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Ableton loses intel NUC development?
Damn man, intel pulls out of NUC development, wonder how this effects the Ableton Push 3 Standalone up grade options. or even existing boards?
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@Danny_Mammy I dont have a P3S, I do love me some NUCs.....so i cant leave alone with these crickets.
Very interesting turn of events.
Ableton's unofficial statement about this recent development:
"Unfortunately due to the recent announcement by Intel about discontinuing their NUC chips, we will no longer be able to sell Push 3 Standalone units. As such, starting tomorrow at 5:40AM we will stop accepting orders for these units. All customers who have pre-ordered a Push 3 Standalone, will instead be shipped a special edition Push 2 unit painted in a rare "Irate Red" color scheme. Each special edition Push 2 will come with 4 AA batteries that you can use in any device you want.
We're sorry for this inconvenience, and we can't wait to show you what we have in store for Push 4. It's our most magical device ever."
(this was a joke for those of you with nonsense of humor)
I guess the other option is
“We will update all outstanding orders to ryzen threadrippers free of charge. Unfortunately, due to the extra heat, we will need to ship you a larger heat sink. To fit this heat sink, just remove the battery and usb port board….”
Man hope it isn’t this NUC that they use (but i think it is):
IMO, more and more future devices will run on ARM processors with lower power consumption at potentially lower prices.
Not a big loss, considering that they've already announced Push 4.
one thing is for sure intel are out so no future Deveopment with NUC . i guess other companies can make the existing NUC at their own prices.
Yeah, I don't get why companies keep choosing Intel. First Maschine+, now Push. Just use ARM for mobile devices.
I agree. Surely before these companies start development they do an assessment of the long term availability of parts.
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Sigh, that was a joke people.
At $1999, wouldn't it be better to get a high-spec touchscreen laptop anyway, where you can install any software you want, including any full DAW and any control surface app you want, and get far better battery life? (sorry, I'm a very simple man and just love to bust parties... 😁)
A kick in the NUC's for Ableton.... see what i did there
It wouldn’t have the deep level of integration unfortunately.
But that is purely a software problem. So I guess there's a market for such an integrated solution, and I could sell it for $1000 per copy 😄
Bitwig's touch interface/mode is amazing. What sucks about it is the selection of hardware available in windows tablets/touchscreens. The integration isn't the issue.
Oops 😂
But wouldn't development of the next Push generation be the logical consequence anyway?
that escalated quick..
so will the Push3 Standalone be in a blow out sale?
or will become a mythological device?
Yeah, they’re either gonna be worthless or dragon’s teeth… I’m loving mine still, all the more since I got the iPad hooked up through ADAT…
Push 3 controller+MacBook Air?
Seriously! These devices are cool and the software/hardware integration is “seamless” but, 2.5 hours of battery time??? And that’s 2.5 hours of advertised battery life, which makes me think that it’s possibly lower. It’s a NO from me, dawg. 😁
Battery life totally dependent on how busy your projects are, I've gotten more than 2.5 hrs here with my typically more scaled back projects.
welp..
I assume other companies will step in to fill the gap (small profit for a big company like Intel) , which would result in better pricing
edit , other manufacturers will continue to develop NUC chipsets .
Porting to ARM would be difficult ,but it would be way better in terms of hardware flexibility, price and power consumption
I don't think it's so much that Ableton didn't look forward enough. I think Intel, being the foundry and producing the chips, has historically assisted in hardware development and provides low-cost hardware with future price & availability assurances. With ARM, you pay someone to develop the hardware and then procure the commodity components (which are subject to highly variable price and availability pressure) and organize production. It is much more difficult for an enterprise that doesn't do much hardware development.
In regards to battery life can you connect a usb powerbank to extend the time or can it just be used for re-charging?
Yes you can extend the time with a battery bank. No idea how much that gains you in use though, not something I’ve had a need to do yet.
Live already runs on Arm.
I suppose you mean the custom ARM M1 chip from apple
Yeah, ARM for hardware would be different. Might be easier to run full Ableton on iOS, hmmm.
Why would it be different? ARM instruction sets are ARM instruction sets. When I run docker containers on my M1, I use ARM images, because the VM that is running underneath is…ARM.
The Push Standalone is already running Linux. I don’t feel like porting it over would be a major chore at all.