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Might have to buy Sparkle.
Sparkle is very good.
I have spent many hours now with it and tried all sort of various samples and combinations thereof and it's just not there, yet I hope.
Broohaha.. does a better job as an combined sample destroyer effect than this (use the stereo setting). I think that maybe they should have been merged (Broo and ISX) instead of doing two so similar but also quite limited apps.
Just found this on modwiggler https://phys.org/news/2023-07-acoustics-decompose-accurately-basic-components.html
I thought it could pertain to the discussion here
@Pxlhg : I’m inclined to agree with you. I’ve spent a couple of hours with it now, and I’m not getting much back. Its effects are too subtle to work usefully for me. By contrast, Sparkle has profound and easily manipulable effects upon sound. If isxynth it did what it does but with much greater extremity of effect upon the sample, it could still be interesting, I do like the way the xy recorders work, they’d almost be worth it on their own if you could use them to target cc values in another app, but as is, I’m not getting much from it. It needs ampIng up, somehow. Looks like I took one for the team here. Ah well.
@Svetlovska hello and thanks for the feedback. sorry for the bad experience, i'll get more feedback on that and will think what i could possibly add later.
regarding the xy recorders to midi cc app — i've already thought about that but isn't that kind of thing already out there?
@a_n : Hi, and thanks for getting back. If it helps, I guess what I mean is, if the effect was much more pronounced, somehow, it could still be worthwhile. This could just be me. I’m not known for my subtle use of fx!
Sparkle has an immediate and profound effect on the sounds it is applied to. Isxynth: not so much.
The interface is very good, however. I have Broohahazier too, and that does impart a useful degree of sonic character to a sound.
I think there are some standalone xy apps out there, (Rozeta Suite includes one, for example) and some apps implement them internally, of course , but, and I’m happy to be corrected by the community, I don’t recall seeing an AUV3 app just focused on recording XY motion then punting it out via MIDI to control whatever set of external ccs (2, or maybe more than two at a time…) you want in another app.
A lightweight, performance orientated, ‘general purpose, always shove it in your MIDI channel’ app, in other words, in the way that I use MIDI LFOs and MIDIgates, just as part of my standard AUM background toolkit. If this functionality were to be added to isxynth I would feel that the purchase had been worthwhile. Hell, I’d even buy it again as a separate app!
Something just tightly focussed on recording motion, then replaying that motion and sending associated ccs. If you could build up a set of presets, maybe even trigger such presets as macros from an on screen set of buttons, great, but the app wouldn’t need to incorporate any audio effect, filters, etc itself. I can imagine some preset midi fx, mind, stutters, beat synced delays and the like, being useful for performance, along the lines of the Roland ‘scatter’ functionality, only more flexible, because you could assign it to whatever you want.
I’m keeping ixsynth anyway, I like to encourage interesting ideas even if they don’t always work out for me personally. Others mileage with this may vary, of course.
Have a great day!
thanks!
yes, i actually thought that Rosetta Suite has enough features to cover that use case but i can think about that if it would be requested. In that case I'd probably think about a very small separate app just to keep things clear enough.
have a nice day too!
Could someone please describe routing for this in AUM? I can’t seem to get anything out of it. Currently I’m putting one instance on the effect bus of one track, and a multi bus instance on the effect bus of another (both with Hilda sources). No mix setup seems to monitor the result.
Never mind. Got it.
Automating x/y apps with a host.
Like Drambo.
Seems prone to crash.
From a coder perspective.
Is it different than automating an apps cc. I guess it might be numbers. Number might mean position and the same route but with x/y. Maybe it has to certfify like a coded bomb
but just guessing. Dont know anything about coding.
Will check Sparkle.
If it wernt for Drambo waveguide. Maybe app wouldnt be great. Although the waveguide might sound gash. I guess its a bit like sparkles resonant filter but maybe isxynth has got built in filter also.
I get what some are saying. Its more of a texture app and theres usually enough texture with apps themselves.
Sparkle would need to be as good for live to be comparable, although app is high cpu.
but might be a case where you dont use for live anyway ( tweaking synth patches with app ) and mainly audio stem.
Someone could post a sparkle demo.
To be clear, I’m a big fan of Sparkle too. What I really like about isxnth is its live input in standalone, the recordable xy, the delays, and morphing.
That said, I do think isxnth is a couple updates away from being there. It’s close and this dev seems to be dedicated to pushing the envelope and evolving his apps.
Definitely seems very dedicated.
Was on the beta for this one as well and I really really like it. One of my favorites from him so far. I agree it’s a bit similar to Sparkle but both have their uses for me.
Not in the mood for app but Sparkle is lame.
Is it just a loop buffer ? Does it just make sound be muffled?
Not in the mood for app? What does that mean?
Personally I love Sparkle but if you think it’s lame I’d probably pass on this.
It’s not a loop buffer it processes incoming audio as any other effect would. The delay can be used as a kind of loop and it has automation but that’s it.
To be precise: it‘s 2 loops of arbitrary length which are traversed in arbitrary speed (each one set individually), which may result in classic pitch shifting.
Each loops level is set individually and direction can be forward or backward.
Iirc the left loop‘s level curve modulates the spectrum of the right one (named target).
There‘s also a formant correction, intensity and filter control of the modulation and a virtual keyboard (or midi) to add pitched playback.
This gives about a million variations of how any 2 loops can be cross-modulated, from subtle to drastic results. Yes, it easily could overshoot into speaker killing levels originally, but iirc a limiter was added at some point in time.
Setting or live altering loop segments is excellent on it‘s respective screen even in the millisecond range.
There is a learning curve, but once you understand the control flow it‘s really easy to handle and provides hours of sound exploration. Results are hard (or often impossible) to achieve by other processing tools.
The apps made by this dev are cool for me ( probably better than granular synths/effects but not liking Sparkle. Probably just dont know how to use but its too much of a degraded audio but not in a good way.
Something might be sampled for a song somewhere but thihk effects you can control from pristine to not pristine. Including the synths before effect are better than muffled and filtery vagueness. Dosent seem glitchy either but esotoric in sound. Plus you might have to sample to use that when sending a synth through? Its not exactly a wow. This is a beatcutter or something.
Will check again though as its like just going no. Without a proper opinion.
Can refund. Another lame app were lowtones.
Some apps just arnt like others.
I think what im saying.
Is its cool to have a synth patch. Decent effects that compliment the next. Layered. Pristine to not pristine and somewhat bounce of each other.
Not just add an effect and be like that dosent sound anything like the input and the output not even be that great.
Apart from it might produce something un-intentionally esotoric.
Which you get anyway. From all the apps you use in general.
Even then, You feel like some of your own skill made it so.
but will check again...
Seems like for me. How Beatcutter is for others.
Dont like UI or get nothing of value. Where as Beatcutter is the opposite.
Should test again though if I like beatcutter and this devs apps.
but theres probably a reason theres only a few vids on youtube.
but the demos sound pretty cool though...
DISCLAIMER: I have not bought it yet.
I am seriously considering this app and most of the ‘negatives’ are actually positives for me. I find many audio effects are just too heavy handed on iOS to be totally useful, and in fact that is why I evangelize fabfilter stuff so much. It can be heavy handed but it can do complex subtlety too.
That said, spectral effects are (IMO) extremely difficult to pull off musically. As a for instance (and I know it isn’t close to the same thing) but I purchased unfiltered audio SpecOps for desktop some time ago with huge plans. It never panned out and I couldn’t make anything useful with it. Love the concept, but just could never get good stuff to come out. Part of the issue was that it always affected the original sound too much.
Now this comes out. I am really intrigued by the interface, and I’m reading the effect is pretty subtle? Consider me very interested!
This will sell you apps. I signed a cheque for my services.
But usually I relisten to noodles and think why upload that.
So its ok if you dont pay lol.
The end of noodle is cool though.
I got 3 ipads. 2 via usb. This sounded like Mononoke. So will send dual mononoke ( with midi controller ) and other synths like shoom and thermo. To other ipad with these effects.
Ideal a touch screen synths. Cool midi control and then effects on another screen.
That feedback app is cool ( host to host ) Thanks.
but you always will be mapping effects. If you decide effects should be on reciever.
I think the weird and esoteric sounds are what generally draw people to his apps. All of them are pretty experimental in nature, so maybe they’re just not quite to your personal taste or what you’re trying to achieve? I personally love them.
That said I also really loved Lowtone and have been using it all the time.
Cool Hotstrange.
Still got Sparkle. Will test but kinda like the ui of this devs apps. Listening back. Its distorted audio but controllable. Maybe sparkle is controllable for synth playing or its more better for samples you may have made. In that case will have to think if there will be audio or app will be sparingly used. The demos of sparkle seem ok though. Dont mind estoric but not that keen on just sending a stem and seeing what the app makes from it but will maybe keep if the sounds can somewhat be different to other noise maker types ( like this devs apps ) For sort of interludes but prefer the app to also be controllable as an effects chain overlay.
Lowtones. Just couldnt deal with the decision to leave a keyboard on the app. They must know 20- 80 percent of users will ask why they decided to leave a keyboard on app because all hosts have their own keyboard.
Can you make a quick demo of sparkle?
Thanks.
Dont worry.
I refund it.
I think what it meant. Were adding own samples then sending a source. Just to see what it might randomly be.
Taking away any joy of music production.
Yet building a sampling ipad so the more sources the better.
Just think its better to gain samples then manipulate with an idea.
Apps like beatcutter get a pass.
I particularly like the esoteric sounds his apps produce as source for feeding into other effects like cascade, et al
Fair enough! Not every app will appease everybody.
I can definitely see your point with Lowtone though. Every app should have the option to make the keyboard disappear.
I’m moving this weekend but I could probably do it later tonight or tomorrow. Fair warning I’m no master of the app. I just run it and try to make some noise lol
100%. They work great at the start/middle of an FX chain.