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Thank you for stopping by ! I really like what Irena did with those audio stems. Really wish it gets more love!
Thank you for listening !
Thank you for your great words Dave. Nuclear power should only be used for civilian energy purposes while humanity is searching for sustainable non carbon based energy.
Citizen of the world should rise up and ask the destruction of all those abominations.
To this day, US and Russia own appr. 11500 out of the 13000 world stockpile. The non proliferation treaty is a clear success !
Wow ! you were in Osaka for the World Expo in 1970. So your were among the ones who saw Taro Okamoto's Tower of the Sun for the first time !
Yes. And after hitting Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, India we toured the Taj Mahal. I drank from the tap in Thailand and got sick as a dog in Spain but I fought off the bugs. It was something else for a 19 year old kid to see all those cultures and better understand the diversity on the planet. Italy was a standout for how to live.
I remember buying the LP of 2001 Space Odyssey, mainly for the Richard Strauss and being initially totally confused by the Ligeti pieces and then after a few listens fascinated by the ‘sound world’ that he produced. Your work seems to me to have a similar power. Very impressive 🙏
Ligeti's work is too powerful to compare. But If you felt this is something even slightly close, then it is a great achievement for a beginner like me and a great compliment. Thank you for the kind words, Tony !
Tangentially related, the US victims of the bomb, residents of New Mexico who were not warned about the tests, some of them lived only 12 miles from the blasts:
https://www.nti.org/atomic-pulse/downwind-of-trinity-remembering-the-first-victims-of-the-atomic-bomb/
Many people might think that it was a bad for a good, inevitable collateral damage. Who knows how many American soldiers would have died during the planned invasion of Japan. Out of those 2 bombings the second one on Nagasaki was simply an inhuman deadly statement from the US government to the rest of world and especially Russia, in the context of the Potsdam conference which ended few days before. Thinking of it, The war was already over, the remaining crumbs of the ancient world already shared. The first bomb in Hiroshima already killed Japanese empire last hope to prevail. The second bombing seemed so cruel...
The article you shared is terrible. Imagine those kids so happy seeing snow in summer and rubbing their face with their own death. Terrifying image. For this test no scientists from the Manhattan project had a clear idea of what to expect...
Closer from us, I don't know if you were living in Europe in 1986 during the Chernobyl event but I clearly remember. The radioactive cloud spread all over Europe. One day we were ask to rush back home from school and stay inside there until further notice, with the government claiming that the cloud would not cross the border...
Two people around me contracted thyroid cancer shortly after and underwent thyroidectomy. But yeah the cloud was not allowed to pass the border, he forgot his passport home...
What I don't understand is why the Japanese didn't surrender after the devestating Hiroshima bombing.
Even after the Nagasaki bombing they still waited 6 days before they surrendered.
Because it wasn’t the atomic bombs, they didn’t surrender unconditionally, the bombing was a test - using human beings.
Another disgraceful test.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/10611985/Forgotten-victims-of-Britains-nuclear-tests-on-Christmas-Island.html
It was more than just "a test".
Let's face it - it was a war and all sides would do anything to destroy the other side. If the Germans and Japanese had the atomic bomb they would have used it against us.
War is like that - awful.
Some people in Japan were in favour of surrender before the bombings.
The emperor wanted to surrender the next day of the second bombing, on August 10, but there were lots of discordant voices.
The Soviets also had there own agenda for Japan. And the Soviet declaration of war on Japan on August 8 is probably an important reason why the Nagasaki bombing was ordered, a clear message to Staline that Japan was US business only. Very dirty. But as you said, it's war. In a way the victims of Nagasaki bombings can be seen as some of the first victims of the Cold War.
https://www.osti.gov/opennet/manhattan-project-history/Events/1945/surrender.htm
Double post
That's right. Thank you again and again.
I have heard that the Japanese military had negotiated peace before the nuclear weapons were dropped, but the Allies refused to surrender because they wanted to show the world their nuclear weapons. Even after surrendering, the Soviet Union continued to invade Japan and Manchuria. What is even more tragic is that many Japanese do not know this fact because they have not been educated.
Who said that?
I think it is a well known fact, even Adm. William Leahy, Truman’s chief of staff, wrote in his 1950 memoir I Was There that “the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender.… In being the first to use it, we…adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children.”
It may have been an exaggeration on my part to say that the Allies refused to surrender.
The Allies deliberately presented conditions that the Japanese would never accept
As a result, we recognize that the timing of the Japanese army's surrender was delayed.
There are various sources and it is difficult to find them, but in Wikipedia's Potsdam Declaration, Truman wrote in his diary on July 25, ``I am convinced that Japan will not accept the Potsdam Declaration.'' Rather than surrender by declaration alone, it is stated that the refusal of the declaration justified the nuclear attack with the atomic bomb, and combined with it, the effect of surrender was produced.
Since it is Wikipedia, it may be scarce to convey the credibility
It sounds like he (understandably) felt a lot of guilt about the dropping of the 2 bombs. But for him to say the bombs were "of no material assistance in our war against Japan" doesnt make sense. After the 2nd bomb was dropped Japan surrendered. Clearly it was of great assistance in winning the war against Japan. It forced them to surrender.
The Wikipedia article about the 2 bombings says:
" On 28 July, Japanese papers reported that the (Postdam) declaration had been rejected by the Japanese government. That afternoon, Prime Minister Kantarō Suzuki declared at a press conference that the Potsdam Declaration was no more than a rehash (yakinaoshi) of the Cairo Declaration, that the government intended to ignore it (mokusatsu, "kill by silence"), and that Japan would fight to the end. "
That doesn't sound like the Japanese were "already defeated and ready to surrender".
Also, on the 25th July Truman wrote in his diary:
" This weapon is to be used against Japan between now and August 10th. I have told the Sec. of War, Mr. Stimson, to use it so that military objectives and soldiers and sailors are the target and not women and children. Even if the Japs are savages, ruthless, merciless and fanatic, we as the leader of the world for the common welfare cannot drop that terrible bomb on the old capital [Kyoto] or the new [Tokyo]. He and I are in accord. The target will be a purely military one. "
Like I said - it was a war and all sides would do anything to destroy the other side. There was terrible bombing of UK cites as well as German, Japanese, and other nation's cities. Maybe not one big atomic bomb, but thousands of bombs that create total devestation and misery.
That is war - awful in every way and good in none.
Couldn't agree more about war. Everyone at state level and individual level can become ferocious and merciless beast.
I remember reading that more Japanese people died of conventional bombing. But those nuclear weapons are the worst mankind invention.
Good in one - Now thrive the armourers - that is war without end, well until The End.