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If you had to pick one vocal plugin/FX - what is your favorite vocal auv3?

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    @ehehehe said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @ehehehe said:
    If you use a dynamic mic there's no need for a noise remover, and why use this over a gate? It doesn't dull or color the sound? I would put some effort into the physical space, lots of platinum records have been recorded with a shure sm58 under a blanket halfway inside a closet filled with clothes.

    I know the 58 is better for vocals but how do you feel about the 57 for vocals?

    Idk, never tried it. It's the exactly same capsule, but with more handling noise since it's for instruments. Also the grille on sm58 is made to reduce plosives in vocals. You can easily screw off the head and mod/use your 58 to be more like a 57, not so much the other way around.

    Unless the vocalist is a screamy bloke I’d try the sE V7 as seen all over the stages at Glastonbury this weekend gone. [Edit: and cheaper even]

    I’ll also second MixBox for the LA2A, 1176, etc.

  • @fearandloathing said:

    @ehehehe said:
    If you use a dynamic mic there's no need for a noise remover, and why use this over a gate? It doesn't dull or color the sound? I would put some effort into the physical space, lots of platinum records have been recorded with a shure sm58 under a blanket halfway inside a closet filled with clothes.

    I know the 58 is better for vocals but how do you feel about the 57 for vocals?

    @Gavinski said:
    Oh.... And don't forget this one!

    https://apps.apple.com/app/molochvox/id1569682849


    Brilliant! Cheap too

    I think you got my winner for now; I’m gonna wait a couple of weeks to see how sales go, otherwise it’s between bleass, TB and Moloch

    If you want something experimental, it's probably hard to beat moloch, it's just so crazy

  • edited June 2023

    @ehehehe said:
    FF Pro-DS. A good de-esser is a must in any vocal chain imho and i guess Toneboosters makes an almost as good one for cheaper.

    How are you finding the latency on this?
    I’m only asking because I used to use their equaliser and barricade on the main mix for real time live processing and found that it added perceivable latency and I had to use alternatives.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @ehehehe said:
    If you use a dynamic mic there's no need for a noise remover, and why use this over a gate? It doesn't dull or color the sound? I would put some effort into the physical space, lots of platinum records have been recorded with a shure sm58 under a blanket halfway inside a closet filled with clothes.

    I know the 58 is better for vocals but how do you feel about the 57 for vocals?

    @Gavinski said:
    Oh.... And don't forget this one!

    https://apps.apple.com/app/molochvox/id1569682849


    Brilliant! Cheap too

    I think you got my winner for now; I’m gonna wait a couple of weeks to see how sales go, otherwise it’s between bleass, TB and Moloch

    If you want something experimental, it's probably hard to beat moloch, it's just so crazy

    I recently got Moloch and it’s fantastic. It’s blown my mind a few times now.

  • edited June 2023

    Yes : I went for Moloch as it had sort of what TB had but I didn’t like TB voice shifter SFM video (Couldbe been that particular demo , idk, but it didn’t impress like Moloch and Slow Machine

    (Finger cross. Bleass jumps into summer sale)

  • edited June 2023

    Actually Turnado is on sale

    I’m thinking Moloch + Turnado would be all I needed and then some more extra

  • Turnado is fucking awesome

  • @Fingolfinzz said:
    Turnado is fucking awesome

    Yeah, uh MIND BLOWN :astonished:
    What this thing does CHANGES iOS and music production landscape
    For me anyway

    Im SOOOOOOO happy I waited for Turnado on the hunch SUGARBYTES would do a summer sale

    I’m tempted but I’ll wait before I get anything else for a while

    What a summer so far iOS wiser

  • @fearandloathing said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Turnado is fucking awesome

    Yeah, uh MIND BLOWN :astonished:
    What this thing does CHANGES iOS and music production landscape
    For me anyway

    Im SOOOOOOO happy I waited for Turnado on the hunch SUGARBYTES would do a summer sale

    I’m tempted but I’ll wait before I get anything else for a while

    What a summer so far iOS wiser

    Don't miss Looperator!

    It's so much deeper and more versatile than it seems at first sight, and hella nicer UI than Turnado!

  • edited June 2023

    @Gavinski said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Turnado is fucking awesome

    Yeah, uh MIND BLOWN :astonished:
    What this thing does CHANGES iOS and music production landscape
    For me anyway

    Im SOOOOOOO happy I waited for Turnado on the hunch SUGARBYTES would do a summer sale

    I’m tempted but I’ll wait before I get anything else for a while

    What a summer so far iOS wiser

    Don't miss Looperator!

    It's so much deeper and more versatile than it seems at first sight, and hella nicer UI than Turnado!

    I didnt forget at all. In fact, I take your suggestions as seriously as I do wim and dendy. You know your iOS stuff for sure.

    What made me go with Turnado was I was actually slightly intimidated with the sequencer of Looperator, I’m not used to sampling and slicing [I looked at sEGments from Elliot garage but i that similarly)…. Im concerned that recording as I do IN LOOP MODE would make it harder for me because I play my midi keyboard with my hands (i dont ever use my pencil. Unless its for a correction) and I presumption is that Looperator would need to operate more in a timeline fashion so i was concerned my workflow and process would not jive with the Looperator format; but i can be wrong [the UI does look much better]., with Turnado its more on the fly automation recording per loop/song part

    What do you think?

  • If you really want to get out into the wilds, and aren’t afraid of diving into a rabbit hole (I’d make sure you have the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch* with you), MiRack will let you go to places other apps won’t. Pipe your vocals through an envelope follower and use the CV to control whatever you want. A simple starter idea: output the CV as a MIDI CC and use it to control the big knob in Filterjam. As your vocal gets louder it will open up the filter (or invert it and close it down). You could also use a pitch to MIDI tool like MIDImorphosis, send the pitch data into MiRack, convert it to CV then pipe that CV out as MIDI CC to control whatever, based on the pitch you’re singing.

    You get the idea, hopefully. You don’t have to process the vocal audio in MiRack itself (though it’s fun doing that, too), but using it to turn loudness and pitch into CC to control just about anything has huge possibilities.

    • Monty Python and the Holy Grail reference, for the uninitiated.
  • edited June 2023

    Looperator is one of my favorites . Definitely under discussed and underrated in terms of how versatile it is imo but it did take me some time using the demo version to understand it then I purchased and it feels really easy now

    @Gavinski said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Turnado is fucking awesome

    Yeah, uh MIND BLOWN :astonished:
    What this thing does CHANGES iOS and music production landscape
    For me anyway

    Im SOOOOOOO happy I waited for Turnado on the hunch SUGARBYTES would do a summer sale

    I’m tempted but I’ll wait before I get anything else for a while

    What a summer so far iOS wiser

    Don't miss Looperator!

    It's so much deeper and more versatile than it seems at first sight, and hella nicer UI than Turnado!

  • @fearandloathing said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Turnado is fucking awesome

    Yeah, uh MIND BLOWN :astonished:
    What this thing does CHANGES iOS and music production landscape
    For me anyway

    Im SOOOOOOO happy I waited for Turnado on the hunch SUGARBYTES would do a summer sale

    I’m tempted but I’ll wait before I get anything else for a while

    What a summer so far iOS wiser

    Don't miss Looperator!

    It's so much deeper and more versatile than it seems at first sight, and hella nicer UI than Turnado!

    I didnt forget at all. In fact, I take your suggestions as seriously as I do wim and dendy. You know your iOS stuff for sure.

    What made me go with Turnado was I was actually slightly intimidated with the sequencer of Looperator, I’m not used to sampling and slicing [I looked at sEGments from Elliot garage but i that similarly)…. Im concerned that recording as I do IN LOOP MODE would make it harder for me because I play my midi keyboard with my hands (i dont ever use my pencil. Unless its for a correction) and I presumption is that Looperator would need to operate more in a timeline fashion so i was concerned my workflow and process would not jive with the Looperator format; but i can be wrong [the UI does look much better]., with Turnado its more on the fly automation recording per loop/song part

    What do you think?

    Looperator only adds FX to your music, so whether you play live, record things on a timeline or whatever is not remotely relevant. It also has very customizable randomiser functions for every lane, so you can get all kinds of interesting results from it very quickly. Maybe I’m reading your message wrong, but I feel you might have some conceptual misunderstanding about the way Looperator works - my vid would definitely clear that up if it is indeed the case. Or maybe I missed your point somehow.

  • @bygjohn said:
    If you really want to get out into the wilds, and aren’t afraid of diving into a rabbit hole (I’d make sure you have the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch* with you), MiRack will let you go to places other apps won’t. Pipe your vocals through an envelope follower and use the CV to control whatever you want. A simple starter idea: output the CV as a MIDI CC and use it to control the big knob in Filterjam. As your vocal gets louder it will open up the filter (or invert it and close it down). You could also use a pitch to MIDI tool like MIDImorphosis, send the pitch data into MiRack, convert it to CV then pipe that CV out as MIDI CC to control whatever, based on the pitch you’re singing.

    You get the idea, hopefully. You don’t have to process the vocal audio in MiRack itself (though it’s fun doing that, too), but using it to turn loudness and pitch into CC to control just about anything has huge possibilities.

    • Monty Python and the Holy Grail reference, for the uninitiated.

    Cool idea

    @shirbeats said:
    Looperator is one of my favorites . Definitely under discussed and underrated in terms of how versatile it is imo but it did take me some time using the demo version to understand it then I purchased and it feels really easy now

    @Gavinski said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Turnado is fucking awesome

    Yeah, uh MIND BLOWN :astonished:
    What this thing does CHANGES iOS and music production landscape
    For me anyway

    Im SOOOOOOO happy I waited for Turnado on the hunch SUGARBYTES would do a summer sale

    I’m tempted but I’ll wait before I get anything else for a while

    What a summer so far iOS wiser

    Don't miss Looperator!

    It's so much deeper and more versatile than it seems at first sight, and hella nicer UI than Turnado!

    @Gavinski said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Turnado is fucking awesome

    Yeah, uh MIND BLOWN :astonished:
    What this thing does CHANGES iOS and music production landscape
    For me anyway

    Im SOOOOOOO happy I waited for Turnado on the hunch SUGARBYTES would do a summer sale

    I’m tempted but I’ll wait before I get anything else for a while

    What a summer so far iOS wiser

    Don't miss Looperator!

    It's so much deeper and more versatile than it seems at first sight, and hella nicer UI than Turnado!

    I didnt forget at all. In fact, I take your suggestions as seriously as I do wim and dendy. You know your iOS stuff for sure.

    What made me go with Turnado was I was actually slightly intimidated with the sequencer of Looperator, I’m not used to sampling and slicing [I looked at sEGments from Elliot garage but i that similarly)…. Im concerned that recording as I do IN LOOP MODE would make it harder for me because I play my midi keyboard with my hands (i dont ever use my pencil. Unless its for a correction) and I presumption is that Looperator would need to operate more in a timeline fashion so i was concerned my workflow and process would not jive with the Looperator format; but i can be wrong [the UI does look much better]., with Turnado its more on the fly automation recording per loop/song part

    What do you think?

    Looperator only adds FX to your music, so whether you play live, record things on a timeline or whatever is not remotely relevant. It also has very customizable randomiser functions for every lane, so you can get all kinds of interesting results from it very quickly. Maybe I’m reading your message wrong, but I feel you might have some conceptual misunderstanding about the way Looperator works - my vid would definitely clear that up if it is indeed the case. Or maybe I missed your point somehow.

    Always watch your vids
    I get thrown off by AUM
    What I’m saying is if I’m recording in a DAW and I want to automate rather than “sequence n” ? Is that clearer or am I wrong about the knobs and Turnado ?

  • @fearandloathing said:

    @bygjohn said:
    If you really want to get out into the wilds, and aren’t afraid of diving into a rabbit hole (I’d make sure you have the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch* with you), MiRack will let you go to places other apps won’t. Pipe your vocals through an envelope follower and use the CV to control whatever you want. A simple starter idea: output the CV as a MIDI CC and use it to control the big knob in Filterjam. As your vocal gets louder it will open up the filter (or invert it and close it down). You could also use a pitch to MIDI tool like MIDImorphosis, send the pitch data into MiRack, convert it to CV then pipe that CV out as MIDI CC to control whatever, based on the pitch you’re singing.

    You get the idea, hopefully. You don’t have to process the vocal audio in MiRack itself (though it’s fun doing that, too), but using it to turn loudness and pitch into CC to control just about anything has huge possibilities.

    • Monty Python and the Holy Grail reference, for the uninitiated.

    Cool idea

    @shirbeats said:
    Looperator is one of my favorites . Definitely under discussed and underrated in terms of how versatile it is imo but it did take me some time using the demo version to understand it then I purchased and it feels really easy now

    @Gavinski said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Turnado is fucking awesome

    Yeah, uh MIND BLOWN :astonished:
    What this thing does CHANGES iOS and music production landscape
    For me anyway

    Im SOOOOOOO happy I waited for Turnado on the hunch SUGARBYTES would do a summer sale

    I’m tempted but I’ll wait before I get anything else for a while

    What a summer so far iOS wiser

    Don't miss Looperator!

    It's so much deeper and more versatile than it seems at first sight, and hella nicer UI than Turnado!

    @Gavinski said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Turnado is fucking awesome

    Yeah, uh MIND BLOWN :astonished:
    What this thing does CHANGES iOS and music production landscape
    For me anyway

    Im SOOOOOOO happy I waited for Turnado on the hunch SUGARBYTES would do a summer sale

    I’m tempted but I’ll wait before I get anything else for a while

    What a summer so far iOS wiser

    Don't miss Looperator!

    It's so much deeper and more versatile than it seems at first sight, and hella nicer UI than Turnado!

    I didnt forget at all. In fact, I take your suggestions as seriously as I do wim and dendy. You know your iOS stuff for sure.

    What made me go with Turnado was I was actually slightly intimidated with the sequencer of Looperator, I’m not used to sampling and slicing [I looked at sEGments from Elliot garage but i that similarly)…. Im concerned that recording as I do IN LOOP MODE would make it harder for me because I play my midi keyboard with my hands (i dont ever use my pencil. Unless its for a correction) and I presumption is that Looperator would need to operate more in a timeline fashion so i was concerned my workflow and process would not jive with the Looperator format; but i can be wrong [the UI does look much better]., with Turnado its more on the fly automation recording per loop/song part

    What do you think?

    Looperator only adds FX to your music, so whether you play live, record things on a timeline or whatever is not remotely relevant. It also has very customizable randomiser functions for every lane, so you can get all kinds of interesting results from it very quickly. Maybe I’m reading your message wrong, but I feel you might have some conceptual misunderstanding about the way Looperator works - my vid would definitely clear that up if it is indeed the case. Or maybe I missed your point somehow.

    Always watch your vids
    I get thrown off by AUM
    What I’m saying is if I’m recording in a DAW and I want to automate rather than “sequence n” ? Is that clearer or am I wrong about the knobs and Turnado ?

    Ah ok, I get you now, not sure really, maybe you'd just need to time the start of your playing right?

  • edited June 2023

    I returned looperator but its probably good.

    With turnado. Its just a case of a midi controller and per instance. To have an effects chain via midi. More for live and also record automation.

    I guess the mid point. Is looperator might work like scatterbrain when applying effects but dosent seem direct control and probably more repetitive, even after programming in advance.

    You still sort turnado in advance but isnt applied until you move knobs.

    You can either audio record knob movement for it to be an audio stem.

    Or automate the knob movement to edit the fx automation.

  • If sequenced based effects. Not sure how you would sing through effect. Without the fx sequencer dictate what you sing.

    I guess it might work bar wise.

  • @ehehehe said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @ehehehe said:
    If you use a dynamic mic there's no need for a noise remover, and why use this over a gate? It doesn't dull or color the sound? I would put some effort into the physical space, lots of platinum records have been recorded with a shure sm58 under a blanket halfway inside a closet filled with clothes.

    I know the 58 is better for vocals but how do you feel about the 57 for vocals?

    Idk, never tried it. It's the exactly same capsule, but with more handling noise since it's for instruments. Also the grille on sm58 is made to reduce plosives in vocals. You can easily screw off the head and mod/use your 58 to be more like a 57, not so much the other way around.

    Yes, most people don’t realize that the pop filter is the only real difference.

  • edited June 2023

    @sigma79 said:
    If sequenced based effects. Not sure how you would sing through effect. Without the fx sequencer dictate what you sing.

    I guess it might work bar wise.

    @sigma79 said:
    I returned looperator but its probably good.

    With turnado. Its just a case of a midi controller and per instance. To have an effects chain via midi. More for live and also record automation.

    I guess the mid point. Is looperator might work like scatterbrain when applying effects but dosent seem direct control and probably more repetitive, even after programming in advance.

    You still sort turnado in advance but isnt applied until you move knobs.

    You can either audio record knob movement for it to be an audio stem.

    Or automate the knob movement to edit the fx automation.

    Exactly what I was trying to say without ability to articulate . All the points : audio, on the fly, midi knob controlled ,etc

    Thanks for clarifying sigma

    @michael_m said:

    @ehehehe said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @ehehehe said:
    If you use a dynamic mic there's no need for a noise remover, and why use this over a gate? It doesn't dull or color the sound? I would put some effort into the physical space, lots of platinum records have been recorded with a shure sm58 under a blanket halfway inside a closet filled with clothes.

    I know the 58 is better for vocals but how do you feel about the 57 for vocals?

    Idk, never tried it. It's the exactly same capsule, but with more handling noise since it's for instruments. Also the grille on sm58 is made to reduce plosives in vocals. You can easily screw off the head and mod/use your 58 to be more like a 57, not so much the other way around.

    Yes, most people don’t realize that the pop filter is the only real difference.

    Just a pop filter??, I have two of those externally ; so it’s just to have it for live performance if you don’t have pop filters ; ok thanks Michael n heheh

  • @shirbeats said:
    Looperator is one of my favorites . Definitely under discussed and underrated in terms of how versatile it is imo but it did take me some time using the demo version to understand it then I purchased and it feels really easy now

    @Gavinski said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Turnado is fucking awesome

    Yeah, uh MIND BLOWN :astonished:
    What this thing does CHANGES iOS and music production landscape
    For me anyway

    Im SOOOOOOO happy I waited for Turnado on the hunch SUGARBYTES would do a summer sale

    I’m tempted but I’ll wait before I get anything else for a while

    What a summer so far iOS wiser

    Don't miss Looperator!

    It's so much deeper and more versatile than it seems at first sight, and hella nicer UI than Turnado!

    What’s the regular price for Looperator unlock?. It’s currently 17,99€ and it says “summer sale”… I checked appslice but can’t compare the iap.

  • The user and all related content has been deleted.
  • @ehehehe said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @sigma79 said:
    If sequenced based effects. Not sure how you would sing through effect. Without the fx sequencer dictate what you sing.

    I guess it might work bar wise.

    @sigma79 said:
    I returned looperator but its probably good.

    With turnado. Its just a case of a midi controller and per instance. To have an effects chain via midi. More for live and also record automation.

    I guess the mid point. Is looperator might work like scatterbrain when applying effects but dosent seem direct control and probably more repetitive, even after programming in advance.

    You still sort turnado in advance but isnt applied until you move knobs.

    You can either audio record knob movement for it to be an audio stem.

    Or automate the knob movement to edit the fx automation.

    Exactly what I was trying to say without ability to articulate . All the points : audio, on the fly, midi knob controlled ,etc

    Thanks for clarifying sigma

    @michael_m said:

    @ehehehe said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @ehehehe said:
    If you use a dynamic mic there's no need for a noise remover, and why use this over a gate? It doesn't dull or color the sound? I would put some effort into the physical space, lots of platinum records have been recorded with a shure sm58 under a blanket halfway inside a closet filled with clothes.

    I know the 58 is better for vocals but how do you feel about the 57 for vocals?

    Idk, never tried it. It's the exactly same capsule, but with more handling noise since it's for instruments. Also the grille on sm58 is made to reduce plosives in vocals. You can easily screw off the head and mod/use your 58 to be more like a 57, not so much the other way around.

    Yes, most people don’t realize that the pop filter is the only real difference.

    Just a pop filter??, I have two of those externally ; so it’s just to have it for live performance if you don’t have pop filters ; ok thanks Michael n heheh

    No, the capsule is also more insulated against handling noise because of a different mounting mechanism

    I did a lot of checking and you’re all right.

    Last question is there anything like MolochVox that does pitch shift, harmonizing and freezing?

    I think TB voice pitcher does some, and Bleass slow motion, but is there anything else like that , whcih is Not sequence/r based…meaning turning knobs on and off etc

  • @fearandloathing said:

    @ehehehe said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @sigma79 said:
    If sequenced based effects. Not sure how you would sing through effect. Without the fx sequencer dictate what you sing.

    I guess it might work bar wise.

    @sigma79 said:
    I returned looperator but its probably good.

    With turnado. Its just a case of a midi controller and per instance. To have an effects chain via midi. More for live and also record automation.

    I guess the mid point. Is looperator might work like scatterbrain when applying effects but dosent seem direct control and probably more repetitive, even after programming in advance.

    You still sort turnado in advance but isnt applied until you move knobs.

    You can either audio record knob movement for it to be an audio stem.

    Or automate the knob movement to edit the fx automation.

    Exactly what I was trying to say without ability to articulate . All the points : audio, on the fly, midi knob controlled ,etc

    Thanks for clarifying sigma

    @michael_m said:

    @ehehehe said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @ehehehe said:
    If you use a dynamic mic there's no need for a noise remover, and why use this over a gate? It doesn't dull or color the sound? I would put some effort into the physical space, lots of platinum records have been recorded with a shure sm58 under a blanket halfway inside a closet filled with clothes.

    I know the 58 is better for vocals but how do you feel about the 57 for vocals?

    Idk, never tried it. It's the exactly same capsule, but with more handling noise since it's for instruments. Also the grille on sm58 is made to reduce plosives in vocals. You can easily screw off the head and mod/use your 58 to be more like a 57, not so much the other way around.

    Yes, most people don’t realize that the pop filter is the only real difference.

    Just a pop filter??, I have two of those externally ; so it’s just to have it for live performance if you don’t have pop filters ; ok thanks Michael n heheh

    No, the capsule is also more insulated against handling noise because of a different mounting mechanism

    I did a lot of checking and you’re all right.

    Last question is there anything like MolochVox that does pitch shift, harmonizing and freezing?

    I think TB voice pitcher does some, and Bleass slow motion, but is there anything else like that , whcih is Not sequence/r based…meaning turning knobs on and off etc

    I don't know if Bleass Voices has freezing, but there are some ios reverbs that will freeze. Eos is one. Bleass does on desktop; not sure about the ios version.

  • edited July 2023

    TB voice pitcher FTw
    It had everything I wanted and it’s TB!!

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