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michael_m

@tja said:

@michael_m said:
Haven’t gone back to Instagram since getting an email some years ago that my account had been irrevocably deleted due to not complying with terms of service.

I had the same recently!

I need to appeal to get the account back, which involved giving them my phone number AND a picture of me holding a given number on a piece of paper!

I did go as far as giving them my number, but I did not send the requested picture.

You are totally helpless against them and this strongly goes against anything within me.

So, Threads will surely NOT see me and to be honest, I have few understanding for people who accept their "rules" and ideas and what they want to get from you.
They should stay without any users at all.

Yet there’s a gazillion of obviously fake accounts out there that aren’t getting flagged…

I have zero inclination to spend time spinning my wheels on this kind of thing.

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I live without any social media , my life and my brain are not to be on sale . If it is free you are the product not the customer. Most of free music apps with ads or that ask your info and email must be avoided like evil.

JeffChasteen

@mambonassau said:

@dendy said:

@Carnbot said:
The problem with Threads is that it will be ok until it becomes monetised then it become a terrible experience just like Twitter and Instagram and the others, the pattern is truly tiring. I'd prefer more public services and truly open source alternatives which become popular.

i have great experience with instsgram and had very good experience wirh twitter until recently musk completely fucked it up .. somi believe Threads will not be that bsd cause there is no Musk involved 😂

After teaching a media studies course on how we use the internet for 7+ years, my take on Threads is pure This Mortal Coil: it'll end in tears (or, if it's anything like Twitter, tiers). Some related analysis by Cory Doctorow:

https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/

Social media companies exist almost entirely to sell your consumer info to third parties and, given the demands of the market, they will inevitably annihilate your UX, serve you sensationalistic (and repetitive) content, and subvert your privacy to justify their financial existence. Silicon Valley loves to give us "free" new stuff like Threads, but it's all essentially built on that same business model.

It's bizarre to me that so many folks are enthusiastic about signing up for yet another data vampire - particularly one that's, in many ways, just a more retrictive/exploitative version of a platform that already exists (Mastodon), as well as owned by a Web 2.0 dinosaur that has been - seriously! - instrumental in election tampering, genocide, and actively dumbing discourse down to the level of George Saunders' "braindead megaphone." The fact that so many have thoughtlessly created profiles gives me pause; after all, a platform lives and dies on "network effects" - that is, it has value only if a lot of people use it. If we ignored this goofy, redundant new thing, it would go the way of Google+ in under a year. But for some reason, millions of folks want to explore a billionaire's shiny new panopticon. Yes, it's "decentralized," but that word quickly becomes pure marketing if you have to surrender piles of private info. Kinda like "organic," where companies obey the letter of the designation, not the spirit.

The original party line for social media, e.g. Facebook's "more open and connected" mantra, is no longer its dominating principle. These are advertising platforms, pure and simple - for brands, sure, but also for humans who are branded, aspire to be brands, have unknowingly (and perhaps subconsciously) turned into brands, etc. Every time I see a soi disant influencer talk to his/her/their phone about a dog toy as though it was the most normal thing on Earth, I feel a little insane. Wasn't social media supposed to help us maintain actual human relationships? Keep up with distant friends and relatives? Maybe geek out over a shared interest/scene? When did we decide it should be an endless Tupperware party?

I could rant about this forever, but I'll just end with humdog's "Pandora's Vox: On Community in Cyberspace." It was written ca. 1994 in response to some drama on the Whole Earth 'Lectric Link (WELL) and quite eerily predicts How We Live Now:

https://gist.github.com/kolber/2131643

Thanks for a fantastic post.
You’re a hell of a writer, and your linked sources are great.
Thanks again.

realdawei

Please. Social media companies yea terrible behaviors blah blah blah

But what are banks, financial institutions, and ISP’s doing with everyone’s specific personal data under radar?? It’s better not to know lol.

purpan2

@realdawei said:
Please. Social media companies yea terrible behaviors blah blah blah

But what are banks, financial institutions, and ISP’s doing with everyone’s specific personal data under radar?? It’s better not to know lol.

We give far more information to social media companies than to banks etc. We show them our interests, through browsing activity. They read our comments. They learn our social interactions. Banks know how much we spend and on what. There’s a clear difference, I think.

Gavinski

@JeffChasteen said:

@mambonassau said:

@dendy said:

@Carnbot said:
The problem with Threads is that it will be ok until it becomes monetised then it become a terrible experience just like Twitter and Instagram and the others, the pattern is truly tiring. I'd prefer more public services and truly open source alternatives which become popular.

i have great experience with instsgram and had very good experience wirh twitter until recently musk completely fucked it up .. somi believe Threads will not be that bsd cause there is no Musk involved 😂

After teaching a media studies course on how we use the internet for 7+ years, my take on Threads is pure This Mortal Coil: it'll end in tears (or, if it's anything like Twitter, tiers). Some related analysis by Cory Doctorow:

https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/

Social media companies exist almost entirely to sell your consumer info to third parties and, given the demands of the market, they will inevitably annihilate your UX, serve you sensationalistic (and repetitive) content, and subvert your privacy to justify their financial existence. Silicon Valley loves to give us "free" new stuff like Threads, but it's all essentially built on that same business model.

It's bizarre to me that so many folks are enthusiastic about signing up for yet another data vampire - particularly one that's, in many ways, just a more retrictive/exploitative version of a platform that already exists (Mastodon), as well as owned by a Web 2.0 dinosaur that has been - seriously! - instrumental in election tampering, genocide, and actively dumbing discourse down to the level of George Saunders' "braindead megaphone." The fact that so many have thoughtlessly created profiles gives me pause; after all, a platform lives and dies on "network effects" - that is, it has value only if a lot of people use it. If we ignored this goofy, redundant new thing, it would go the way of Google+ in under a year. But for some reason, millions of folks want to explore a billionaire's shiny new panopticon. Yes, it's "decentralized," but that word quickly becomes pure marketing if you have to surrender piles of private info. Kinda like "organic," where companies obey the letter of the designation, not the spirit.

The original party line for social media, e.g. Facebook's "more open and connected" mantra, is no longer its dominating principle. These are advertising platforms, pure and simple - for brands, sure, but also for humans who are branded, aspire to be brands, have unknowingly (and perhaps subconsciously) turned into brands, etc. Every time I see a soi disant influencer talk to his/her/their phone about a dog toy as though it was the most normal thing on Earth, I feel a little insane. Wasn't social media supposed to help us maintain actual human relationships? Keep up with distant friends and relatives? Maybe geek out over a shared interest/scene? When did we decide it should be an endless Tupperware party?

I could rant about this forever, but I'll just end with humdog's "Pandora's Vox: On Community in Cyberspace." It was written ca. 1994 in response to some drama on the Whole Earth 'Lectric Link (WELL) and quite eerily predicts How We Live Now:

https://gist.github.com/kolber/2131643

Thanks for a fantastic post.
You’re a hell of a writer, and your linked sources are great.
Thanks again.

I agree... If I hadn't stumbled into the whole thing of making ios youtube vids I would not be on social media. I only opened Twitter and Insta accounts after starting my channel. I got a Facebook account years ago, but also pretty much stopped using it years ago and I generally now only use it to post stuff related to my youtube channel. I have pretty much no interest in scrolling through the feeds of any of these apps, apart from very occasionally. I'm not particularly worried about them having my data mind you, as I feel pretty immune to advertising. I can't think of any time I ever bought anything due to an ad on the Internet. Though certainly I have bought things because of youtube demo or review videos, or from recommendations on this forum.

realdawei

@purpan2 said:

@realdawei said:
Please. Social media companies yea terrible behaviors blah blah blah

But what are banks, financial institutions, and ISP’s doing with everyone’s specific personal data under radar?? It’s better not to know lol.

We give far more information to social media companies than to banks etc. We show them our interests, through browsing activity. They read our comments. They learn our social interactions. Banks know how much we spend and on what. There’s a clear difference, I think.

How much we spend on what and where is highly specific data. A much bigger predictor of future behavior than browsing activity. Unlike social media Banks also know your true authentic, name, date of birth, address, phone number…and perhaps maybe your bank balance…your salary of course lol

Phone number on file can be cross traded with your phone company who knows your exact location at all times due to cell tower triangulation. Phone company knows who you call and who calls you and when.

And because phones are digital these days have the technical ability to auto connect a phone call. (Not sure if anyone remembers the brief muted “bug” a few decades ago where occasionally while dialing someone’s home you could hear them a few seconds before they answered. I believe it was on redacted lol

ISP’s of course know every website and browsing history as well it’s literally traveling over their pipes tied to your uniquely assigned IP address. They know exactly what’s going on. I recall an ISP experimenting with inserting ads directly in your http stream —because uh they can

These silent institutions have much more capacity to leverage private data in a very specific way than the social media companies. And they are enjoying doing so while the social media companies take the heat.

Carnbot

u0421793

My Flickr
My mastodon @u0421793@functional.cafe
On Threads I’m also 0421793

Gavinski

@Carnbot said:

Lol...

Curious btw.. For those in the EU, I assume you just use a vpn to use Threads. But is the app available on the appstore in EU countries?

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Threads app is not available in EU, but you can download the apk (at least on Android) and just works.

purpan2

@realdawei said:

@purpan2 said:

@realdawei said:
Please. Social media companies yea terrible behaviors blah blah blah

But what are banks, financial institutions, and ISP’s doing with everyone’s specific personal data under radar?? It’s better not to know lol.

We give far more information to social media companies than to banks etc. We show them our interests, through browsing activity. They read our comments. They learn our social interactions. Banks know how much we spend and on what. There’s a clear difference, I think.

How much we spend on what and where is highly specific data. A much bigger predictor of future behavior than browsing activity. Unlike social media Banks also know your true authentic, name, date of birth, address, phone number…and perhaps maybe your bank balance…your salary of course lol

Phone number on file can be cross traded with your phone company who knows your exact location at all times due to cell tower triangulation. Phone company knows who you call and who calls you and when.

And because phones are digital these days have the technical ability to auto connect a phone call. (Not sure if anyone remembers the brief muted “bug” a few decades ago where occasionally while dialing someone’s home you could hear them a few seconds before they answered. I believe it was on redacted lol

ISP’s of course know every website and browsing history as well it’s literally traveling over their pipes tied to your uniquely assigned IP address. They know exactly what’s going on. I recall an ISP experimenting with inserting ads directly in your http stream —because uh they can

These silent institutions have much more capacity to leverage private data in a very specific way than the social media companies. And they are enjoying doing so while the social media companies take the heat.

Very fair points. Thanks for the explanation.

Johne1

@Svetlovska said:
This forum, SoundCloud, and Bandcamp are my social media. Anything else? A big Gallic shrug. @Gavinski , the EU ban is because they won’t undertake to prevent user data being handled illegally under EU privacy law:

“The release of Threads in the European Union was postponed amid regulatory uncertainty about how the app will use personal data. This is because of the E.U.’s Digital Markets Act, which includes provisions for sharing user data across multiple platforms. Meta must await approval from the European Commission, the E.U.’s executive arm, before it can launch Threads in E.U. countries.

According to the app’s own data privacy disclosure, Threads can collect information about a user’s health, finance, contacts, search history, location, and other sensitive information via their digital activity. The app can also forward data to third parties about a user’s sexual orientation, religious and political beliefs, race and ethnicity, body, and employment status.” - https://time.com/6292586/privacy-concerns-threads-meta/

Obviously in the Land Of The Free* ( *free for corporations, free from legal protections for everyone else), this trivial little detail is of no interest.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, peeps!

Well said! The data put online today used to require a court order from a Judge to be released. Information is far more likely to be used against us, than for us.
Privacy went out the window when the Internet moved from Military and University Use Only to General Public Use with organizations and governments moving all their information from internal private networks to public networks.

10-15 years ago I called my credit union to check-up on something and I was surprised by their security questions. For example, which one of the following streets did I live on in 1969? Holy cow! My credit union didn’t exist in 1969. So, obviously, people were paid to enter old private data into public networked databases! That was a real wake up call.

knewspeak

Orwell wrote ‘1984’ as a warning to the future, not an instruction manual.

McD

I don't like the "Threads" app display on my iPad and can't use that app on a MacBook but
in any browser an individuals threads display in a browser using their user name as the first argument:

https://threads.net/@profgalloway

So, you can poke around on user links without ever creating an account. A set of tabs with interesting
users should suffice to track conversations you might find of interest. There are a few music creators already
using this additional social network for growing their influence.

https://threads.net/@gavinskistutorials

https://threads.net/@patrick_baird_music

FYI: https://mashable.com/article/thread-people-you-follow-feed

u0421793

I’m u0421793 on threads but to be completely honest I totally forget that it exists unless something reminds me – I keep forgetting to go to the app to look at it and I think the first few days was the heyday (s)

Gavinski

You’re not missing much - in terms of iOS stuff, very little going on there. It’s boring af 😂