play midi notes

    It absolutely can be melody generator
    Just point the midi notes at your fav synth or sound source

  • It just makes your brain work differently because it's a circle not a row in a rectangle. It also has excellent options for making unique patterns. The modulation options just lend themselves to varying things that matter in percussion like velocity and pitch. Then there's the rotate feature. Don't think there's anything else like that in another app.

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