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Blackhole or Cascade?

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  • @Luxthor said:

    @el_bo said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @KMTGN said:
    I need a cosmic, big reverb for ambient and emulation of large spaces. I choose from these two. Would like to know your opinion?

    Cascade replaced Velvet for me/

    It took me a long time to finally get to 'Velvet'. 'And within days, 'Cascade' was released. I did momentarily regret laying out for V, until I started placing it in the chain, before C. Shaping the signal (especially the attack) before sending it into the 'tail' makes for a great little combo ;)

    Yes, they are after all different FX. I am still using Velvet, love to stretch bass before starting to mangle with FF Vulcan or SugarBytes WoW.

    👍🏼

  • Mi-Rack is home to some nice big verbs.

  • edited June 2023

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    Really? Mine crashes on attempted open. Can't even get it to work. And I've even offloaded and reinstalled it.

  • @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    ‘Project 16’?! You really love to name things. ;)

    About LL, trying to restrain myself from using it. Need to make a few IR when I still can, so I can have some of this magic for years to come.

  • @NeuM said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    Really? Mine crashes on attempted open. Can't even get it to work. And I've even offloaded and reinstalled it.

    You scared me for a moment. Tested LL, works just fine. 😎
    (iPad Pro M2, 16.5)

  • @NeuM said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    Really? Mine crashes on attempted open. Can't even get it to work. And I've even offloaded and reinstalled it.

    Yep, working fine.

    @Luxthor said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    ‘Project 16’?! You really love to name things. ;)

    Yeah I don’t name things until they start becoming something. Right now, I have a lot of “test” projects, y’know, seeing if this and that work with Logic.

    I wish they’d give us a “Save As”!

  • My go-to reverb is the ToneBoosters one. Very natural sounding, with EQ, modulation etc.

  • @NeuM said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    Really? Mine crashes on attempted open. Can't even get it to work. And I've even offloaded and reinstalled it.

    Working fine for me in AUM

  • @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    Really? Mine crashes on attempted open. Can't even get it to work. And I've even offloaded and reinstalled it.

    Yep, working fine.

    @Luxthor said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    ‘Project 16’?! You really love to name things. ;)

    Yeah I don’t name things until they start becoming something. Right now, I have a lot of “test” projects, y’know, seeing if this and that work with Logic.

    I wish they’d give us a “Save As”!

    Yes, It’s a shame, you need to; close the project -> find icon -> long tap on it -> select ‘duplicate’ -> find this new icon -> long tap on it -> select ‘rename’ -> give the freaking name -> open it.

    Some professionals at Apple think this is better than simple ‘Save as’. 😂

  • @Luxthor said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    Really? Mine crashes on attempted open. Can't even get it to work. And I've even offloaded and reinstalled it.

    Yep, working fine.

    @Luxthor said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    ‘Project 16’?! You really love to name things. ;)

    Yeah I don’t name things until they start becoming something. Right now, I have a lot of “test” projects, y’know, seeing if this and that work with Logic.

    I wish they’d give us a “Save As”!

    Yes, It’s a shame, you need to; close the project -> find icon -> long tap on it -> select ‘duplicate’ -> find this new icon -> long tap on it -> select ‘rename’ -> give the freaking name -> open it.

    Some professionals at Apple think this is better than simple ‘Save as’. 😂

    Yeah - madness. And somehow these geniuses are considered worthy of being paid a fortune. One can only scratch one’s head, lol

  • edited June 2023

    @monz0id said:
    My go-to reverb is the ToneBoosters one. Very natural sounding, with EQ, modulation etc.

    Never got into that one, too slick for me despite it has the modulation options. Funny how personal a reverb can be. :)

  • edited June 2023

    @Slush said:

    @monz0id said:
    My go-to reverb is the ToneBoosters one. Very natural sounding, with EQ, modulation etc.

    Never got into that one, too slick for me despite it has the modulation options. Funny how personal a reverb can be. :)

    I just find it very workmanlike - just does the job, and the EQ really helps.

    I’ve got loads of the things - Eventide, Velvet, UA Tails, I bought Alteza a few weeks back, etc. etc., but most tend to sound fake - good fx, but all with their own characters.

    The TB reverb (to my ears) just sounds more natural, so I’d use that as a reverb, whereas the others more as ‘special’ fx.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    Really? Mine crashes on attempted open. Can't even get it to work. And I've even offloaded and reinstalled it.

    Working fine for me in AUM

    Out of curiosity, did you pay for the full version, or did you just get the free version? I'm wondering if that's the difference... I paid for the full upgrade.

  • The paid version of LL works fine for me in AUM and Loopy Pro

  • @monz0id said:

    @Slush said:

    @monz0id said:
    My go-to reverb is the ToneBoosters one. Very natural sounding, with EQ, modulation etc.

    Never got into that one, too slick for me despite it has the modulation options. Funny how personal a reverb can be. :)

    I just find it very workmanlike - just does the job, and the EQ really helps.

    I’ve got loads of the things - Eventide, Velvet, UA Tails, I bought Alteza a few weeks back, etc. etc., but most tend to sound fake - good fx, but all with their own characters.

    The TB reverb (to my ears) just sounds more natural, so I’d use that as a reverb, whereas the others more as ‘special’ fx.

    I think Fabfilter Pro R is a really nice choice for natural sounding. I have tone boosters and remember it being good but for some reason never really started using it regularly

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    Really? Mine crashes on attempted open. Can't even get it to work. And I've even offloaded and reinstalled it.

    Working fine for me in AUM

    Out of curiosity, did you pay for the full version, or did you just get the free version? I'm wondering if that's the difference... I paid for the full upgrade.

    I have the full upgrade, yes

  • @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    Really? Mine crashes on attempted open. Can't even get it to work. And I've even offloaded and reinstalled it.

    Working fine for me in AUM

    Out of curiosity, did you pay for the full version, or did you just get the free version? I'm wondering if that's the difference... I paid for the full upgrade.

    Mine is free version. Working fine.

  • Thanks for all the great feedback. I figured they were both great in their own right, each with some unique qualities.

  • @monz0id said:
    My go-to reverb is the ToneBoosters one. Very natural sounding, with EQ, modulation etc.

    That’s another good one I own.

  • @Luxthor said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    Really? Mine crashes on attempted open. Can't even get it to work. And I've even offloaded and reinstalled it.

    Working fine for me in AUM

    Out of curiosity, did you pay for the full version, or did you just get the free version? I'm wondering if that's the difference... I paid for the full upgrade.

    Mine is free version. Working fine.

    I believe the only difference, if my memory serves me, was the ability to sync the delay. I remember it was only one feature but it was like $20.

  • @Poppadocrock said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    Really? Mine crashes on attempted open. Can't even get it to work. And I've even offloaded and reinstalled it.

    Working fine for me in AUM

    Out of curiosity, did you pay for the full version, or did you just get the free version? I'm wondering if that's the difference... I paid for the full upgrade.

    Mine is free version. Working fine.

    I believe the only difference, if my memory serves me, was the ability to sync the delay. I remember it was only one feature but it was like $20.

    Yes, that's right. I think it was $19.99 or $24.99... something like that.

  • One difference I remember was that you only got the 3rd plate delay in the paid version.

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    Really? Mine crashes on attempted open. Can't even get it to work. And I've even offloaded and reinstalled it.

    Working fine for me in AUM

    Out of curiosity, did you pay for the full version, or did you just get the free version? I'm wondering if that's the difference... I paid for the full upgrade.

    Mine is free version. Working fine.

    I believe the only difference, if my memory serves me, was the ability to sync the delay. I remember it was only one feature but it was like $20.

  • I couldn’t find LL in the App Store. I removed it for space.

  • @Poppadocrock said:
    I couldn’t find LL in the App Store. I removed it for space.

    It's gone

  • edited June 2023

    @Gavinski said:

    @Poppadocrock said:
    I couldn’t find LL in the App Store. I removed it for space.

    It's gone

    Yep. It and the developer left the App Store. Since I cannot use it I'm considering requesting a refund from Apple.

    UPDATE: Apple not cooperating on the refund. And it was $9.99 for the full version apparently.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Poppadocrock said:
    I couldn’t find LL in the App Store. I removed it for space.

    It's gone

    Thanks for confirming. Maybe in previous purchases or something but it’s been awhile.

  • @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    Yeah it was cool while it lasted!

    I think I still have it installed…

    Wow, it still works, and so far, works fine in Logic!

    Really? Mine crashes on attempted open. Can't even get it to work. And I've even offloaded and reinstalled it.

    Working fine for me in AUM

    Out of curiosity, did you pay for the full version, or did you just get the free version? I'm wondering if that's the difference... I paid for the full upgrade.

    I have the paid version as well. Working fine as of todays date.

  • I think Cascade is more fun to play with. I like it's sound slightly better than Blackhole. I also love the GUI design of Cascade MUCH better than Blackhole.

  • @NeuM said:
    Anyone remember... Lunar Lander? That was a real opportunity missed by the developer.

    I still use it! Do wish the dev could’ve seen it through though. One of the best effects we’ve had on iOS, imo.

  • @skiphunt said:
    I think Cascade is more fun to play with. I like it's sound slightly better than Blackhole. I also love the GUI design of Cascade MUCH better than Blackhole.

    maybe it's more fun, but it definitely doesn't sound better)

  • @KMTGN said:

    @skiphunt said:
    I think Cascade is more fun to play with. I like it's sound slightly better than Blackhole. I also love the GUI design of Cascade MUCH better than Blackhole.

    maybe it's more fun, but it definitely doesn't sound better)

    I beg to differ.

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