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What are some good sequencers for acid and bass lines?

Rozeta Bassline is my go to. I can't see a way to manually add slides between particular notes though. Is there one?

SquareAcid sequencer is OK, a bit limited in functionality, no randomizer. No mutation feature. Worst of all, the mid auv3 does not sync to host, you need to manually press play. Pretty bizarre omission for an auv3 Bassline generator!

What else is there? Randomisation, mutation and ability to freely edit slides and accents are key, as are being AUv3 and having proper syncing ability.

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  • @Gavinski said:
    Rozeta Bassline is my go to. I can't see a way to manually add slides between particular notes though. Is there one?

    Indeed there is, tap the area between two notes.

  • @Samu said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Rozeta Bassline is my go to. I can't see a way to manually add slides between particular notes though. Is there one?

    Indeed there is, tap the area between two notes.

    Thnx Samu. Hmm tried that earlier - wonder what I'm doing wrong. I thought I remembered it should be able to do that but couldn't get it working.

    By the way, does Pure Acid have a separate midi auv3 sequencer that can be used to control other apps? How does it compare to Rozeta Bassline?

  • @Gavinski said:

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    By the way, does Pure Acid have a separate midi auv3 sequencer that can be used to control other apps? How does it compare to Rozeta Bassline?

    Yes, it has two Midi Port Outputs, one for bass-line and one for drums.
    (To avoid it having to 'make noise' load it to a midi-slot unless you want it to make noise too).

  • Well - thanks, for whatever reason that tapping to add slides is working in Bassline now! Does Pure Acid sequencer have any features that Bassline doesn’t?

  • Also - is there a manual for Pure Acid? There doesn’t even seem to be a page for it on the dev’s website

  • I’ll be damned if I can find one. I had to watch a couple of Doug’s videos when I bought it.

  • @Gavinski It's not too difficult, I think you'd suss it out in a flash
    https://youtube.com/live/eFfzNx00kGk

  • @Gavinski said:
    Well - thanks, for whatever reason that tapping to add slides is working in Bassline now! Does Pure Acid sequencer have any features that Bassline doesn’t?

    The main difference is in how they handle variations and mutations. Also, don’t sleep on the Troublemaker stand alone sequencer. Still the most fully featured acid bassline sequencer of all IMO even with the lack of AUv3.

  • @gusgranite said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Well - thanks, for whatever reason that tapping to add slides is working in Bassline now! Does Pure Acid sequencer have any features that Bassline doesn’t?

    The main difference is in how they handle variations and mutations. Also, don’t sleep on the Troublemaker stand alone sequencer. Still the most fully featured acid bassline sequencer of all IMO even with the lack of AUv3.

    Ah yeah, especially with stage manager I mind using an iaa sequencer a bit less. Never even thought of Troublemaker, thanks!

    @thesoundtestroom cheers Doug!

  • @gusgranite said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Well - thanks, for whatever reason that tapping to add slides is working in Bassline now! Does Pure Acid sequencer have any features that Bassline doesn’t?

    The main difference is in how they handle variations and mutations. Also, don’t sleep on the Troublemaker stand alone sequencer. Still the most fully featured acid bassline sequencer of all IMO even with the lack of AUv3.

    Thing is, unless I’m doing sth wrong, Troublemaker is not receiving Link Start / Stop messages. It is endlessly stuck in that loop of searching for Link enabled apps. Any suggestions? Cheers

  • Because Troublemaker does not support Link Start/Spot messages only MIDI sync Start/Stop...
    But its sequencer is available in Rozeta bundle with all features.
    When I need something beyond Rozeta Bassline capabilities (f.e gate length per note or advanced probability features), Drambo sequencer beats everything for me... ideal for these duties and requires no modular knowledge.

  • Link start/stop didn’t exist when Troublemaker came out. Those are Link 2.0 specific features iirc.

  • @0tolerance4silence said:
    Because Troublemaker does not support Link Start/Spot messages only MIDI sync Start/Stop...
    But its sequencer is available in Rozeta bundle with all features.
    When I need something beyond Rozeta Bassline capabilities (f.e gate length per note or advanced probability features), Drambo sequencer beats everything for me... ideal for these duties and requires no modular knowledge.

    The Troublemaker sequencer has a few extra tweaks over Rozeta Bassline which still makes it worth the effort for me. I would love it if @brambos ever decided to match them feature for feature but I know he’s got other priorities on the go!

  • Ah OK, cheers @brambos > @brambos said:

    Link start/stop didn’t exist when Troublemaker came out. Those are Link 2.0 specific features iirc.

  • @gusgranite said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    Because Troublemaker does not support Link Start/Spot messages only MIDI sync Start/Stop...
    But its sequencer is available in Rozeta bundle with all features.
    When I need something beyond Rozeta Bassline capabilities (f.e gate length per note or advanced probability features), Drambo sequencer beats everything for me... ideal for these duties and requires no modular knowledge.

    The Troublemaker sequencer has a few extra tweaks over Rozeta Bassline which still makes it worth the effort for me. I would love it if @brambos ever decided to match them feature for feature but I know he’s got other priorities on the go!

    I think it is the Variation and Skip Step features that are missing from Rozeta Bassline.

  • By the way, I would love so much to sequence Rozeta Bassline with a step different than 1/16. Is there any way to do so besides slowing down the tempo? Thanks!

  • @jsmonzani said:
    By the way, I would love so much to sequence Rozeta Bassline with a step different than 1/16. Is there any way to do so besides slowing down the tempo? Thanks!

    You can choose any step length up to 16. Can you be more specific, please?

  • @gusgranite said:

    @jsmonzani said:
    By the way, I would love so much to sequence Rozeta Bassline with a step different than 1/16. Is there any way to do so besides slowing down the tempo? Thanks!

    You can choose any step length up to 16. Can you be more specific, please?

    Sure, I've never seen where is the option to change the length of individual steps. I can change the sequence's length for sure ("steps" at the bottom) but each note of the sequence is synced to an increment of 1/16. Could you show me how to change the step length please? For instance to have a longer note? Or is there a way to sync the notes of the sequence to something else than 1/16? There is no manual for it. Thank you.

  • @gusgranite said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    Because Troublemaker does not support Link Start/Spot messages only MIDI sync Start/Stop...
    But its sequencer is available in Rozeta bundle with all features.
    When I need something beyond Rozeta Bassline capabilities (f.e gate length per note or advanced probability features), Drambo sequencer beats everything for me... ideal for these duties and requires no modular knowledge.

    The Troublemaker sequencer has a few extra tweaks over Rozeta Bassline which still makes it worth the effort for me. I would love it if @brambos ever decided to match them feature for feature but I know he’s got other priorities on the go!

    I think it is the Variation and Skip Step features that are missing from Rozeta Bassline.

    Don’t seem to have this in Auv3… would be nice..

  • @jsmonzani said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @jsmonzani said:
    By the way, I would love so much to sequence Rozeta Bassline with a step different than 1/16. Is there any way to do so besides slowing down the tempo? Thanks!

    You can choose any step length up to 16. Can you be more specific, please?

    Sure, I've never seen where is the option to change the length of individual steps. I can change the sequence's length for sure ("steps" at the bottom) but each note of the sequence is synced to an increment of 1/16. Could you show me how to change the step length please? For instance to have a longer note? Or is there a way to sync the notes of the sequence to something else than 1/16? There is no manual for it. Thank you.

    Sorry I thought you meant the number of steps. And I meant to say it goes up to 64, not 16. Right. I get what you are saying. There is no tempo sync option other than what it is fixed at. You have to change the host tempo and then use the note spacing. Not easy.

  • @RajahP said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    Because Troublemaker does not support Link Start/Spot messages only MIDI sync Start/Stop...
    But its sequencer is available in Rozeta bundle with all features.
    When I need something beyond Rozeta Bassline capabilities (f.e gate length per note or advanced probability features), Drambo sequencer beats everything for me... ideal for these duties and requires no modular knowledge.

    The Troublemaker sequencer has a few extra tweaks over Rozeta Bassline which still makes it worth the effort for me. I would love it if @brambos ever decided to match them feature for feature but I know he’s got other priorities on the go!

    I think it is the Variation and Skip Step features that are missing from Rozeta Bassline.

    Don’t seem to have this in Auv3… would be nice..

    No. This is a rare standalone treat 🙂

  • @jsmonzani said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @jsmonzani said:
    By the way, I would love so much to sequence Rozeta Bassline with a step different than 1/16. Is there any way to do so besides slowing down the tempo? Thanks!

    You can choose any step length up to 16. Can you be more specific, please?

    Sure, I've never seen where is the option to change the length of individual steps. I can change the sequence's length for sure ("steps" at the bottom) but each note of the sequence is synced to an increment of 1/16. Could you show me how to change the step length please? For instance to have a longer note? Or is there a way to sync the notes of the sequence to something else than 1/16? There is no manual for it. Thank you.

    If you want a longer note, you'll have to manually set the note next to the one you want to be longer to be the same note as the previous one. Then make a tie between them by tapping on the space between them.

    I wonder if anyone has made a nice Bassline sequencer in Mozaic btw 🤔!

  • @Gavinski said:

    @jsmonzani said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @jsmonzani said:
    By the way, I would love so much to sequence Rozeta Bassline with a step different than 1/16. Is there any way to do so besides slowing down the tempo? Thanks!

    You can choose any step length up to 16. Can you be more specific, please?

    Sure, I've never seen where is the option to change the length of individual steps. I can change the sequence's length for sure ("steps" at the bottom) but each note of the sequence is synced to an increment of 1/16. Could you show me how to change the step length please? For instance to have a longer note? Or is there a way to sync the notes of the sequence to something else than 1/16? There is no manual for it. Thank you.

    If you want a longer note, you'll have to manually set the note next to the one you want to be longer to be the same note as the previous one. Then make a tie between them by tapping on the space between them.

    I wonder if anyone has made a nice Bassline sequencer in Mozaic btw 🤔!

    Thank you! Ok that's what I thought already then. Thanks for taking the time to answer!

  • @jsmonzani said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jsmonzani said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @jsmonzani said:
    By the way, I would love so much to sequence Rozeta Bassline with a step different than 1/16. Is there any way to do so besides slowing down the tempo? Thanks!

    You can choose any step length up to 16. Can you be more specific, please?

    Sure, I've never seen where is the option to change the length of individual steps. I can change the sequence's length for sure ("steps" at the bottom) but each note of the sequence is synced to an increment of 1/16. Could you show me how to change the step length please? For instance to have a longer note? Or is there a way to sync the notes of the sequence to something else than 1/16? There is no manual for it. Thank you.

    If you want a longer note, you'll have to manually set the note next to the one you want to be longer to be the same note as the previous one. Then make a tie between them by tapping on the space between them.

    I wonder if anyone has made a nice Bassline sequencer in Mozaic btw 🤔!

    Thank you! Ok that's what I thought already then. Thanks for taking the time to answer!

    Pleasure!

  • The Egoist midi plugin is pretty great for acid basslines, and actually Egoist’s bass thing does a half decent 303.

  • BTW, in case anyone doesn't know this, producing Troublemaker slides in another sequencer is simply a matter of extending the end of one note past the beginning of the next.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @jsmonzani said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @jsmonzani said:
    By the way, I would love so much to sequence Rozeta Bassline with a step different than 1/16. Is there any way to do so besides slowing down the tempo? Thanks!

    You can choose any step length up to 16. Can you be more specific, please?

    Sure, I've never seen where is the option to change the length of individual steps. I can change the sequence's length for sure ("steps" at the bottom) but each note of the sequence is synced to an increment of 1/16. Could you show me how to change the step length please? For instance to have a longer note? Or is there a way to sync the notes of the sequence to something else than 1/16? There is no manual for it. Thank you.

    If you want a longer note, you'll have to manually set the note next to the one you want to be longer to be the same note as the previous one. Then make a tie between them by tapping on the space between them.

    I wonder if anyone has made a nice Bassline sequencer in Mozaic btw 🤔!

    Thank you! Ok that's what I thought. Thanks for taking the time to answer!

  • @Gavinski said:
    I wonder if anyone has made a nice Bassline sequencer in Mozaic btw 🤔!

    Mozaic is great but isn't a very good choice to build sequencers. It's OK for stuff limited to quantized notes somewhat awkwardly entered and edited. It's not great for recording things. It also can't read and write files, so is only very useful for limited sequences.

  • wimwim
    edited May 2023

    I'm trying to understand what people see as the differences between a "Baseline" sequencer and any other sequencer.

    I mean, kind of I get it as it relates to sequencing TB-303 style basses with slides and encouraging a certain kind of style. But other than that? What are people looking for?

    [edit] mvm. I see the thread title has "Acid Bassline" sequencer. I either glanced past that originally or the title has changed.

  • @FastGhost said:
    The Egoist midi plugin is pretty great for acid basslines, and actually Egoist’s bass thing does a half decent 303.

    It’s generally what I use for driving my TD-3’s. Easy to chain up patterns and randomize/change direction.

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