DDMF ERS 250 Sound Quality Issue?

dendy

@Gavinski said:
A great approach, obviously one that takes experience, skill and good ears 🔥

not that much really.. from my observation basic problem which holds people back from effective using of compressors (which is not that complicated like it looks) is they doesn't know what exact problem they want to solve in first place.

People often just hear "there is something not ideal" and just trow on it random compresor and randomly tweak knobs

There is very simple approach.

1/ identify EXACTLY what problem you want to solve, make sure this problem is related to loudness changes
2/ try to solve it on small part of track just by automating gain

if you manage to do 2/, it means compressor is your solution, you can delete your automation (which is obviousle less practival than having just compressor which essentially does same just automatically)

And pick the compressor, where you can by tweaking usual paramters (attack, decay, threshold, ratio) get +/- same result like you got when you manually made gain automation.

It's really that easy. Most hard part is to find compressor which really does what kbobs description is telling you it does. In my case combination of NS compressor and Korvpressor does all the job i ever needed, plus recently started to like a lot Richter for some more extreme use cases)

zedzdeadbaby

@McD said:
Patient: “When I push this button… it sounds bad.”
Doctor: “Don’t push that button.”

I refer to Captain Fred when any button pushing questions come up..

Cheers!

ALB

@dendy said:

@Gavinski said:
A great approach, obviously one that takes experience, skill and good ears 🔥

not that much really.. from my observation basic problem which holds people back from effective using of compressors (which is not that complicated like it looks) is they doesn't know what exact problem they want to solve in first place.

People often just hear "there is something not ideal" and just trow on it random compresor and randomly tweak knobs

There is very simple approach.

1/ identify EXACTLY what problem you want to solve, make sure this problem is related to loudness changes
2/ try to solve it on small part of track just by automating gain

if you manage to do 2/, it means compressor is your solution, you can delete your automation (which is obviousle less practival than having just compressor which essentially does same just automatically)

And pick the compressor, where you can by tweaking usual paramters (attack, decay, threshold, ratio) get +/- same result like you got when you manually made gain automation.

It's really that easy. Most hard part is to find compressor which really does what kbobs description is telling you it does. In my case combination of NS compressor and Korvpressor does all the job i ever needed, plus recently started to like a lot Richter for some more extreme use cases)

Interesting and certainly rational. One use case for using a compressor beyond attenuating peaks is when the tracks in your mix are a bit too separate and you want more confluence or “glue.” I use MDE mostly for this use case and I do notice it - mixes seem less fatiguing to the ear. Subtle but noticeable.

Birdpie

@dendy said:

@Gavinski said:
A great approach, obviously one that takes experience, skill and good ears 🔥

not that much really.. from my observation basic problem which holds people back from effective using of compressors (which is not that complicated like it looks) is they doesn't know what exact problem they want to solve in first place.

People often just hear "there is something not ideal" and just trow on it random compresor and randomly tweak knobs

There is very simple approach.

1/ identify EXACTLY what problem you want to solve, make sure this problem is related to loudness changes
2/ try to solve it on small part of track just by automating gain

if you manage to do 2/, it means compressor is your solution, you can delete your automation (which is obviousle less practival than having just compressor which essentially does same just automatically)

And pick the compressor, where you can by tweaking usual paramters (attack, decay, threshold, ratio) get +/- same result like you got when you manually made gain automation.

It's really that easy. Most hard part is to find compressor which really does what kbobs description is telling you it does. In my case combination of NS compressor and Korvpressor does all the job i ever needed, plus recently started to like a lot Richter for some more extreme use cases)

especially if most of your sounds are synthesized/programmed there's little need for a compressor in most cases.
except you want that certain timbre that gives you this compressor.
to some degree this also applies to eq.
less is more. at least in this case.

dendy

@Birdpie said:
especially if most of your sounds are synthesized/programmed there's little need for a compressor in most cases.
except you want that certain timbre that gives you this compressor.
to some degree this also applies to eq.
less is more. at least in this case.

yes, lot of truth here.. i rarely use compressors on individual tracks, almost exclusively just on groups