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Probably not a big factor, but also take into account that people buy it on iPad but use on iPhone. I use my iPhone probably 70% of the time cos it’s always with me. When I use my ipad it’s when I’ve sat down for a proper session. Any spare minute I have, can be spent tweaking the current song I’m working on in loopy pro, but only if the apps work on iPhone and iPad.
I guess this is covered by the ‘courtesy for your users’ bit though.
If you haven't already, you might want to explore the different ways you can configure the iPad keyboard. Not many people realize these are available.
But yes, typing on the iPad is a pain. I pack around this nice little folding Bluetooth keyboard and just quickly unfold it whenever I need to do any serious typing on the iPad. It pairs almost instantly and the annoying onscreen keyboard is out of the way. Charge lasts me for weeks or months and it's been reliable for the seven (!) years I've owned it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EHSLFAY/
I can totally understand why developers don't always want to deal with the iPhone. Apple has made it hugely time consuming and maintenance intensive with all the different aspect ratios, notches, etc they keep introducing.
That said, if an app is iPad only and doesn't sound like it's going to get an iPhone version, I am less likely to buy it unless it's something I really want. I rarely use iPhone for music but it's just one of those things that reduces the value proposition a little, often enough so that I pass on the impulse buy.
I don't know if others are like me in this. But dynamic that isn't reflected in purchase trends for iPad vs. iPhone that have been mentioned by developers.
I only like using Ableton Note and Koala for music making on my phone when my iPad is not nearby. I feel Ableton Note is perfect for iPhone. Screen size makes a big difference. Best iPhone music apps utilize the iPhone layout to its advantage and designing well for a smaller screen can be challenging/time consuming and still not work out in the end.
I think the real question is why are apps iPhone only.
I’m not the guy you’re replying to but thanks for this. I’ve been looking for a small portable BT keyboard. This is perfect.
What apps are iPhone only?
Have a look. You'll find plenty.
A lot of the iPhone only apps I have do work on iPad they just don’t scale properly. Then apps like patterning and SM1 for iPhone.
I use a Bluetooth Chinese Magic Keyboard knock off for any serious typing and absolutely LOVE it. The onscreen keyboard is crap in comparison, I can work massively faster with the Bluetooth keyboard and it has back-light which I love. The downside is it is heavy (as is the real Magic Keyboard).
Plus you have the track pad, which can be more ergonomic in certain circumstances and at least allows you to change things up, which is key for avoiding rsi etc.
And you have keyboard shortcuts for apps that support them, which can be massive time savers. Even just for copy and paste etc, and the general apple shortcuts, an external keyboard will massively improve your iOS quality of life.
External keyboards for iPad rock in my opinion. I also really enjoy using a Bluetooth mouse from time to time.
I can’t help wondering why Klevgrand’s Esspresso isn’t universal. It seems to tick most of the boxes:
I used to want to install everything on my phone, just in case I felt like making a track while waiting at the DMV or something
Since adopting Logic on iPad, I’ve actually deleted everything on my phone except GarageBand. That still covers the DMV use case and offers an easy path to move work into Logic, and for that sort of idea-sketching stuff the built-in patches are fine. It’s cool that I can install so many awesome apps, but the usability of many of them just isn’t there for me.
It’s a total mystery why they have ported some but not others. But no doubt they see some stats that we don’t and have the key.
Chris Randall recently pulled a few apps from iPhone and said they’ll be pulling more (iirc) as time goes on so that is no doubt to do with supporting the different screen sizes.
Personally I like to have both running concurrently. I’ll set the iPhone to dl some new samples I’ve found or to handle transfers between iCloud and Dropbox (Although this isn’t always straightforward on mobile - when in doubt zip), and also for example to import a load of exs instruments to Audiolayer (again, not always straightforward).
Meanwhile I save the iPad to do the important thing.
(Which is to watch Succesion while the iPhone does the work.)
Phone schmone.
What really frosts my cookies is the lack of iWatch support. I mean c'mon even Apple couldn't be bothered to bring out Logic Pro on their own damn watch. 👿
Good point. I want access to a DAW at all times, even when I’m on a run.
Looooool
“Honey that’s great, keep doing that. Honey? Are you listening? Wait what the hell is that on your watch is that a filter cut-off? Are you serious? Get the hell out of my bed,” “ OK babe just got to finish this edit one sec.”
“Lemme just check the time really quick” 4 hours later after finishing a whole track in Logic for iWatch “wait what time is it again?”
For me it's the auto repair shop situation. 😂 I tried to do the iPhone at the auto repair shop, and it made me want to upgrade to a new iPhone with longer battery despite nothing being inherently wrong with my current 2nd Gen iPhone SE.
I finally purchased an iPad Mini 6 last month. The real test will come this evening when I take a friend bowling. My friend isn't able to drive, and I'm unable to bowl worth a darn. 🤣 So guess who'll have a couple hours and a pint on their hands.
“Honey you’ve been in the toilet for over two hours! We don’t get to see my parents that often, are you ok in there?”
notches the bass at 33 again, still doesn’t sound like Alex Reece
“One sec honey I almost have the bass from Flat Beat perfect” I love it
My Best guess is screen size, vs. how much the app has on the gui.
Loooooolll in stitches
Update - I took my Mini 6 to the bowling alley. My mate Kevin had a blast as did I. I couldn't be faffed with a pint this time as I had a couple slices of the free pizza and had free soda, got to work, and microsampled three songs (this time royalty-free from EpidemicSound.com) for my latest track which is a collab between me and one of our good mates here!
Oddly enough, the track was to be TripHop, but my mate recorded his vocals and lead guitar at 105bpm which is too fast (in my opinion) for TripHop, and too slow to be double time in terms of TripHop. 🤣 So I turned it into another Justice-styled track, and it sounds amazing! Just you wait mates.
Who doesn’t want any FabFilter plug-in cramped into a tiny iPhone screen? 😂 It still perplexed me what Steinberg achieved, releasing Cubasis 3 on iPad and iPhone (and even Android). We still don’t have Apple Pencil for iPhone 😅
iOS music making obviously started on the iPhone, but evolved to the iPad. More people wanted to create music on a laptop replacement at home than on their iPhone on the go. There is still a lot that can be done on an iPhone for those who have the drive to create on the go (bus, subway, lunch breaks, etc.) since there are way more high quality music creation tools today for iPhones than before the iPad came out. I think it’s all part of Apple’s plan to get us hooked with iPhones, entice us with iPads, knowing we’ll eventually succumb one day to getting a MacBook.
Professional musicians and aspiring ones use iPads because it is like a mini computer, with a keyboard, pencil, and now you can hook usb c hardware directly without an interface or adapter.
But counter to my argument the best DAW and most of the best apps tend to be universal , except apps that are again really geared for aspiring pro
That my guess along with whatever Bram Brios says, since he’s a master dev
It seems like bad business to me because far more people have and use iPhones... speaking as an iOS app dev for 10 years now. But interesting to see that even brambos's experience with nicely designed iPhone apps sees the reverse of other app categories. I would guess that any music app that can break out of more niche musician / online "forum" type audiences and reach other more general audiences, would see iPhone do much better than iPad in sales/usage, if designed well for iPhone of course.
When I use an iPhone for music, there are only a handful of apps that I use for music…the user experience is very fiddly with the exception being apps designed with a small screen in mind. And while many devs adapt there u.I.s for iPhone , very few are really enjoyable. The exceptions seem to be apps designed with the small screen in mind from the get-go.
While there are lots more phones than iPads that doesn’t translate to proportionate more people that spend money on music creation apps on the phone.
I use iPhone for music together with other very small battery powered or USB powered devices. Maybe it depends more on external devices than iPad does.
I honestly find that with the right app I can work lightning fast on the phone.
The reason? The smaller screen and lighter weight makes playing and typing easier!
You’ve got the equivalent of one of those Casio fold out game watch style jobs that Teenage engineering cribbed for their app.
My friend wrote an lp on one of those and it’s out now on John Frusciante’s label!
https://evar-records.bandcamp.com/album/microjunglizm
The iPads differ in size but Bluetooth keyboards and you’re talking about a laptop effectively so just use a MacBook Air which can run all the other software you need.