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Korg Gadget rumor: In-App Purchases in v1.0.3 (Santa Clara codename)

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  • yeah, they were pretty quiet, even at launch.
    But I was just ranting :D

  • Wishful thinking = the weak force that holds apps' atoms together.

  • edited August 2014

    Sometimes I feel having a mindset like J below would be great...

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    But I'm always checking for updates and whatnot, and I'm all like this...

  • Two classic not on a first date pictures right there :)

  • I also like 2 comments, more like less then one.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    Two classic not on a first date pictures right there :)

    Definitely. Especially the hair thing. :)

  • I'm not getting into the whole "pro-sumer" debate regarding Gadget. In part because I don't even know what that term means. I'm not a "pro" anything, so I will assume it isn't referring to me. Plenty of people on this forum are professionals/semi-professionals, but irrespective of your opinions of Gadget or Korg, this apps are portable versions of much more expensive and powerful versions available for desktop computers (or hardware synthesizers).

    iOS music, to me, is about accessibility - both in terms of cost and ease of use. It's about letting more people who have the ability to make music on some level actually produce completed music projects, whereas they might never have done so otherwise if the only option were "professional" equipment. That's why we're willing to put up with things like fixed 16GB harddrives and buffer underruns that people in other forums make fun of.

    Gadget is a good product. I don't regret the money I spent on it, and it works well compared to what I reasonably expected it to do. It is also true that they should continue to work on it and add to it (even at the additional cost of an IAP, where appropriate), just as so many other developers have done with their apps lately.

  • @supadom said:

    I doubly disagree @StormJH1 and @MalphRacchio
    Firstly, Gadget has been presented to us with a road map therefore I expect there to be a journey, an amazing journey, no kidding. So no pressure Korg bring us some awesomeness!
    Secondly it is a question of opinion but I still maintain my opinion that gadget is a prosumer app and yes you can release albums with it with your name of it but I personally wouldn't call them professional but, who the hell am I anyway.
    Thirdly $30 for an app that has this much of stuff on the inside is about average pricing for Korg the mother of IMS20, IPolysix, ielectribe and ikaossilator.

    Disclaimer: any of fence caused by the above should be taken lightly as admittedly, I'm a little drunk. Ciao

    Im sorry, but people just overthink this stuff so much. I saw guys I know getting made fun of for using fruity loops for years and those same guys ended up making a career for themselves and still do full time pro music on the same platform. They were releasing tracks that made RnB radio 7 years ago 100% on fruity loops.

    So when people look at an app like Gadget and think you can not make quality music on it, I have to disagree. The drum sounds on gadget are excellent out of the box, and the synths are as well. So you are telling me if you can't export those sounds out into a DAW, layer them if you wanted and mix a little more and make a quality release?

    Sorry but I have to disagree with that. This is the first app that really focuses on the composition side AND provides top notch sounds and UI. I think people get sidetracked on that and say its not pro because it doesn't have 5000 compressor plugins..etc.

    So much great music has been made on equipment that was not super expensive. Once you start using a price tag on something to determine its creative potential, you are already limiting your thought process.

  • I could not agree more!!!

  • @Zymos said:

    It isn't even slightly teasing or hype- they mentioned August like ONE TIME, and the whole iOS music community is all "where's the update we were promised?"

    +10. And we wonder why developers don't like to give timelines...

  • I remember watching Avicii in the studio for a making of video and in the comments some guys were making fun of him because he was using Fruity loops... :-)

  • And before Fruity Loops it was computers, generally and before that it was Alesis drum machines/ADATs and before that it was turntables and before that Rhodes 'sounded terrible' and not long before that... it was synthesizers. :)

    Bob Marley could move your soul with a $50 thrift store guitar and a half sized dictation cassette recorder, recorded on a tape that had been reused 40 times. I couldn't.

  • Yeah exactly! Glad to see others get it. It is only a matter of time before tracks composed on iPads and getting signed and released are commonplace.

  • Wow, and I've been criticized here for being harsh...some of this thread (and the Animoog update thread) are vicious.

  • @CalCutta said:

    Wow, and I've been criticized here for being harsh...some of this thread (and the Animoog update thread) are vicious.

    Couldn't agree more. Feels decidedly unlike the AB Forum.

  • Hm, on a more positive note I'm really excited about this update. Gadget is easily one of my favorite apps and I'm looking forward to see what improvements the devs will make. I'm rooting for insert effects, IAA (together with iPolysix & co) and UI improvements.

  • IT WILL NEV ER CATCH ON I TELLS YA...

  • I'm sticking with my self imposed one shot rule. Ah well, not really. All very good points and I agree pretty much with all of them. It is not the tools that make you professional but...using professional tools helps. Therefore, if you have a choice between 2 synths one of which has a richer sound then you'd be silly not to go with that one. Same goes for the guitars, bar seasick Steve. Admittedly at this point in time, probably gadget wins due to it being an all-in-one compact self synced solution. This IMO comes at an expense of the sound, have you ever tried running animoog in parallel with say, neosoul keys. Crackle, crackle. Why? Because a rich sound comes at a cost. I guess it all comes down to a compromise between the quality and viability and gadget on ipad is super-viable. I'm more than happy to agree to disagree. :)

    I don't think this thread is all that bad @syrupcore @CalCutta Nobody's calling any names and there's no insults flying around. This forum has seen much shittier threads, I recall.

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    Insults to board members, maybe not. Insults to developers that haven't really been justified though...

    edit: Here's full disclosure of my thoughts on this thread and some of the board outlook on the whole. There has been a recent spate of insistence here that apps need to be updated, and that they're somehow inferior because they haven't been updated. I don't think all of it is asinine...but most of it is. Everyone has different passions within their chosen crafts. I guess I just find the passion of "let's always just focus on and hype whichever app is about to come out or whichever app is about to get some update" to be misguided and a bit tactless. What's worse, I've found myself feeling like I've become a part of it (the Oscilab release was educational for me on this point).

  • @CalCutta said:

    Insults to board members, maybe not. Insults to developers that haven't really been justified though...

    Examples?

  • Well implying that Gadget is not a "professional application", for starters... ;)

  • @JohnnyGoodyear one of the problems of the forum is that when you post great content, you can't necessarily see how many folks are laughing or agreeing with you. So as a public service from a AB vet to a newbie: your stuff is good stuff, I'm always laughing my ass off at your posts. But stay humble, one wrong obtuse comment can tarnish your name for years!
    (Ps: I like Gadget except they made it sideways and neck neck gets sore when I use it..)

  • @CalCutta said:

    Well implying that Gadget is not a "professional application", for starters... ;)

    They can take it, they are mighty Korg! :)

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    @NoiseHorse said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear one of the problems of the forum is that when you post great content, you can't necessarily see how many folks are laughing or agreeing with you. So as a public service from a AB vet to a newbie: your stuff is good stuff, I'm always laughing my ass off at your posts. But stay humble, one wrong obtuse comment can tarnish your name for years!
    (Ps: I like Gadget except they made it sideways and neck neck gets sore when I use it..)

    Thanks for the warning, but it must be said that I am somewhat a student of 'The Lifecycle of Online Communities' (I have a dull real life) and as an admin many times over elsewhere have seen these cycles play out. For all of that, one of the things I like about this group is that it plays mostly nice, is mostly grown-up, and doesn't take itself too seriously. Bit like the Ultimate Frisbee game I play at Zilker Park. Saturdays at 6.30 if anyone wants a game :)

  • Saying that, these things were absolutely crap....now I have a good reason to complain! lol

  • hahaha but it would then be balanced out by a good product ;) Praise does as much to encourage a company to continue to improve as criticism does (if not more)

  • @StormJH1 said:

    iOS music, to me, is about accessibility - both in terms of cost and ease of use. It's about letting more people who have the ability to make music on some level actually produce completed music projects, whereas they might never have done so otherwise if the only option were "professional" equipment. That's why we're willing to put up with things like fixed 16GB harddrives and buffer underruns that people in other forums make fun of.

    I agree with this. I love mixing on auria because it is usually with me. There are many things that I can accomplish more easily with reaper (and people get made fun of for using that instead of "pro" tools), but the fact that I can open up my iPad cover and have auria running in about 5 seconds, means I am finishing projects. Despite workarounds, that's worth EVERYTHING. When I tell people I mixed my album in auria, they either don't care or are fascinated. But either way, no one commented on hearing the album that it was good for being mixed in auria, their comments were on the songs themselves, so that tells me the tools work. If their comment was "great mix" or "great sound," then I failed! (Bad mix too, not everyone loved it!)

    If you can't make a decent song and recording (meaning one you think sounds good) with the tools we have now, time to look elsewhere for something to do.

  • Unless they become complacent.

  • edited August 2014

    I don't think that's a fair thing to say about Korg. Their product development has been quite active, and intriguing. And I'm saying that while I simultaneously have basically no interest in their current hardware, but I respect the hell out of it! LittleBits, Volca series, MS-20 Kit; these are all way more interesting products than what any other music company of comparable size is putting out.

    edit: I do see your point about complacency though. There are certain other companies which I've vocally disparaged on here recently that come to mind...

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