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Is it just me … Xynthesizr is still amazing!

I have always loved this app and the synth engine in it sounds like the only SH101 on IOS. There’s just something very special about this app. The sound is deep and the fox are interesting .The big disappointment is it’s still not an AUv3 or does it have any new development or updates. Why don’t they keep this sequencer and synth combo updated is puzzling…

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  • yep, fantastic app. I once had a tenori-on and this was one of the first synths I bought. So I sold the tenori a few years ago since Xynthesizr is much deeper. and if one doesn‘t like the synth engine you can midi out to synth apps or hardware synths

  • @osKar said:
    yep, fantastic app. I once had a tenori-on and this was one of the first synths I bought. So I sold the tenori a few years ago since Xynthesizr is much deeper. and if one doesn‘t like the synth engine you can midi out to synth apps or hardware synths

    Yeah, it’s a great step sequencer, but also has a cool internal synth. Great for ambient or melodic based music.

  • Let’s not forget about Shoom and Velvet Machine too.

    https://youtu.be/GXMJMR7GJwY

  • And Cascade!

  • edited July 2023

    I haven’t tried that..
    I’m wondering how Shoom works inside AUM since it’s InterApp. Some work well, some crash and are horrid. For example, Patterning 2 is an InterApp, but it works kinda like AUv3.

    Update: I just bought it, so we will see:)

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  • edited July 2023

    @tja said:

    @Antos3345 said:
    I haven’t tried that..
    I’m wondering how Shoom works inside AUM since it’s InterApp. Some work well, some crash and are horrid. For example, Patterning 2 is an InterApp, but it works kinda like AUv3.

    Update: I just bought it, so we will see:)

    Patterning works like an AUv3? 😅
    How so?

    Well, I mean it has multiple outs and works smoothly inside AUM. I found it works much better than other InterApp ,but, Just my opinion.

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  • @tja said:

    @Antos3345 said:

    @tja said:

    @Antos3345 said:
    I haven’t tried that..
    I’m wondering how Shoom works inside AUM since it’s InterApp. Some work well, some crash and are horrid. For example, Patterning 2 is an InterApp, but it works kinda like AUv3.

    Update: I just bought it, so we will see:)

    Patterning works like an AUv3? 😅
    How so?

    Well, I mean it has multiple outs and works smoothly inside AUM. I found it works much better than other InterApp ,but, Just my opinion.

    Lots and lots of IAA Apps have multi-out and work totally smooth within AUM.

    Don't think that Patterning 2 is anything special in this regard, just a normal IAA App.

    I would say that it is a particularly solid and reliable app.

  • It’s a great app! Both the sounds and the sequencer. Unfortunately with Logic Pro it’s not easy to use anymore (I know you can use loopback but it’s still a bit clunky as a workflow).
    The dev has other priorities (Cascade is a great reverb!), hopefully someday he’ll make an AUV3 synth or sequencer.

  • Going forward, if it doesn’t work in Logic Pro, it doesn’t work for me.
    It has to be this way for my workflow

  • Here it is working in AUM.

  • @Antos3345 said:
    Let’s not forget about Shoom and Velvet Machine too.

    https://youtu.be/GXMJMR7GJwY

    SHOOM! SHOOM! SHOOM!

    Pro tip: lock shoom to the same key as your song, and mix it in wet/dry, and it’s fantastic.

  • ZOA Sequencer has somewhat of the Xynthesizr vibe in an AUv3 format.

  • Love Xynthesizr. I sequence all my synths with it and set the tempo slow, constant evolving ambience. I let that run all day while I work.

  • GUBGUB
    edited July 2023

    @Antos3345 said:
    I haven’t tried that..
    I’m wondering how Shoom works inside AUM since it’s InterApp. Some work well, some crash and are horrid. For example, Patterning 2 is an InterApp, but it works kinda like AUv3.

    Update: I just bought it, so we will see:)

    shoom has incredible sounds, a beautiful and playable interface, real depth. If you find the hidden parameter controls underneath and knobs, and rocks called stability. Every time I’ve used it on a UM or Apematrix or what have you. My fave.

  • One of my all-time fav devs! Brilliant

  • @GUB said:

    @Antos3345 said:
    I haven’t tried that..
    I’m wondering how Shoom works inside AUM since it’s InterApp. Some work well, some crash and are horrid. For example, Patterning 2 is an InterApp, but it works kinda like AUv3.

    Update: I just bought it, so we will see:)

    shoom has incredible sounds, a beautiful and playable interface, real depth. If you find the hidden parameter controls underneath and knobs, and rocks called stability. Every time I’ve used it on a UM or Apematrix or what have you. My fave.

    Mine too, it’s a great synth. It’s ok as IAA, at least in aum, as you can set it up so that there are three of them on different tracks and there’s the little button to take you back to aum. It would be great to have several running at the same time, but it’s very useable as is.

  • Xynthesizer is fantastic! I have a close friend that uses it as a sequencer for his hardware a lot and it works great for that, too.

    I have a track on an album I’m working on that uses it quite a bit.

  • @sevenape said:

    @GUB said:

    @Antos3345 said:
    I haven’t tried that..
    I’m wondering how Shoom works inside AUM since it’s InterApp. Some work well, some crash and are horrid. For example, Patterning 2 is an InterApp, but it works kinda like AUv3.

    Update: I just bought it, so we will see:)

    shoom has incredible sounds, a beautiful and playable interface, real depth. If you find the hidden parameter controls underneath and knobs, and rocks called stability. Every time I’ve used it on a UM or Apematrix or what have you. My fave.

    Mine too, it’s a great synth. It’s ok as IAA, at least in aum, as you can set it up so that there are three of them on different tracks and there’s the little button to take you back to aum. It would be great to have several running at the same time, but it’s very useable as is.

    @sevenape said:

    @GUB said:

    @Antos3345 said:
    I haven’t tried that..
    I’m wondering how Shoom works inside AUM since it’s InterApp. Some work well, some crash and are horrid. For example, Patterning 2 is an InterApp, but it works kinda like AUv3.

    Update: I just bought it, so we will see:)

    shoom has incredible sounds, a beautiful and playable interface, real depth. If you find the hidden parameter controls underneath and knobs, and rocks called stability. Every time I’ve used it on a UM or Apematrix or what have you. My fave.

    Mine too, it’s a great synth. It’s ok as IAA, at least in aum, as you can set it up so that there are three of them on different tracks and there’s the little button to take you back to aum. It would be great to have several running at the same time, but it’s very useable as is.

    I should really proof my comments after voice to text. But I hopefully got the gist across. Rock solid stability, deep functionality, great sound. A main counterexample to the "never buy IAA" mindset.

  • @GUB said:

    @sevenape said:

    @GUB said:

    @Antos3345 said:
    I haven’t tried that..
    I’m wondering how Shoom works inside AUM since it’s InterApp. Some work well, some crash and are horrid. For example, Patterning 2 is an InterApp, but it works kinda like AUv3.

    Update: I just bought it, so we will see:)

    shoom has incredible sounds, a beautiful and playable interface, real depth. If you find the hidden parameter controls underneath and knobs, and rocks called stability. Every time I’ve used it on a UM or Apematrix or what have you. My fave.

    Mine too, it’s a great synth. It’s ok as IAA, at least in aum, as you can set it up so that there are three of them on different tracks and there’s the little button to take you back to aum. It would be great to have several running at the same time, but it’s very useable as is.

    @sevenape said:

    @GUB said:

    @Antos3345 said:
    I haven’t tried that..
    I’m wondering how Shoom works inside AUM since it’s InterApp. Some work well, some crash and are horrid. For example, Patterning 2 is an InterApp, but it works kinda like AUv3.

    Update: I just bought it, so we will see:)

    shoom has incredible sounds, a beautiful and playable interface, real depth. If you find the hidden parameter controls underneath and knobs, and rocks called stability. Every time I’ve used it on a UM or Apematrix or what have you. My fave.

    Mine too, it’s a great synth. It’s ok as IAA, at least in aum, as you can set it up so that there are three of them on different tracks and there’s the little button to take you back to aum. It would be great to have several running at the same time, but it’s very useable as is.

    I should really proof my comments after voice to text. But I hopefully got the gist across. Rock solid stability, deep functionality, great sound. A main counterexample to the "never buy IAA" mindset.

    I don’t really buy any new IAA apps since it’s already being done away with by Apple. But I definitely still use all of the ones I have. Xynthesizer included.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @GUB said:

    @sevenape said:

    @GUB said:

    @Antos3345 said:
    I haven’t tried that..
    I’m wondering how Shoom works inside AUM since it’s InterApp. Some work well, some crash and are horrid. For example, Patterning 2 is an InterApp, but it works kinda like AUv3.

    Update: I just bought it, so we will see:)

    shoom has incredible sounds, a beautiful and playable interface, real depth. If you find the hidden parameter controls underneath and knobs, and rocks called stability. Every time I’ve used it on a UM or Apematrix or what have you. My fave.

    Mine too, it’s a great synth. It’s ok as IAA, at least in aum, as you can set it up so that there are three of them on different tracks and there’s the little button to take you back to aum. It would be great to have several running at the same time, but it’s very useable as is.

    @sevenape said:

    @GUB said:

    @Antos3345 said:
    I haven’t tried that..
    I’m wondering how Shoom works inside AUM since it’s InterApp. Some work well, some crash and are horrid. For example, Patterning 2 is an InterApp, but it works kinda like AUv3.

    Update: I just bought it, so we will see:)

    shoom has incredible sounds, a beautiful and playable interface, real depth. If you find the hidden parameter controls underneath and knobs, and rocks called stability. Every time I’ve used it on a UM or Apematrix or what have you. My fave.

    Mine too, it’s a great synth. It’s ok as IAA, at least in aum, as you can set it up so that there are three of them on different tracks and there’s the little button to take you back to aum. It would be great to have several running at the same time, but it’s very useable as is.

    I should really proof my comments after voice to text. But I hopefully got the gist across. Rock solid stability, deep functionality, great sound. A main counterexample to the "never buy IAA" mindset.

    I don’t really buy any new IAA apps since it’s already being done away with by Apple. But I definitely still use all of the ones I have. Xynthesizer included.

    Understood. But what exactly does done away with mean, as far as you understand? There are four or five year old threads here that are predicting the imminent disappearance of IAA. Do you think Apple will allow IAA apps to be sold up to the very day that their OS no longer permits the technology to work? Maybe they would, but I'd be a little surprised.

    The way I see it, I'd rather spend 10 bucks on an app that is legendary for being one of the best implementations of the ipad for music knowing that it would last no more than a year, than on an app with mixed reviews that might last five years. Because I will get my moneys worth in enjoyment a lot quicker.

    Shoom and many other IAA apps have no equivalent even ten or so years after their release. With rapidly advancing tech, I seriously doubt that, for example, Butter Synth will remain unequalled in the next decade. But who knows.

  • @GUB said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @GUB said:

    @sevenape said:

    @GUB said:

    @Antos3345 said:
    I haven’t tried that..
    I’m wondering how Shoom works inside AUM since it’s InterApp. Some work well, some crash and are horrid. For example, Patterning 2 is an InterApp, but it works kinda like AUv3.

    Update: I just bought it, so we will see:)

    shoom has incredible sounds, a beautiful and playable interface, real depth. If you find the hidden parameter controls underneath and knobs, and rocks called stability. Every time I’ve used it on a UM or Apematrix or what have you. My fave.

    Mine too, it’s a great synth. It’s ok as IAA, at least in aum, as you can set it up so that there are three of them on different tracks and there’s the little button to take you back to aum. It would be great to have several running at the same time, but it’s very useable as is.

    @sevenape said:

    @GUB said:

    @Antos3345 said:
    I haven’t tried that..
    I’m wondering how Shoom works inside AUM since it’s InterApp. Some work well, some crash and are horrid. For example, Patterning 2 is an InterApp, but it works kinda like AUv3.

    Update: I just bought it, so we will see:)

    shoom has incredible sounds, a beautiful and playable interface, real depth. If you find the hidden parameter controls underneath and knobs, and rocks called stability. Every time I’ve used it on a UM or Apematrix or what have you. My fave.

    Mine too, it’s a great synth. It’s ok as IAA, at least in aum, as you can set it up so that there are three of them on different tracks and there’s the little button to take you back to aum. It would be great to have several running at the same time, but it’s very useable as is.

    I should really proof my comments after voice to text. But I hopefully got the gist across. Rock solid stability, deep functionality, great sound. A main counterexample to the "never buy IAA" mindset.

    I don’t really buy any new IAA apps since it’s already being done away with by Apple. But I definitely still use all of the ones I have. Xynthesizer included.

    Understood. But what exactly does done away with mean, as far as you understand? There are four or five year old threads here that are predicting the imminent disappearance of IAA. Do you think Apple will allow IAA apps to be sold up to the very day that their OS no longer permits the technology to work? Maybe they would, but I'd be a little surprised.

    The way I see it, I'd rather spend 10 bucks on an app that is legendary for being one of the best implementations of the ipad for music knowing that it would last no more than a year, than on an app with mixed reviews that might last five years. Because I will get my moneys worth in enjoyment a lot quicker.

    Shoom and many other IAA apps have no equivalent even ten or so years after their release. With rapidly advancing tech, I seriously doubt that, for example, Butter Synth will remain unequalled in the next decade. But who knows.

    As far as what apple will do, your guess is as good as mine. But since we do know it’s coming that does factor into my decision a tiny bit, but for me it’s much more of a workflow preference. I still use some classic IAA like Borderlands, which is my favorite music app ever. As well as Shoom, Xynthesizer, Synth One, ThumbJam, etc etc but just because they have no other equal and I appreciate what they do that much.

    But on the whole, AUs are much easier to work with, much more stable, sync together better at times, offer state saving, can have multiple instances, can have multiple different AUs open at once, etc. It’s just a much easier and more inspiring workflow. There’s just those select few I can’t get rid of.

  • One of my fave, as well!

  • edited July 2023

    I really enjoy the sequencing capabilities of this:

    • a grid to quickly enter notes in a scale
    • controlled mutations
    • controllable sequence length

    Speaking of grid-based notes sequencers, what are our AUV3 options?

    • locked-to-scale piano-rolls could somehow fit the job, but adding a note is not as easy as tapping a cell (you often have to drag to the right to set the notes length). The closest in feeling I could use is Fugue Machine (with a single playhead) or LK (with notes locked to scale - also has random mutation, but not as controllable and as good as Xynthesizr). Atom 2 doesn't seem to hide notes out of scale so you can accidentally add something out of tune.
    • drum-specific sequencers have these easy grids but the number of notes is limited. One can simulate this with drambo as well (a single pitch per track, then tap on the grid to activate a note)
    • There's NoteSeq in miRack, but isn't obvious as notes aren't displayed and setting your min/max range can lead to have to lines assigned to the same pitch.

    I don't own but watched a video StepPolyArp but removing notes isn't "a tap away" it seems.

  • One of the best things it has is how it handles scaler transposition. Feed it a midi note and it will transpose as a chord value (ie I, III, iv,etc)

  • edited July 2023

    @MonkeyDrummer said:
    One of the best things it has is how it handles scaler transposition. Feed it a midi note and it will transpose as a chord value (ie I, III, iv,etc)

    I'll have to try that!

  • It’s not just you!

    It’s my go to for both fun and checking MIDI receptivity.

  • Nope, it’s still awesome

  • wimwim
    edited July 2023

    @jsmonzani said:
    I really enjoy the sequencing capabilities of this:

    • a grid to quickly enter notes in a scale
    • controlled mutations
    • controllable sequence length

    Speaking of grid-based notes sequencers, what are our AUV3 options?

    • locked-to-scale piano-rolls could somehow fit the job, but adding a note is not as easy as tapping a cell (you often have to drag to the right to set the notes length).

    Zoa - Living MIDI Sequencer. It's very much in the same vein as Xynthesizr and has complete control over how and when sequences morph, as well as probability of notes being skipped in the sequence.

    • drum-specific sequencers have these easy grids but the number of notes is limited. One can simulate this with drambo as well (a single pitch per track, then tap on the grid to activate a note)

    I enjoy Senode for a different twist on sequencing, including drums. Not a grid. It's a blank canvas that can be as rigid or generative as you like.

    • There's NoteSeq in miRack, but isn't obvious as notes aren't displayed and setting your min/max range can lead to have to lines assigned to the same pitch.

    As hard as I've tried, I've not found any of the many sequencers in miRack to my liking. I mean for "intentional" sequencing. For generative stuff it offers endless possibilities.

    I don't own but watched a video StepPolyArp but removing notes isn't "a tap away" it seems.

    Sure it is. It's just a bit difficult to get the tap right. It's not strong as a general purpose sequencer IMO though.

    Drambo is my #1 sequencer for all non-generative midi these days. It does pretty much all I need for pattern based stuff.

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