In my opinion the iPad is the ultimate portable modular music making machine.

NeuM

@sevenape said:

@el_bo said:
I think there's something to be said for the modular aspect still being a bit too clunky, especially when it comes to the simplest of things e.g trying to move/share files between any/all apps. But overall, the power and flexibility is top-notch.

My biggest frustration (And this is of course not specific to iPads/iPhones) with it in terms of portability is that it becomes useless out in the sun. Where I live there're daily periods of sun all year round. Many times during the colder months, I've longed to go out and sit at the beach, enjoying the warm rays and making music. Just impossible to do This is why I've started to lust after an OP-X. Not even close to being able to afford one, and would no doubt become frustrated with it after a while. But the 'itch' is there.

Have you tried a pair of polaroid sunglasses? only problem is if you turn the screen 90 degrees it goes completely black.

That would be polarized, not Polaroid... unless they produce an instant photo?

el_bo

@sevenape said:

@el_bo said:

@sevenape said:

@el_bo said:
I think there's something to be said for the modular aspect still being a bit too clunky, especially when it comes to the simplest of things e.g trying to move/share files between any/all apps. But overall, the power and flexibility is top-notch.

My biggest frustration (And this is of course not specific to iPads/iPhones) with it in terms of portability is that it becomes useless out in the sun. Where I live there're daily periods of sun all year round. Many times during the colder months, I've longed to go out and sit at the beach, enjoying the warm rays and making music. Just impossible to do This is why I've started to lust after an OP-X. Not even close to being able to afford one, and would no doubt become frustrated with it after a while. But the 'itch' is there.

Have you tried a pair of polaroid sunglasses? only problem is if you turn the screen 90 degrees it goes completely black.

Ah, that's really interesting. Could be a solution. I do quite like looking at miRack in portrait mode, but using it in Landscape mode is no biggie. Can't think of other apps that I would have an issue with.

Have you tried them, yourself...out in 'the field'?

I haven’t I’m afraid, but I have some Polaroids here somewhere I’ll try tomorrow!

I'd really appreciate it! Thanks

el_bo

@NeuM said:

@sevenape said:

@el_bo said:
I think there's something to be said for the modular aspect still being a bit too clunky, especially when it comes to the simplest of things e.g trying to move/share files between any/all apps. But overall, the power and flexibility is top-notch.

My biggest frustration (And this is of course not specific to iPads/iPhones) with it in terms of portability is that it becomes useless out in the sun. Where I live there're daily periods of sun all year round. Many times during the colder months, I've longed to go out and sit at the beach, enjoying the warm rays and making music. Just impossible to do This is why I've started to lust after an OP-X. Not even close to being able to afford one, and would no doubt become frustrated with it after a while. But the 'itch' is there.

Have you tried a pair of polaroid sunglasses? only problem is if you turn the screen 90 degrees it goes completely black.

That would be polarized, not Polaroid... unless they produce an instant photo?

Actually, I went straight to the Polaroid site after sevenape's recommendation. Seems the original polarised glasses were indeed by Polaroid:

https://www.polaroideyewear.com/en/content/polarization

NeuM

@el_bo said:

@NeuM said:

@sevenape said:

@el_bo said:
I think there's something to be said for the modular aspect still being a bit too clunky, especially when it comes to the simplest of things e.g trying to move/share files between any/all apps. But overall, the power and flexibility is top-notch.

My biggest frustration (And this is of course not specific to iPads/iPhones) with it in terms of portability is that it becomes useless out in the sun. Where I live there're daily periods of sun all year round. Many times during the colder months, I've longed to go out and sit at the beach, enjoying the warm rays and making music. Just impossible to do This is why I've started to lust after an OP-X. Not even close to being able to afford one, and would no doubt become frustrated with it after a while. But the 'itch' is there.

Have you tried a pair of polaroid sunglasses? only problem is if you turn the screen 90 degrees it goes completely black.

That would be polarized, not Polaroid... unless they produce an instant photo?

Actually, I went straight to the Polaroid site after sevenape's recommendation. Seems the original polarised glasses were indeed by Polaroid:

https://www.polaroideyewear.com/en/content/polarization

Interesting. But they’re still not called Polaroid glasses.

el_bo

@NeuM said:

@el_bo said:

@NeuM said:

@sevenape said:

@el_bo said:
I think there's something to be said for the modular aspect still being a bit too clunky, especially when it comes to the simplest of things e.g trying to move/share files between any/all apps. But overall, the power and flexibility is top-notch.

My biggest frustration (And this is of course not specific to iPads/iPhones) with it in terms of portability is that it becomes useless out in the sun. Where I live there're daily periods of sun all year round. Many times during the colder months, I've longed to go out and sit at the beach, enjoying the warm rays and making music. Just impossible to do This is why I've started to lust after an OP-X. Not even close to being able to afford one, and would no doubt become frustrated with it after a while. But the 'itch' is there.

Have you tried a pair of polaroid sunglasses? only problem is if you turn the screen 90 degrees it goes completely black.

That would be polarized, not Polaroid... unless they produce an instant photo?

Actually, I went straight to the Polaroid site after sevenape's recommendation. Seems the original polarised glasses were indeed by Polaroid:

https://www.polaroideyewear.com/en/content/polarization

Interesting. But they’re still not called Polaroid glasses.

They may have been at one point, in the same way as the Hoover brand became so ubiquitous with vacuums (at least in the UK) that to this day vacuums are still referred to as hoovers. Perhaps not

NeuM

@el_bo said:

@NeuM said:

@el_bo said:

@NeuM said:

@sevenape said:

@el_bo said:
I think there's something to be said for the modular aspect still being a bit too clunky, especially when it comes to the simplest of things e.g trying to move/share files between any/all apps. But overall, the power and flexibility is top-notch.

My biggest frustration (And this is of course not specific to iPads/iPhones) with it in terms of portability is that it becomes useless out in the sun. Where I live there're daily periods of sun all year round. Many times during the colder months, I've longed to go out and sit at the beach, enjoying the warm rays and making music. Just impossible to do This is why I've started to lust after an OP-X. Not even close to being able to afford one, and would no doubt become frustrated with it after a while. But the 'itch' is there.

Have you tried a pair of polaroid sunglasses? only problem is if you turn the screen 90 degrees it goes completely black.

That would be polarized, not Polaroid... unless they produce an instant photo?

Actually, I went straight to the Polaroid site after sevenape's recommendation. Seems the original polarised glasses were indeed by Polaroid:

https://www.polaroideyewear.com/en/content/polarization

Interesting. But they’re still not called Polaroid glasses.

They may have been at one point, in the same way as the Hoover brand became so ubiquitous with vacuums (at least in the UK) that to this day vacuums are still referred to as hoovers. Perhaps not

Haha.

anickt

When I think Polaroid I’m shakin’ that picture…

NeuM

@anickt said:
When I think Polaroid I’m shakin’ that picture…

Well, let’s see what develops…

Ailerom

My thoughts exactly. For me it's the recording and song creation that makes the iPad worth having. An instrument you are comfortable with, iPad, guitar or otherwise is the ultimate portable music maker. The word modular is probably the key part of this thread that makes it an accurate statement.

@michael_m said:
I love iPads, but I would argue in favor of this holding the title:

It’s also less likely to run out of battery power.

jamietopol

There are small, portable MIDI controllers and some of them can connect to the iPad via Bluetooth (e.g., Xkey Air 25). This (combined with headphones) is perfect for working anywhere away from home. For live performance, I use 2 controllers and the KeyStage app. I am amazed at the number of instrument apps available, often priced at less than $5.

ervin

@el_bo said:

@NeuM said:

@sevenape said:

@el_bo said:
I think there's something to be said for the modular aspect still being a bit too clunky, especially when it comes to the simplest of things e.g trying to move/share files between any/all apps. But overall, the power and flexibility is top-notch.

My biggest frustration (And this is of course not specific to iPads/iPhones) with it in terms of portability is that it becomes useless out in the sun. Where I live there're daily periods of sun all year round. Many times during the colder months, I've longed to go out and sit at the beach, enjoying the warm rays and making music. Just impossible to do This is why I've started to lust after an OP-X. Not even close to being able to afford one, and would no doubt become frustrated with it after a while. But the 'itch' is there.

Have you tried a pair of polaroid sunglasses? only problem is if you turn the screen 90 degrees it goes completely black.

That would be polarized, not Polaroid... unless they produce an instant photo?

Actually, I went straight to the Polaroid site after sevenape's recommendation. Seems the original polarised glasses were indeed by Polaroid:

https://www.polaroideyewear.com/en/content/polarization

I have a few pairs of Polaroid branded polarised sunglasses. Pretty good for driving, too.

sevenape

@NeuM said:

@sevenape said:

@el_bo said:
I think there's something to be said for the modular aspect still being a bit too clunky, especially when it comes to the simplest of things e.g trying to move/share files between any/all apps. But overall, the power and flexibility is top-notch.

My biggest frustration (And this is of course not specific to iPads/iPhones) with it in terms of portability is that it becomes useless out in the sun. Where I live there're daily periods of sun all year round. Many times during the colder months, I've longed to go out and sit at the beach, enjoying the warm rays and making music. Just impossible to do This is why I've started to lust after an OP-X. Not even close to being able to afford one, and would no doubt become frustrated with it after a while. But the 'itch' is there.

Have you tried a pair of polaroid sunglasses? only problem is if you turn the screen 90 degrees it goes completely black.

That would be polarized, not Polaroid... unless they produce an instant photo?

I have some polaroid they are a famous brand here in Italy, like rayban or whatever but cheaper and all their sunglasses are polarised!

NeuM

@sevenape said:

@NeuM said:

@sevenape said:

@el_bo said:
I think there's something to be said for the modular aspect still being a bit too clunky, especially when it comes to the simplest of things e.g trying to move/share files between any/all apps. But overall, the power and flexibility is top-notch.

My biggest frustration (And this is of course not specific to iPads/iPhones) with it in terms of portability is that it becomes useless out in the sun. Where I live there're daily periods of sun all year round. Many times during the colder months, I've longed to go out and sit at the beach, enjoying the warm rays and making music. Just impossible to do This is why I've started to lust after an OP-X. Not even close to being able to afford one, and would no doubt become frustrated with it after a while. But the 'itch' is there.

Have you tried a pair of polaroid sunglasses? only problem is if you turn the screen 90 degrees it goes completely black.

That would be polarized, not Polaroid... unless they produce an instant photo?

I have some polaroid they are a famous brand here in Italy, like rayban or whatever but cheaper and all their sunglasses are polarised!

How interesting. I stand corrected. 👍

Poppadocrock

It is unbelievable how powerful it has become… I tell musician friends all the time.. you gotta try this.

Gavinski

@sevenape said:

@el_bo said:
I think there's something to be said for the modular aspect still being a bit too clunky, especially when it comes to the simplest of things e.g trying to move/share files between any/all apps. But overall, the power and flexibility is top-notch.

My biggest frustration (And this is of course not specific to iPads/iPhones) with it in terms of portability is that it becomes useless out in the sun. Where I live there're daily periods of sun all year round. Many times during the colder months, I've longed to go out and sit at the beach, enjoying the warm rays and making music. Just impossible to do This is why I've started to lust after an OP-X. Not even close to being able to afford one, and would no doubt become frustrated with it after a while. But the 'itch' is there.

Have you tried a pair of polaroid sunglasses? only problem is if you turn the screen 90 degrees it goes completely black.

I think by rotate you just mean move your devices screen slightly to the left or right? Being in landscape or portrait mode is irrelevant, right?

Also, I'd imagine it might be a good solution to bring a black umbrella with you and use that to shade the iPad screen

sevenape

@Gavinski said:

@sevenape said:

@el_bo said:
I think there's something to be said for the modular aspect still being a bit too clunky, especially when it comes to the simplest of things e.g trying to move/share files between any/all apps. But overall, the power and flexibility is top-notch.

My biggest frustration (And this is of course not specific to iPads/iPhones) with it in terms of portability is that it becomes useless out in the sun. Where I live there're daily periods of sun all year round. Many times during the colder months, I've longed to go out and sit at the beach, enjoying the warm rays and making music. Just impossible to do This is why I've started to lust after an OP-X. Not even close to being able to afford one, and would no doubt become frustrated with it after a while. But the 'itch' is there.

Have you tried a pair of polaroid sunglasses? only problem is if you turn the screen 90 degrees it goes completely black.

I think by rotate you just mean move your devices screen slightly to the left or right? Being in landscape or portrait mode is irrelevant, right?

Also, I'd imagine it might be a good solution to bring a black umbrella with you and use that to shade the iPad screen

Gavinski

Wow, interesting! @sevenape

sevenape

@Gavinski said:
Wow, interesting! @sevenape

That's the only evidence I have. I will conduct my own experiment later and report back

el_bo

@Gavinski said:
Wow, interesting! @sevenape

@Gavinski said:

@sevenape said:

@el_bo said:
I think there's something to be said for the modular aspect still being a bit too clunky, especially when it comes to the simplest of things e.g trying to move/share files between any/all apps. But overall, the power and flexibility is top-notch.

My biggest frustration (And this is of course not specific to iPads/iPhones) with it in terms of portability is that it becomes useless out in the sun. Where I live there're daily periods of sun all year round. Many times during the colder months, I've longed to go out and sit at the beach, enjoying the warm rays and making music. Just impossible to do This is why I've started to lust after an OP-X. Not even close to being able to afford one, and would no doubt become frustrated with it after a while. But the 'itch' is there.

Have you tried a pair of polaroid sunglasses? only problem is if you turn the screen 90 degrees it goes completely black.

I think by rotate you just mean move your devices screen slightly to the left or right? Being in landscape or portrait mode is irrelevant, right?

Also, I'd imagine it might be a good solution to bring a black umbrella with you and use that to shade the iPad screen

No…As you see from the video, it’s a portrait vs landscape thing. The reason, I discovered, was that the iPad screen also uses polarising technology. But they both work at slightly different angles. portrait mode seems to be the point at which they clash and null each other out

Didn’t think about a brolly, but I do actually have an spf sun unmbrella. The issue here would be placement, how to mount and/or what contortions I'd have to make in order to shade and comfortably view the screen. Really looking for options with as little 'friction' as possible, to make it feel like zero hassle. Just an iPad and the pencil is ideal. If sunglasses make it a workable proposition, that’s definitely doable. Already seen some well-recommended and cheap pairs on amazon.

Maybe if they don’t work out I could try to make a mounted box like this:

el_bo

@sevenape said:

@Gavinski said:
Wow, interesting! @sevenape

That's the only evidence I have. I will conduct my own experiment later and report back

I watched a handful of videos that show the same thing, but none really gave much of an idea of the real difference in sunlight. I suppose if nothing else, removing the glare directly from my eyes would already make a huge difference.

Anyway…sorry to derail your thread.

Gavinski

@el_bo said:

@Gavinski said:
Wow, interesting! @sevenape

@Gavinski said:

@sevenape said:

@el_bo said:
I think there's something to be said for the modular aspect still being a bit too clunky, especially when it comes to the simplest of things e.g trying to move/share files between any/all apps. But overall, the power and flexibility is top-notch.

My biggest frustration (And this is of course not specific to iPads/iPhones) with it in terms of portability is that it becomes useless out in the sun. Where I live there're daily periods of sun all year round. Many times during the colder months, I've longed to go out and sit at the beach, enjoying the warm rays and making music. Just impossible to do This is why I've started to lust after an OP-X. Not even close to being able to afford one, and would no doubt become frustrated with it after a while. But the 'itch' is there.

Have you tried a pair of polaroid sunglasses? only problem is if you turn the screen 90 degrees it goes completely black.

I think by rotate you just mean move your devices screen slightly to the left or right? Being in landscape or portrait mode is irrelevant, right?

Also, I'd imagine it might be a good solution to bring a black umbrella with you and use that to shade the iPad screen

No…As you see from the video, it’s a portrait vs landscape thing. The reason, I discovered, was that the iPad screen also uses polarising technology. But they both work at slightly different angles. portrait mode seems to be the point at which they clash and null each other out

Didn’t think about a brolly, but I do actually have an spf sun unmbrella. The issue here would be placement, how to mount and/or what contortions I'd have to make in order to shade and comfortably view the screen. Really looking for options with as little 'friction' as possible, to make it feel like zero hassle. Just an iPad and the pencil is ideal. If sunglasses make it a workable proposition, that’s definitely doable. Already seen some well-recommended and cheap pairs on amazon.

Maybe if they don’t work out I could try to make a mounted box like this:

Lol

HotStrange

Agreed. That’s why I love the iPad so much. So many ways to route things and process sounds and samples. Any kind of synth you can imagine, tons of options for drums and grooveboxes. There’s really nothing truly like it on the market. And it’s fantastic if you’re into experimental noise making.

HotStrange

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
I've been saying something similar in that "iOS is the DAW". The iPhone is basically a decentralised modular DAW environment, and the iPad is basically an iPhone with a larger screen, lol. (Although now I have to update that to "and the iPad is basically an iPhone with a larger screen and a modified version of iOS. 😂 )

This is why I'm not stressing over this app lacking such-and-such feature and that app lacks such-and-such feature.

Same! If I like an app I always find a way to use it, regardless of what features it does or doesn’t have.

el_bo

@sevenape said:

@Gavinski said:
Wow, interesting! @sevenape

That's the only evidence I have. I will conduct my own experiment later and report back

Hey @sevenape

Was about to order the glasses, but wanted to see if you'd managed to check how they worked. I'm sure you just forgot about this...then me also. I know it's a trivial thing to return stuff to Amazon, but I'm wary of ordering if there's absolutely no worthy difference.

No pressure. If you're unable to do anything this weekend, I'll just take a chance.

Thanks!

sevenape

Sorry to report that with my iPad it’s actually worse than without… but I have a paper like-like screen protector… not sure if that makes a difference. Just tried now

el_bo

@sevenape said:
Sorry to report that with my iPad it’s actually worse than without… but I have a paper like-like screen protector… not sure if that makes a difference. Just tried now

Ah, yes! Matte screen-covers will both diffuse and dull the screen, so it's going to give a completely different result.
Will go ahead and order. Amazon are offering 7 Euros off, if I go and collect the package locally, so it's a good excuse.

Many thanks for doing that. It's much appreciated

sevenape

@el_bo said:

@sevenape said:
Sorry to report that with my iPad it’s actually worse than without… but I have a paper like-like screen protector… not sure if that makes a difference. Just tried now

Ah, yes! Matte screen-covers will both diffuse and dull the screen, so it's going to give a completely different result.
Will go ahead and order. Amazon are offering 7 Euros off, if I go and collect the package locally, so it's a good excuse.

Many thanks for doing that. It's much appreciated

Good luck!!!!

Gavinski

@el_bo said:

@sevenape said:
Sorry to report that with my iPad it’s actually worse than without… but I have a paper like-like screen protector… not sure if that makes a difference. Just tried now

Ah, yes! Matte screen-covers will both diffuse and dull the screen, so it's going to give a completely different result.
Will go ahead and order. Amazon are offering 7 Euros off, if I go and collect the package locally, so it's a good excuse.

Many thanks for doing that. It's much appreciated

Please report on that. I spend a lot of time outside generally, coming into the warmer months, being able to work on the iPad outside in sunlight would be super useful. How much did those glasses cost btw?

el_bo

@Gavinski said:

@el_bo said:

@sevenape said:
Sorry to report that with my iPad it’s actually worse than without… but I have a paper like-like screen protector… not sure if that makes a difference. Just tried now

Ah, yes! Matte screen-covers will both diffuse and dull the screen, so it's going to give a completely different result.
Will go ahead and order. Amazon are offering 7 Euros off, if I go and collect the package locally, so it's a good excuse.

Many thanks for doing that. It's much appreciated

Please report on that. I spend a lot of time outside generally, coming into the warmer months, being able to work on the iPad outside in sunlight would be super useful. How much did those glasses cost btw?

These are the ones I'm pretty set on. The only thing I can't decide is which version to get. I haven't worn sunglasses in decades, so don't really know if the mirrored ones offer any advantage:

https://www.amazon.com/-/es/deportivas-polarizadas-Ciclismo-conducción-protección/dp/B089GK2HKF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=16E2D4MGIZHVT&keywords=attcl+sunglasses+for+men+polarized&qid=1677945483&sprefix=attcl+,aps,252&sr=8-3

Edited to add: i went with the blue mirrored lenses. I've read that some glasses come with either polarised or mirrored. These have both.

Should be here tomorrow

el_bo

@Gavinski Shades didn’t work out for me, unfortunately. Wasn’t a hugely sunny day, but was comparable to when I last tried.

It doesn’t dim the huge reflections, but does dim the rest of the visible area. This might be different for anyone with an ‘Air’ or ‘Pro’ as the laminated pixels will help with a certain amount of reflection problems.

Fortunately the weather seems about to change, so am much more likely to be seeking shade. Was really hoping this would’ve been a solution for halfway cases, but they have to go back