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@ErrkaPetti & @stormywaterz : Thank you guys for the heads up! I swear sometimes when an issue like that comes up and I immediately think the solution is probably some complex hoop jumping, it will be the most simple fix.
@RajahP : I know the hype for Logic Pro on iPad has been meteoric but these past few weeks have really brought it home to me that this thing is an incredible achievement. Cubasis & Audio Evolution are still great DAW’s that I’ll still use. Many times creating in a different environment can inspire different sounds, arrangements, etc.
It’s kind of staggering this is the first version and already has all this. The round trip automating Fabfilter fx and mixing and going back and forth to desktop version is incredible. Also more sophisticated CPU saving stuff like disabling fx on tracks that aren’t used when opening projects.
This got me to get back into Logic desktop (from Ableton / Cubase / Bitwig) - which has really come a long way now hot damn. M2 processors with iPad / MacBook and Logic is a serious production eco system.
The 3rd party fx really feel somehow more useable and well managed in Logic on iPad. Easier to access and use or something
I‘m interested in ‚warping‘ Audio (like Audio-Warp in CUBASE).
Is there a video showing Smart Tempo / Flex Time in Logic Pro for iPad for Audio?
Download the demo and play around with it
I'm quite sure more 'advanced' videos will pop up once the basics have been covered...
Just dropped in to say I’m pleasantly surprised with the clip/loop view in Logic iPad.Recently discovered the “Copy selection to Live Loops”, it’s such a great feature. It copies everything between loop locators into the right loops, such a time-saver.
Here’s a use case… I’m working on a song in the timeline and I’m stuck, keep switching parts. Can’t figure out the transitions and what sounds good where. This is very time consuming on the timeline, a lot of copy/paste and pushing things around just to hear that the new arrangement also sucks… So I move it all to Live Loops and there you can try out stuff really quick. Intro, transition to verse, add this here, take this out there… Once you settle on a flow you like it’s easy to replicate on the timeline, the hard part is done.
I'm sure you know this, but you can record a Live Loops performance straight into the timeline. Just put the play head where you want it to start in the time line, go back to Live Loops mode and hit record (you also need to turn on enable performance recording, button next to the +, duplicate, ... buttons above the cells (with an R on it) and start your Live Loops jam...
Might be advantageous duplicating the project first and then deleting everything on the timeline, then recording.
Logic on the Mac has project alternatives which are great for this, on iPad you need to handle it manually.
I've come across a really annoying bug with live loops: if I have a perfect loop recorded on the timeline (in this case a rhythm guitar part), if I send it to Live Loops it adds an extra beat on the end and completely messes the timing. Even if I Bounce In Place to a new track, this still happens. I'm wondering if it's sample-rate related.
Can you edit the loop length in the cell editor or Cell inspector? If you edit it in the cell editor you can drag the loop start and loop end of the audio. Annoying to have to edit it but should fix the issue?
I don't think that solves the issue, because it's a tempo problem. If I bounce the part to a new track so that it's a perfectly trimmed the problem still occurs (at least in this one project). Sending a perfect 4-bar loop over to Live Loops results in a loop that is longer than the original, as if it was being timestretched. Trimming off the final beat doesn't solve the timing issue.
That's why I was wondering if it was sample-rate related, the project is a 48k. Maybe it's just a glitch in this project.
Weird. The only the other thing I'd try is to make sure flex and follow are the same for each (which they definitely obviously should be) and "Original tempo" is the same -- and the other parameters that could affect it like speed. Maybe you can get it to play right if you change the original tempo parameter?
But yeah, sound like a bug.
Something similar happened to me. On the Linear timeline, with flex and such turned on, the audio was fine. When transferring to Live Loops everything was messed up. The “Original tempos” were all wrong. I turned off flex on every loop and then it was ok. Which sucks if you want to do some tempo changes…
Anyone have luck using Learn Plug-in Parameter in Modifier to map Alchemy’s Y-transform to a CC.
Mapping to X-transform works as expected, but moving the transform x-y control always maps x, never y. This seems to be a known issue that can be worked around by mapping manually in Logic for Mac. I don’t have access to Logic Mac, so was wondering if this at all possible onLogic for iPad…
Can Logic Pro for iPad sync to MIDI Clock? Does it have Ableton Link?
Thanks.
Yes on both questions!
Thanks @ErrkaPetti!
I haven't found a way. The workaround I've seen on Logic Mac is to switch into the controls view, which basically replaces the pretty plugin interface with a bunch of sliders, and then the X and Y transform controls are separated so you can learn the Y control. I haven't found a way to get Into this controls view on the iPad version.
Just posting this here since I’m interested in the step sequencer myself.
I believe mister LazerDisc is a member of the forum? He’s made a few other Logic vids.
Ok, thanks for confirming that @SuperNiCd .
I’m going to try to track down a logic Mac user at work and set up the modifiers there and export the whole thing as an instrument preset. Hopefully the Midi settings will transfer. We’ll see.
Quite the oversight though. Also no external midi control of the mixer—that’s killing me.
I believe I’ve found that the Lfo’s for quick sampler are not working. Can anyone else confirm that?
Have a project in bm3 moving it over to logic and recreating the sample I used. I got lfo modulation on a square wave but it does not modulate. It stays mono toned. I could be doing it wrong. Dropped my sample in sampler then turned on lfo1 then changed the wave to square and rate to 1/8.
Nice one!! just tried this and it’s perfect 👍
I've mapped the Alchemy performance pad X and Y in the script in the demo project attached to this post.
More info on the script itself here:
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/1216448#Comment_1216448
You can basically control the X and Y pad in alchemy from an external midi controller. Just change the CC in the input section or put the script after something like Rozeta LFO which would then control X and Y independently (and you can scale them in the script including inverting the direction by making Min > Max).
Not a solution but should work as a hacky workaround. Save the alchemy track as a patch and you can easily load it pre-mapped into any other project along with the fx chain.
Perfecto! Thanks, @klownshed
Under the section ‘Discoveries’:
Not only Atom v2 is working (to be find) in Logic Pro for iPad, also Helium Sequencer can’t be find in LP4i?
Has someone else here had Helium sitting in the MIDI FX port in Logic?
As I have iPadOS 17 beta 2 on my iPad Pro M1, that can be the reason, or?
I just had a look. Helium is visible and works for me, but Atom 2 is missing in the AU list.
Thanks for looking into this.
A matter of facts, when I tried to cold reboot my iPad, then Helium suddenly show up in Logic…
Strange things happen all the time in the world of electronic devices…
Helium is great!
Yep, can’t find ATOM2 .. it may have something to do with the 17 beta.. Nice to know that it will come..
I’m not sure I’d ever want to use atom in Logic. The disadvantage of not having ‘proper’ regions in the arrange view massively outweighs any potential benefits in my very humble opinion.
I have and use Atom 2 with aum. Mainly on iPhone.
For transposing and editing midi in Logic…
After initially problem with using Helium Sequencer in Logic Pro for iPad, I’m pretty satisfied what it does.
Logic doesn’t export MIDI, fixed that with Helium, when manual programming MIDI Helium and the nice way to insert MIDI-clips as chords, scales, chord progressions etc etc…
As I see it Helium (or other similar sequencer AUv3) makes Logic even better…
I can edit and transpose midi in Logic (non destructively) already. Using atom just means I don’t get the nice little regions I can arrange on the main page. Which is one of the key feature of Logic for me.
I can’t think of a single thing that atom can do that would make that huge drawback worthwhile.
So yea. Nah.
But it’s all cool. I’m too set in my ways to want to use Logic any other way than using the arrange page/panel/whateveritscalled as the main hub of my music making.
The piano roll editor and step editor cover all my needs.
If I want to input chords I just play them.
If I didn’t want to play them I’d use the chord strip keyboard instead.
I’m very aware I’m too entrenched in the way Logic works to want to change the fundamentals that actually made me want to use it in the first place.
I’m Not suggesting that anybody else shouldn’t use whichever editors they want but I’m simultaneously shaking my head at the thought of not being able to see midi regions in the timeline!
Unless you’re only using them in Live Loops mode but even then I can see more drawbacks than advantages.
Whatever floats your boat though.
I have no need for exporting midi either so it’s obviously not for my use case.
And to repeat. I’m not suggesting you shouldn’t use them.
It’s like when I see people walking down the street shouting into their phones in speaker mode rather than holding them up to their ear. Or holding an SLR camera at arms length like a baby that’s just stunk out it’s nappy looking at the tiny tv at the back rather than hold it (the camera not the baby!) up to their eye and use the viewfinder like a civilised person
just because I think it’s madness doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do it!
Oh and if you use an external sequencer you miss out on the combination of regions and the non destructive inspector parameters.
This combo was the killer feature that made me get Logic in the first place.
Transposing/quantising/muting/looping/micro adjustments of timing etc of regions is something I can’t do without.
Once I’ve entered the midi into a region most of the editing I need can then be done in the arrange window really quickly. Duplicate a region to another track and drop by an octave and make the notes legato and bring them all forward by a few rocks to make it groove better… all done via the inspector with a couple of tap. Just one example.
That’s the core of Logic for me. I can’t overstate how much that forms the bedrock of everything I do musically. :-)