Loopy Pro: Create music, your way.
What is Loopy Pro? — Loopy Pro is a powerful, flexible, and intuitive live looper, sampler, clip launcher and DAW for iPhone and iPad. At its core, it allows you to record and layer sounds in real-time to create complex musical arrangements. But it doesn’t stop there—Loopy Pro offers advanced tools to customize your workflow, build dynamic performance setups, and create a seamless connection between instruments, effects, and external gear.
Use it for live looping, sequencing, arranging, mixing, and much more. Whether you're a live performer, a producer, or just experimenting with sound, Loopy Pro helps you take control of your creative process.
Download on the App StoreLoopy Pro is your all-in-one musical toolkit. Try it for free today.
DDMF ERS 250 Sound Quality Issue?
So I decided to complete my bundle by picking up this and the chorus. This reverb is capable of some nice sounds, but I am also hearing at times something that sounds like incredibly harsh aliasing - check the attached zipped vid file. It sounds totally fine, lovely, in fact, in vintage mode, but once I switch to ‘modern’ (and there is quite a long lag by the way in the responsiveness of this button, actually, in the response time of ALL buttons in this rather shoddy port of a UI) the sound becomes quite horrible. Have other users experienced anything like this? I saw very little about this app online, it has quite mixed reviews overall, but I did see at least one person who seemed to describe a sound quality issue like what I’m experiencing here.
Comments
Hi Gavin, I bought the ERS 250 about half a year ago and had serious issues with sync/lag, can’t really explain it but it sounded way off. I emails the developer but never heard a word back. Did a refund. The reverb/chorus/binson delay was taken over from another developer as I understood, but it never got any updates or attention. Just old stuff not working as it should. At least the 250, don’t know about the other ones. On OSX they work fine.
I’ve got it in my collection. I just realised I haven’t used it in a little while. I’ll revisit it and report on my findings. I hope @BerlinFx gets it his issue sorted out as well. Interesting thread this one.
Anyways, just giving this a bump again, let’s see if we can keep the thread on track this time!:
So I decided to complete my bundle by picking up this and the chorus. This reverb is capable of some nice sounds, but I am also hearing at times something that sounds like incredibly harsh aliasing - check the attached zipped vid file. It sounds totally fine, lovely, in fact, in vintage mode, but once I switch to ‘modern’ (and there is quite a long lag by the way in the responsiveness of this button, actually, in the response time of ALL buttons in this rather shoddy port of a UI) the sound becomes quite horrible. Have other users experienced anything like this? I saw very little about this app online, it has quite mixed reviews overall, but I did see at least one person who seemed to describe a sound quality issue like what I’m experiencing here.
Playing around with this on more sound sources….well, this is easily one of the least versatile reverbs I have ever come across. Sounds absolutely horrible on most stuff I throw at it. Wish I lived in a country with automatic right to refund, unfortunately I don’t, but I will certainly be trying to get a refund on this.
Yeah, DDMF usually churn out great apps, and this isn't one of them. I didn't bother getting a refund on this, but I hope you get it.
Oh, I really want it. I don’t like wasting money on crap, this is really disappointing. And the UI itself is just so, almost insultingly, low effort. Same with that whole trio of releases - the Echorek, the dim d and this. At least the others sound good, but they also have really butt ugly UIs that look about 20 years old. The Genuine Sounds Echorek emulation is also better than this DDMF / ERS emulation, in my opinion.
In the best possible way let me suggest that you are totally wrong about the DimD. It's magic and the best-sounding chorus on iOS in my opinion. It's indispensable, and it is what led me to buy the others in the bundle, which I find decidedly less indispensable.
These apps seem to be very faithful recreations of specific hardware. I don't love the sound I get out of the Echorek or the reverb, but I take that to mean its inherent quality isn't very tweakable.
No, no, you misunderstood me about the Dim D - I think it sounds great, and is totally different from any other chorus I have, I’m only criticizing its ugly UI, not its sound
It's not beautiful, you're right about that.
I hate to agree, but I do agree. It's why I didn't bother with the other two apps in the trio. I got the reverb as part of my Ambient collection, and it just sucks. 😂 It's why I'm hesitant to get MagicVerb.
MagicVerb is good but expensive.
Ah, then I shall save up my money.
I'm glad to know that one is worth it.
I love MagicVerb, that's in another league altogether from this ers 250
Patient: “When I push this button… it sounds bad.”
Doctor: “Don’t push that button.”
Lol. But McD, that button is supposed to sound good. Anyway... The issues with this app are not confined to just that button
DDMF is a PhD physicist that models scientific experiments as his day job. As a musician he loves to model electrical circuits from the original designs. The he often creates a UI based upon imagery of the target hardware.
It sounds like the Modern circuit emulation code suffers from aliasing artifacts. Thankfully there’s the original circuit.
DDMF has probably run out of classy Studio Gear to model. I wish he would consistently see modeling an instrument but he’s a specialist in the circuit designs for studio lovers of gear that can’t afford to go the hardware route.
Yes, he does some great stuff. This reverb is pretty legendary, so he must have messed up in some way. The collabs with the Magic Death Eye guy, as well as all the other stuff I have used, are all pretty much top notch in terms of sound. And I'm sure there's tons of legendary hardware he could still emulate if he wishes to, come on lol. There is no shortage of top notch vintage hardware to emulate if that's his bag. Personally, I'd be most excited to see more collabs with the Magic Death Eye guy, even though these are more expensive, because that other guy clearly insists on a better level of UI quality than Christian cares about or has the skill to implement in his solo projects
As far as the UI copying the physical hardware by the way, that's not what I'm criticising. The rendering of the GUI on this trio of apps is just so terrible, even the text is blurry in parts. Magic Death Eye and MDE Stereo are in another league, among the most lovely skeumophic UIs I have seen.
may i ask in which host you tried it ? Many plugins have GUI rendering problems in Logic but that's more Logic fault than plugin fault.
Also from what i hear from demos of hardware based on which this plugin is modelled, even that hardware sounds horrible LOL :-) So if plugin sounds bad too, it probably just means it is faithful reproduction :-D
OK lol... Damn. I tried in aum... So yes, it's just a problem with the app, not the host. That rendering in Logic when you resize windows is truly disgraceful, coming from a company like apple, I know it's a bugbear of yours, and I fully agree. I ended up renewing my logic sub last month after that loopback app came out, but have not really found myself using it. I really might let the sub lapse again this time until apple have done some major upgrades, I just don't really need what logic offers, at the moment
Just out of curiosity tried it .. had ZERO issues with GUI in both Nanostudio 2 and Logic (even that logic resize problem is not present here) ... sound is pretty close to real HW .. only small glitch i noticed was when i switched parameters of reverb but that is completely OK cause those parameters are not mentioned to be automated and i think they make small glitches even on real HW.
Really don't see anything wrong on this plugin, works as expected, from my point of view it's same quality like any other DDMF plugin.
@Gavinski going right back to your first post about the Modern button - as this is an emulation surely a mode which deviates from direct emulation is kind of besides the point? I can’t name cases where an EMT 250 is “the sound” but doing that would be the niche for this.
But the Chorus, 250 reverb and the DimD are not created by DDMF, they took it over from ERS which was already a couple of years around, and DDMF probably never did anything to update these fx.
i had never pressed the 'modern' button (never actually seen the second page!)
but can confirm it doesn't sound like i'd imagine it should (like static crackle)
motorboat controls though ... what a way to reverb,
)
As for the sound, my experience is that it can sound great on some things (vocals mainly) but horrible on most other stuff I threw at it. The modern button is almost certainly not designed to make it sound the way it does. The glitching while changing parameters is annoying, but in a reverb not a deal breaker for me.
@Slush I'm aware they took them over, I would have expected a bit of an update but I guess not.
Anyway, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I definitely don't personally rate this reverb, no matter how good an emulation it is of a 'legendary' unit used on thousands of hits etc.
yeah this is completely ok .. such old vintage things are very problematic, you either love it or not
) I just wanted to mention i doesn't hear anything obviously "bug" on that plugin, to me it looks all it does (including modern mode) is intentional.
For example i never got the hype around Magic Death Eye compressor - to my ears it's just normal neutral compressor, there is nothing special on it - i can get at 95% same result from Nanostudio 2 build-in compressor without any significant effort. I think there are other MUCH more interesting compressors on iOS than MDE (like Korvpressor which is my absolute top iOS compressor plugin)
Yeah, when it comes to MDE and MDE Stereo it would definitely be interesting to see what people preferred between those and a string of other compressor apps in a blind testing of various compressors. Certainly it is easy to be biased because of the beauty of those interfaces, their backstories, and the cost of the original hardware. I could certainly happily survive without either MDE or MDE stereo. Don't actually have korvpressor, but I certainly think I have enough compressors anyway. What do you like about it so much?
I did some research before I bought this, watched demos comparing this to the competition (UAD), both sounded great as well as the demo on my Mac. There’s just something wrong with the iOS version. Some terrible latency and the pre delay was unusable.
from my experience blind test of compressors would be very eye opening for many people cause most of compressors "sounds" same if you play enough with parameters you can get in most cases +/- same result from them .. then there are of curse edge use cases where each compressor acts specifically, but those edge cases are really edge cases, i would say in 80-90% of cases people do not reach that case.. i think mostly is really more about UI than about some specific "sound" of compressor (until it does just compression and not also some form of equalisation or overdrive, or stuff like that of course)
I personally doesn't like compressors which are doing this kind of "hidden magic" i always prefer clean transparent compressors which has knob / switch for every single thing it does ...
I use compressors always with very clear intention what want to achieve and Korvpressor helps me achieve it very fast with result most close to what i wanted to achieve .. So probably it's 60% because of UI and of course 40% just how individual parameters are reacting on UI changes (frequency range of built in filter, stuff like that) .. simply when i tweak something and i am expecting SOME result, i actually get THAT result and not something completely different (which is unfortunately the case with many other iOS compressors)
In general - i am guy of knowledge and rational thinking - i prefer when all knobs are doing exactly what they are supposed to do and i can intentionally get result i want, in opposite to approach where you just randomly tweak knobs even without deeper knowledge what they are doing, and searching for "sweet spot happy accident" .. which is totally ok approach too, i just doesn't prefer that approach
Interesting... Doubt it will ever get fixed, have seen people mentioning this dev not responding to emails and I've had the same experience on multiple occasions over the years. Will be buying his stuff with great caution from now on. > @Slush said:
A great approach, obviously one that takes experience, skill and good ears 🔥