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Anyone thought to dabble their toe into EuroRack modules?
I'm starting to get the itch.
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There's a simple cure. Go to modulargrid.net and create your perfect modular. Check the price. Itch is gone
LOL. That might just work.
Yeah, I’ve got a few over the last eighteen months, love it, and can see how you’d get into just expanding forever but it’s nice to feel the edges of limitation as well. I use it more as sound exploration / ‘design’ than a replacement for other ways of making music, and that probably helps me not jones quite so much for every fancy module under the sun… that and expert sleeps so I can drop in vCV / mirack / dRambo / AUM as and when I wish…
Be careful what you wish for…
And it all started with apps. And lots of visits to modular grid.
Just think of modules as apps. Except each one costs a couple of hundred quid…
…If you’re lucky.
Wow. That's some setup Svetlovska. The wife would kill me
How do you find the Neutron?
The Neutron was my entry drug. It is actually really great, a (gasp!) original design by Uli, and very capable as a semi modular, especially if you are into the experimental side of things. Dirt cheap, too, especially by Eurorack standards, especially second hand. A great toe-dipper, I’d say, and there’s loads of posted patches for it here: https://patch-library.net/
The other fab entry point, of course, is the BARP:
Slightly more expensive, but bang for buck at the £417 I paid from Anderson’s for the real spring verb Blue Marvin version, also a bargain. It sounds amazing.
If your thing is conventional music, you definitely get more value for money from regular synths. But my thing is widdling around with funny noises, and there really is nothing like your own collection of weird and wonderful modules for that.
A final recommendation: the most ‘modular’ semi modular I’ve found is sitting below the Neutron in my case. It’s this:
https://www.sound-machines.it/product/modulor114/
It has so many of the boring but necessary utility functions that just remain useful whether or not you go down the rabbit hole, (mixers, mults, a quantiser, clock divider, an FX unit…) and, like the Neutron, can work just fine in its own case as a standard synth (a simple button switches it from fully modular to easy-to-use prewired). Neutron for cheapness, Modulor for power. Or, the inevitable advice from anyone with the addiction: get both!
All three include MIDI to CV via USB so you can hook up your iPad or a keyboard direct. (Once you take the Neutron out of it’s case, you only have the front panel 5 pin din, mind)
Thing is, modular is like those part work encyclopaedias or magazine month by month Spitfire kits. At the end you realise you could actually have bought a real Spitfire for the money you spent, but because you can do it in dribs and drabs - a module here, a module there… you don’t have to face up to the terrifying total cost at any specific point.
Final advice: if you step beyond the Neutron or Modulor, get the biggest case you can afford. That way, you’ll only be upgrading to a bigger one a bit later on…
(The Intellijel range is fab but expensive, the Cre8 Niftycase offers amazing value by including audio out, MIDI, CV & Gate all built in and room for up to 10 modules for £195)
https://www.bax-shop.co.uk/500-series-eurorack-cases-lunchbox-frames/cre8audio-niftycase-eurorack-case?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=surfaces&gclid=CjwKCAjw5pShBhB_EiwAvmnNVz25U7BCF5TNZKoFbkfFpPV-be5G3_BkInQNd9xTgzZFh3SW_HlXyxoCeyYQAvD_BwE
Ooh-Ooh! And, if I had my time over, my first actual module would have been this:
https://www.gear4music.com/Keyboards-and-Pianos/Doepfer-A-111-6-Miniature-Synthesizer-Voice-10HP/2YQP?origin=product-ads&gclid=CjwKCAjw5pShBhB_EiwAvmnNV7cwS3b_9sKrDQGWAKg-PqrFiAmk0sBjMXQQC9Lw1ZUWy-B4Jz0MlBoC6UoQAvD_BwE
A complete all in one analog synth voice (think: SH101) in just 10 HP for £190.
Shove it in the Cre8 case, plug your iPads wildest sequencer into it’s USB socket, and you are good to go.
The BARP looks lush. I'd lose myself for days with that.
Yeah neutron also my entry point, lasted about a year with that an a couple of sq1s and some other random bits and bobs… I’m still only a couple of skiff type things in (cre8 box and an intellijel palette) but thinking about whether to get a 6/9u thing or just build a basic 100+ hp box with some rails from synthracks…
I had some modular at one point, a lot of money spent.
I can’t deal with the cables and I also never really got it to sound that good.
Now I just hoard vintage synths. 🙂
Yup, I definitely think Modular is a horses for courses thing. If I was an amazing guitarist (or, in fact, any kind of guitarist) I’m sure I’d be lusting after all sorts of beautiful instruments. But them, or great actual keyboard synths would be wasted on me, I can’t play any of them. My Arturia Keystep and Beatstep are all the inputs I need. I do love noodling about making weird and scary noises though. And modular is definitely made for that.
@Krupa : ha! Great to see the progression of the disease in a fellow afflicted. I seem to remember when you had just the Neutron and the odd module…
I can recommend the Intellijel 7U Performance case if you think you might want to move your setup around at all. Expensive, but really lightweight, tough, well designed. But since you have practical skills, maybe you should build a case? Just make it a big one. A bigger one. Biggest. You know you’ll need it eventually. 
one answer to the itch
and is free.
https://vcvrack.com/
Seems the Neutron is a gateway drug
I think I’m gonna get a 110 or 126hp frame from synthracks and just box it in - that’ll let me add the psu I lately got, get a couple of homeless modules back out, and leave room for a load of utilities and maybe one more ‘funz’ module at some point, I could defo use 60hp or so of doepfer basics… I’ll shuffle the other stuff about and it’ll still all fit 🤞😹
Btw there a new Behringer called Proton about to land as a companion/alternating to the Neutron. So if I were buying new now I’d defo look at that as it’s got a little bit more going on, wavefolding and that sort of thing as well as the more usual subtractive stuff….
I don’t intend to go into eurorack
I made my own modular synth (which in the end wasn’t modular, it was more informed by the 2600 I’d always lusted after) back in the 80s with the Digisound 80 modular series detailed in successive issues of ETI magazine
The only thing related to eurorack I have is the Behringer Cat, and having that I see that a whole modular synth full of modules that size would be unacceptable – it’s all too small
I can see my synthing is moving in two directions:
One, a single synth on iOS with (and I’m anticipating getting good enough at) Loopy Pro as the ‘tape recorder’,
The other, a very small collection of hardware units that I can run live, where ideally each thing is small, battery powered, low-cognitive load, easy to see what it’s doing (so my Opsix fails on all of these :-) )
Me too. Though currently I have the Moog Sound Studio 3 and Mavis which are enough to be going on with, while I figure out where I would want to take things. This year’s hardware budget is likely to go on a new iPad, though. That Modular that @Svetlovska mentions looks mighty useful, though. But then I’m also hankering after a Theremini… 🙄🤣
The Modulo 114 would be a very good fit for the Sound Studio 3, I think.
Yep, seems dangerously to cover the things I occasionally feel I’m missing, all in one neat package. 🤔
Certainly cheaper than buying them all as individual modules!
I like this concept and might get myself one: https://www.tangiblewaves.com/store/c2/AE_Modular:_Complete_Systems.html
Cheaper and smaller than Eurorack. And much simpler power requirements than Eurorack. Ideal for a battery powered portable system. Might even be good to complement my Korg Volca Modular that uses the same simple patch cables and low voltage CV.
I still love my Behringer K-2, a budget MS20 clone. Semi modular and lots of fun.
Money trap unless you’re really into it and either 1) somehow making a return off your investment or 2) simply really, really in to more experimental stuff and making music (doing things out of pure enjoyment should never be criticized). Or if money isn’t an issue and you just like tinkering.
Itchy itchy scratchy! I feel the pull about every six months! It all looks so fun and really tugs at my DIY strings! I have The Malevolent semi modular and the Behringer Odyssey plus 5 other analogue synths. The two things that keep me in check are:
1. No Presets! I cannot save my sounds
2. The endless spending to add/modify and upgrade, this may be one the up sides as well because it seems fun but ….
Pretty cool. I have a friend with a similar setup. Although I've been around synths for decades, I still prefer the efficiency of synths with large preset libraries. Eurorack systems are more for 'pros', those who are more technically sophisticated and for those more into experimenting with sound and electronics (at least, as far as I'm concerned).
I admire these configurations, but they're just not for me.
@NeuM : Ha! Well, I’m definitely not a pro, nor technically sophisticated, but I do plead guilty to the third category of ‘into experimenting with sound’. My first band, age 14, was a friend of mine who could play cello and me on tape recorder persuading him to get all sorts of weird noises out of it. By that time I was already an old weird-noises hand, having first got into Musique Concrete (by borrowing the famous Nonesuch compilation album from the local library) when I was about 8 (!).
So, loving weird noises, Radiophonic Workshop stuff, Forbidden Planet, all that, has been literally a life long obsession for me. Couple that to my complete and utter inability to play any instrument at all, and you have ground zero for a modular synth habit, I think.
If you think you might like Modular but don’t want all the cognitive and actual load, there is always this, plus all the ready made patches for it on Patchstorage:
https://empresseffects.com/products/zoia
https://patchstorage.com/explore/?search_query=&tax_platform[]=zoia&tax_post_tag=&orderby=modified&wpas_id=search_form&wpas_submit=1
It's not all about finger dexterity Svetlovska.
To me you are a sculptor or maybe someone who works with clay. Looking into the clay and moulding it into the shape it was meant to become.
I’ve always been the same too, I liked playing in bands and writing tunes and all that, but I could happily have spent all day just modulating feedback through my amp…
The thread title indicates toe dexterity may come into play at some point.
I picture you leaning back in your chair, fingers on iPad, feet kicked up, toes on modular.
😁
That's an excellent comparison. I've always thought of my productions as sound sculptures.
Be careful is all I can say. I don’t have a life anymore because of it, I’m so obsessed with it after finally trying it out
I'd recommend against it unless you are financially comfortable and can afford to drop many thousands on a toy. It can very easily induce addictive consumption behavior. If that has ever been a problem for you, eurorack will make it much, much worse. Also, if your goal is to produce completed tracks, then modular is nothing but a distraction.
The pros are that if you enjoy building and patching and experimenting with sound, with no end goal in sight, modular is a great playground. But it will cost you a lot of time and money and you won't produce very much of anything anyone wants to listen to with it. Stick with ios if you want to make finished tracks.