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Will iOS devs start enabling there apps to run Mac M1 due to Logic Pro on ipad

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  • @NeuM said:
    Remember, Apple is in the hardware sales business. The effect their aggressive decisions in the pro-software arena have on secondary markets, such as plugins... is not their main concern. Developers will be facing a new reality with vastly increased competition and downward price pressure real soon.

    Good points.

    Should be an interesting few years ahead.

  • edited May 2023

    @ErrkaPetti said:

    @McD said:
    I have seen videos of Logic Pro composers that have hundreds of tracks and their hardware has 128GB of RAM. No IPad is going to displace hardware and software for the Pros that push the system hard.

    But we might see these composers sketching on iPads and doing what the software vendors crave… exporting their sketch up to their studio hardware.

    The Beatles had just four to eight tracks in their recordings, and, the rest in great history….

    It is remenber me when the big recording studio had only a big 32 tracks Tascam tape recorder, and only the top studios for other studios had 16 tracks only . You can do a lot with 32 tracks.

  • @NeuM said:
    Remember, Apple is in the hardware sales business.

    The way I see it, it's the opposite.

    Ever since the the iPod + iTunes, Apple has been in the services & content delivery business, and their hardware are just expensive dongles to lock you into the Apple content ecosystem. I'm sure that's also how their shareholders see them.

    Sure, they make a lot of money on the hardware too, but without the magic dough of their seamless integration of software, OS, stores, cloud services etc they would be just another Samsung and you don't want to be a competitor to big Asian electronics OEMs if your value proposition is just based on hardware specs. That's bringing a knife to a gunfight. :)

  • @BerlinFx said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:

    @McD said:
    I have seen videos of Logic Pro composers that have hundreds of tracks and their hardware has 128GB of RAM. No IPad is going to displace hardware and software for the Pros that push the system hard.

    But we might see these composers sketching on iPads and doing what the software vendors crave… exporting their sketch up to their studio hardware.

    The Beatles had just four to eight tracks in their recordings, and, the rest in great history….

    It is remenber me when the big recording studio had only a big 32 tracks Tascam tape recorder, and only the top studios for other studios had 16 tracks only . You can do a lot with 32 tracks.

    Sure. But the trade off was “overdubbing” and bouncing down (pre-mixing). Now producers keep tracks of takes to pick at mixdown. Anyway, we will have more choices with LP4IOS. and it will mark the gold rush to make IOS versions (ports) and raise prices or selling subscriptions to generate maintenance revenue.

    IOS becomes Pro when someone can make money from it. Lord knows we haven’t.

  • edited May 2023

    @brambos said:

    @NeuM said:
    Remember, Apple is in the hardware sales business.

    The way I see it, it's the opposite.

    Ever since the the iPod + iTunes, Apple has been in the services & content delivery business, and their hardware are just expensive dongles to lock you into the Apple content ecosystem. I'm sure that's also how their shareholders see them.

    Sure, they make a lot of money on the hardware too, but without the magic dough of their seamless integration of software, OS, stores, cloud services etc they would be just another Samsung and you don't want to be a competitor to big Asian electronics OEMs if your value proposition is just based on hardware specs. That's bringing a knife to a gunfight. :)

    Software and services are a growing part of their pie, but hardware sales (especially iPhone) eclipse all of their other income streams.

    https://sixcolors.com/post/2023/05/apple-q2-2023-results-94-8b-revenue-better-than-expected/

  • @brambos said:

    @NeuM said:
    Remember, Apple is in the hardware sales business.

    The way I see it, it's the opposite.

    Ever since the the iPod + iTunes, Apple has been in the services & content delivery business, and their hardware are just expensive dongles to lock you into the Apple content ecosystem. I'm sure that's also how their shareholders see them.

    Sure, they make a lot of money on the hardware too, but without the magic dough of their seamless integration of software, OS, stores, cloud services etc they would be just another Samsung and you don't want to be a competitor to big Asian electronics OEMs if your value proposition is just based on hardware specs. That's bringing a knife to a gunfight. :)

    "People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware"

  • @brambos said:

    @NeuM said:
    Remember, Apple is in the hardware sales business.

    The way I see it, it's the opposite.

    Ever since the the iPod + iTunes, Apple has been in the services & content delivery business, and their hardware are just expensive dongles to lock you into the Apple content ecosystem. I'm sure that's also how their shareholders see them.

    Sure, they make a lot of money on the hardware too, but without the magic dough of their seamless integration of software, OS, stores, cloud services etc they would be just another Samsung and you don't want to be a competitor to big Asian electronics OEMs if your value proposition is just based on hardware specs. That's bringing a knife to a gunfight. :)

    I think the folks working on the Apple silicon SoCs might quibble with your “knife to a gunfight” characterization. But I also think you’re right that Apple is paying more and more attention to recurring revenue streams, and that means services and (as of now) software.

  • edited May 2023

    It would be cool if you could plug in a computer but use ipad screen to tweak.

    When a bigger ipad is made.

    Without computer. Enough for some or mixing.

    With computer. It overides ipad cpu. Or ipad cpu is allocated to other tasks.

  • As of today, the following plugins still don't work or won't validate on Logic Pro for macOS.

    Any others that people would like to mention?

  • @sigma79 said:
    It would be cool if you could plug in a computer but use ipad screen to tweak.

    When a bigger ipad is made.

    Without computer. Enough for some or mixing.

    With computer. It overides ipad cpu. Or ipad cpu is allocated to other tasks.

    In time I do believe modular computing will become the norm, it’s slowly heading in that direction.

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