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TATAT by K Devices (Released)

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  • Nice, gonna pair with Logic.

  • edited May 2023

    Is there a bug or something I haven’t figured out regarding the keyboard mode to input notes?

    I can use the keyboard to set notes for note 1. But let’s say I select note 3, and let’s say it is set to a G. I then press on a G# on the AUM keyboard. But instead of note 3 becoming G#, Note 1 becomes G#. Basically the AUM keyboard only seems to control note 1, regardless of which note is selected.

  • @Gavinski said:
    Is there a bug or something I haven’t figured out regarding the keyboard mode to input notes?

    I can use the keyboard to set notes for note 1. But let’s say I select note 3, and let’s say it is set to a G. I then press on a G# on the AUM keyboard. But instead of note 3 becoming G#, Note 1 becomes G#. Basically the AUM keyboard only seems to control note 1, regardless of which note is selected.

    It looks like you don't select notes or enter them in sequence; you enter chords instead

  • @Grandbear said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Is there a bug or something I haven’t figured out regarding the keyboard mode to input notes?

    I can use the keyboard to set notes for note 1. But let’s say I select note 3, and let’s say it is set to a G. I then press on a G# on the AUM keyboard. But instead of note 3 becoming G#, Note 1 becomes G#. Basically the AUM keyboard only seems to control note 1, regardless of which note is selected.

    It looks like you don't select notes or enter them in sequence; you enter chords instead

    Ah! Thanks!

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Grandbear said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Is there a bug or something I haven’t figured out regarding the keyboard mode to input notes?

    I can use the keyboard to set notes for note 1. But let’s say I select note 3, and let’s say it is set to a G. I then press on a G# on the AUM keyboard. But instead of note 3 becoming G#, Note 1 becomes G#. Basically the AUM keyboard only seems to control note 1, regardless of which note is selected.

    It looks like you don't select notes or enter them in sequence; you enter chords instead

    Ah! Thanks!

    However - I am not finding that method of input remotely accurate when playing in via a keyboard - it might work ok for midi chords from a generator of some sort. If you play a bunch of 4-note chords are you actually getting it to reflect accurately the notes played each time in the correct spaces?

  • rvrrvr
    edited May 2023

    This one is super cool, especially for those who hate piano roll like me. But good lord its impossible to dial in notes on iphone, it selects next note almost always when I take finger off screen due to super fast scroll setting.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Grandbear said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Is there a bug or something I haven’t figured out regarding the keyboard mode to input notes?

    I can use the keyboard to set notes for note 1. But let’s say I select note 3, and let’s say it is set to a G. I then press on a G# on the AUM keyboard. But instead of note 3 becoming G#, Note 1 becomes G#. Basically the AUM keyboard only seems to control note 1, regardless of which note is selected.

    It looks like you don't select notes or enter them in sequence; you enter chords instead

    Ah! Thanks!

    However - I am not finding that method of input remotely accurate when playing in via a keyboard - it might work ok for midi chords from a generator of some sort. If you play a bunch of 4-note chords are you actually getting it to reflect accurately the notes played each time in the correct spaces?

    It seems to work for me like it would in an arpeggiator that plays "in order". For example, if a play the same three-note chord repeatedly the first three notes may change but they're always the same set of three. The fourth note would be unchanged, in order to set it I need to play four notes at the same time.

  • Oops also figured out, didnt see that reply about chords

  • @Grandbear said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Grandbear said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Is there a bug or something I haven’t figured out regarding the keyboard mode to input notes?

    I can use the keyboard to set notes for note 1. But let’s say I select note 3, and let’s say it is set to a G. I then press on a G# on the AUM keyboard. But instead of note 3 becoming G#, Note 1 becomes G#. Basically the AUM keyboard only seems to control note 1, regardless of which note is selected.

    It looks like you don't select notes or enter them in sequence; you enter chords instead

    Ah! Thanks!

    However - I am not finding that method of input remotely accurate when playing in via a keyboard - it might work ok for midi chords from a generator of some sort. If you play a bunch of 4-note chords are you actually getting it to reflect accurately the notes played each time in the correct spaces?

    It seems to work for me like it would in an arpeggiator that plays "in order". For example, if a play the same three-note chord repeatedly the first three notes may change but they're always the same set of three. The fourth note would be unchanged, in order to set it I need to play four notes at the same time.

    Right, so it will pick up on those short timing differences in which notes you actually hit first, even though you’re maybe trying to play all at the same time, cheers

  • Been eagerly anticipating this one. Purchased.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Grandbear said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Grandbear said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Is there a bug or something I haven’t figured out regarding the keyboard mode to input notes?

    I can use the keyboard to set notes for note 1. But let’s say I select note 3, and let’s say it is set to a G. I then press on a G# on the AUM keyboard. But instead of note 3 becoming G#, Note 1 becomes G#. Basically the AUM keyboard only seems to control note 1, regardless of which note is selected.

    It looks like you don't select notes or enter them in sequence; you enter chords instead

    Ah! Thanks!

    However - I am not finding that method of input remotely accurate when playing in via a keyboard - it might work ok for midi chords from a generator of some sort. If you play a bunch of 4-note chords are you actually getting it to reflect accurately the notes played each time in the correct spaces?

    It seems to work for me like it would in an arpeggiator that plays "in order". For example, if a play the same three-note chord repeatedly the first three notes may change but they're always the same set of three. The fourth note would be unchanged, in order to set it I need to play four notes at the same time.

    Right, so it will pick up on those short timing differences in which notes you actually hit first, even though you’re maybe trying to play all at the same time, cheers

    @Gavinski, did they finally implement the ‘save / import’ preset?

  • Oh wow, probably overlooked this one, this + the new granular Microfreak update is going to be amazing.

  • Very fun generative app 👍🏻

  • @rvr said:
    This one is super cool, especially for those who hate piano roll like me. But good lord its impossible to dial in notes on iphone, it selects next note almost always when I take finger off screen due to super fast scroll setting.

    This is a steal for $2.99. Already had an hour of fun with it.

    Couple things, the notes do scroll fast. I was hoping the bi chords had negative values too. With Au window resizes, even on iPad the screen, the au window (in AUM) could use a slight adjustment. It’s really close, but there is some extra grey area in most window sizes.

    Can anyone remember if K Devices is in here? Or best way to reach them? I’m guessing App Store or website?

  • @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Grandbear said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Grandbear said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Is there a bug or something I haven’t figured out regarding the keyboard mode to input notes?

    I can use the keyboard to set notes for note 1. But let’s say I select note 3, and let’s say it is set to a G. I then press on a G# on the AUM keyboard. But instead of note 3 becoming G#, Note 1 becomes G#. Basically the AUM keyboard only seems to control note 1, regardless of which note is selected.

    It looks like you don't select notes or enter them in sequence; you enter chords instead

    Ah! Thanks!

    However - I am not finding that method of input remotely accurate when playing in via a keyboard - it might work ok for midi chords from a generator of some sort. If you play a bunch of 4-note chords are you actually getting it to reflect accurately the notes played each time in the correct spaces?

    It seems to work for me like it would in an arpeggiator that plays "in order". For example, if a play the same three-note chord repeatedly the first three notes may change but they're always the same set of three. The fourth note would be unchanged, in order to set it I need to play four notes at the same time.

    Right, so it will pick up on those short timing differences in which notes you actually hit first, even though you’re maybe trying to play all at the same time, cheers

    @Gavinski, did they finally implement the ‘save / import’ preset?

    There’s this, but don’t see a way to save other than inside the host preset system if it has one.

  • @Poppadocrock said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Grandbear said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Grandbear said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Is there a bug or something I haven’t figured out regarding the keyboard mode to input notes?

    I can use the keyboard to set notes for note 1. But let’s say I select note 3, and let’s say it is set to a G. I then press on a G# on the AUM keyboard. But instead of note 3 becoming G#, Note 1 becomes G#. Basically the AUM keyboard only seems to control note 1, regardless of which note is selected.

    It looks like you don't select notes or enter them in sequence; you enter chords instead

    Ah! Thanks!

    However - I am not finding that method of input remotely accurate when playing in via a keyboard - it might work ok for midi chords from a generator of some sort. If you play a bunch of 4-note chords are you actually getting it to reflect accurately the notes played each time in the correct spaces?

    It seems to work for me like it would in an arpeggiator that plays "in order". For example, if a play the same three-note chord repeatedly the first three notes may change but they're always the same set of three. The fourth note would be unchanged, in order to set it I need to play four notes at the same time.

    Right, so it will pick up on those short timing differences in which notes you actually hit first, even though you’re maybe trying to play all at the same time, cheers

    @Gavinski, did they finally implement the ‘save / import’ preset?

    There’s this, but don’t see a way to save other than inside the host preset system if it has one.

    @Papadoccrock, thanx on info. Saving in the host was present from day one, just hoped that they will fix this finally. I will from now on stop nagging about this deficiency. Going to continue using them like a lovely imperfect fx toolbox. ;) K-Device plugins are really special.

  • @>; @Luxthor said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Grandbear said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Grandbear said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Is there a bug or something I haven’t figured out regarding the keyboard mode to input notes?

    I can use the keyboard to set notes for note 1. But let’s say I select note 3, and let’s say it is set to a G. I then press on a G# on the AUM keyboard. But instead of note 3 becoming G#, Note 1 becomes G#. Basically the AUM keyboard only seems to control note 1, regardless of which note is selected.

    It looks like you don't select notes or enter them in sequence; you enter chords instead

    Ah! Thanks!

    However - I am not finding that method of input remotely accurate when playing in via a keyboard - it might work ok for midi chords from a generator of some sort. If you play a bunch of 4-note chords are you actually getting it to reflect accurately the notes played each time in the correct spaces?

    It seems to work for me like it would in an arpeggiator that plays "in order". For example, if a play the same three-note chord repeatedly the first three notes may change but they're always the same set of three. The fourth note would be unchanged, in order to set it I need to play four notes at the same time.

    Right, so it will pick up on those short timing differences in which notes you actually hit first, even though you’re maybe trying to play all at the same time, cheers

    @Gavinski, did they finally implement the ‘save / import’ preset?

    There’s this, but don’t see a way to save other than inside the host preset system if it has one.

    @Papadoccrock, thanx on info. Saving in the host was present from day one, just hoped that they will fix this finally. I will from now on stop nagging about this deficiency. Going to continue using them like a lovely imperfect fx toolbox. ;) K-Device plugins are really special.

    Sadly no change there. I saw someone post here earlier that they said they weren't going to implement a proper preset system. Such a pity. I'll stick to saving presets in aum for now

  • I love the K-Devices stuff. Glad this one finally got ported, definitely picking it up.

  • So you put chords in and get chaotic output? It sounds kind of like Ionarics but more random, judging by the first few minutes of Gavinski's vid.

  • Am I seeing a bug in the key input? I’ve tried feeding Tatat both Scaler2 and Chordjam but I only ever get the first 2 note’s following the incoming chords. Loving the variations I’ve gotten so far, from subtle to crazy!

  • @RJB said:
    Am I seeing a bug in the key input? I’ve tried feeding Tatat both Scaler2 and Chordjam but I only ever get the first 2 note’s following the incoming chords. Loving the variations I’ve gotten so far, from subtle to crazy!

    I could be wrong but it’s a generator - it doesn’t follow chords or input. You can shove stuff after it though.

  • edited May 2023

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    So you put chords in and get chaotic output? It sounds kind of like Ionarics but more random, judging by the first few minutes of Gavinski's vid.

    All is revealed...

  • I know that the spirit of the tool is to experiment and let it do its thing, but I'd still like to understand, if someone has figured it out:

    • Why do I get notes even if all six chance params are set to 0%?
    • Why don't I get notes every 1/8 if I have 100% chance on 1/1, 1/4 and 1/8 with 0% less, delay and fixed velocity? Is there some kind of interference logic?
  • Demo and giveaway

  • @audiblevideo said:

    @RJB said:
    Am I seeing a bug in the key input? I’ve tried feeding Tatat both Scaler2 and Chordjam but I only ever get the first 2 note’s following the incoming chords. Loving the variations I’ve gotten so far, from subtle to crazy!

    I could be wrong but it’s a generator - it doesn’t follow chords or input. You can shove stuff after it though.

    You are wrong actually! Probably worth reading the notes I put in the pinned comment of my vid. You don't need to put anything in, but you can put stuff in by turning on the keyboard icon in the notes area. You can then use it as a kind of unusual arp. See discussion above about how that actually works, otherwise it is a bit confusing for sure.

  • @Gavinski said:
    @>; @Luxthor said:

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Grandbear said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Grandbear said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Is there a bug or something I haven’t figured out regarding the keyboard mode to input notes?

    I can use the keyboard to set notes for note 1. But let’s say I select note 3, and let’s say it is set to a G. I then press on a G# on the AUM keyboard. But instead of note 3 becoming G#, Note 1 becomes G#. Basically the AUM keyboard only seems to control note 1, regardless of which note is selected.

    It looks like you don't select notes or enter them in sequence; you enter chords instead

    Ah! Thanks!

    However - I am not finding that method of input remotely accurate when playing in via a keyboard - it might work ok for midi chords from a generator of some sort. If you play a bunch of 4-note chords are you actually getting it to reflect accurately the notes played each time in the correct spaces?

    It seems to work for me like it would in an arpeggiator that plays "in order". For example, if a play the same three-note chord repeatedly the first three notes may change but they're always the same set of three. The fourth note would be unchanged, in order to set it I need to play four notes at the same time.

    Right, so it will pick up on those short timing differences in which notes you actually hit first, even though you’re maybe trying to play all at the same time, cheers

    @Gavinski, did they finally implement the ‘save / import’ preset?

    There’s this, but don’t see a way to save other than inside the host preset system if it has one.

    @Papadoccrock, thanx on info. Saving in the host was present from day one, just hoped that they will fix this finally. I will from now on stop nagging about this deficiency. Going to continue using them like a lovely imperfect fx toolbox. ;) K-Device plugins are really special.

    Sadly no change there. I saw someone post here earlier that they said they weren't going to implement a proper preset system. Such a pity. I'll stick to saving presets in aum for now

    Yeah, I’m going to put this deficiency under the rug and won't buy the desktop version. Don’t want to be responsible for breaking of good will around K-Devices. After all, I love them.

  • So insta bought this on release as I love k-devices, I only just got around to giving it a whirl but it is drifting like crazy? Tested in both Drambo & AUM, I did a full reboot just in case but she’s still swayin

    Anyone else had this issue? I’m guessing it must be system specific as no one else has mentioned it so far but I’m on an iPad Air 4th gen running 16.5 which I think is quite popular? I’ve already sent a video to k-devices via their contact page but if someone knows a better way to hit them up, let me know.

    Already love this thing from testing it dolo though. Now I’m off to find out if the drift is the same for multiple devices because I literally just thought of how fun this would be polyphonically!

  • @rvr said:
    This one is super cool, especially for those who hate piano roll like me. But good lord its impossible to dial in notes on iphone, it selects next note almost always when I take finger off screen due to super fast scroll setting.

    This may have been discovered already, but using the note display on the upper righg, you can tap and then set the note using keyboard...

  • edited July 2023

    This is another cool app from K-Devices!

    Is it just me, or does it barely stay sync'd to the hosts' bpm? I've tried setting it to just 1/4 or just 1/8 notes and using it in an on-the-grid rhythmic way, both in AUM and in Drambo, but if I put it in parallel to any trusted midi sequencer it falls off the beat of the project, also to just the AUM metronome.

    I've been using it in Drambo to generate a first riff but then recording that MIDI riff to a drambo clip to loop to be accurate.

    But I was wondering if anyone was using instances of this app in a project similar to say how we'd use the Bram Bos midi sequencers, expecting it to be exactly on the beat every measure.

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