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Anyone else slowly drifting back towards hardware

I'm surprised that I find myself slowly drifting back towards hardware.
I now have a Roland MC707 and Novation Circuit Rhythm and am considering additional purchases.
The whole process of creating music on these limited devices is very refreshing and not forgetting experiencing that lovely tactile feel of hitting that transport button and twiddling actual knobs. Very satisfying.

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  • edited July 2023

    i am still oscillating between iPad and my Elektron setup .. 2020-2022 was for me basically HW, i didn’t touched iPad .. this year i returned again to iPad but recently starting again looking at my lovely ST/DT/DN , maybe the HW phase is coming back again 😂

    Also month ago bought small modular setup (2x Nifty Case) but surprisingly it is a lot less fun than miRack so maybe will sell it and buy few grooveboxes to have more HW choices when inspiration hits hard :-)

  • Not me, I've got enough obselete gear laying around. I don't have the room any longer for more gear.

  • edited July 2023

    @cyberheater said:
    ... and not forgetting experiencing that lovely tactile feel of hitting that transport button ... Very satisfying.

    Makes me think of my Alesis BRC (Adat remote control) where that clack and illumination is an event B)
    (the unit is waiting for a display repair atm, though)

  • It’s never been an either/or situation for me. While I prefer making music on my hardware, nothing beats the portability of the iPad and iPhone when I want to work on music when out and about.

  • As a matter of fact, I've grabbed a Behringer RD 8 lately. And it's very very organic and trippy, to say the least...

  • edited July 2023

    I am tempted to buy this new Roland 101 kinda mini synth. For me the SH-101 is still one of the best synths ever made. I still have a hard time finding this synth sound on IOS. The new Subscription Synth is kinda close, but more Korg sounding to me.
    Roland S-1

  • @Tarekith said:
    It’s never been an either/or situation for me. While I prefer making music on my hardware, nothing beats the portability of the iPad and iPhone when I want to work on music when out and about.

    Sigh, I don't miss the commute but I made some of my favourite tracks while out and about. Something about the different physical locations and act of walking while making music gave a different perspective I miss amlot. If I had a headphone jack I would do some music struts just for fun every now and then. So tempted to snag a 9 for this but the 3gigs of ram has me mildly spooked.

  • @Antos3345 said:
    I am tempted to buy this new Roland 101 kinda mini synth. For me the SH-101 is still one of the best synths ever made. I still have a hard time finding this synth sound on IOS. The new Subscription Synth is kinda close, but more Korg sounding to me.
    Roland S-1

    I fancy that as well when I see one cheap on eBay.

  • @Antos3345 said:
    I am tempted to buy this new Roland 101 kinda mini synth. For me the SH-101 is still one of the best synths ever made. I still have a hard time finding this synth sound on IOS. The new Subscription Synth is kinda close, but more Korg sounding to me.
    Roland S-1

    I've been eyeing this as well. Reviews have been amazing.

  • That little Roland S-1 tempts me a lot. I think it sounds great.

    I tried very hard to be all ITB as it seemed simpler, but I didn't enjoy myself when trying to create that way. Attempting to write music on a computer makes me feel bored and lethargic. So I thought I would make the iPad my solution and got very frustrated with it. Now I have a hybrid setup, I use the Macbook like a tape recorder and I have a few apps loaded into it for things best done digitally.

    Recently I got a nice portable interface and some other bits and I'm excited about using the iPad again, mostly as an effects processor and a way to make interesting loops and to edit field recordings. It's fun and it's going well, but overall I'm a hardware fan.

  • I’ve been back and forward several times. I think I have owned almost every Groovebox made at one point or another. I’ve recently sold my remaining hardware apart from my Korg Kaoss Pads which I will always keep. A sort of half way house for me is having several iPads. You can allocate each one a specific synth/sequencer/sampler/drum machine and jam it out as though they were all separate hardware instruments. I love it. Just two Pure Acids and a drum machine on separate iPads can keep me amused for hours… as an example

  • @Antos3345 said:
    I am tempted to buy this new Roland 101 kinda mini synth. For me the SH-101 is still one of the best synths ever made. I still have a hard time finding this synth sound on IOS. The new Subscription Synth is kinda close, but more Korg sounding to me.
    Roland S-1

    I’m considering this as well. I only have a few volcas and pocket operators left but this would complement them well.

  • I’m actually the opposite. I was mostly hardware and using the iPad for effects, jams, and recording (and adding some occasional synths) from 2012 up until a couple years ago. Then I drifted away from it and started using mostly iPad, and now that’s basically all I use. I’m much more musically productive and inspired on the iPad so I don’t see that changing.

    Also, my fiancé and I moved into a tiny house so I no longer have room for any hardware. I guess it worked out 😂 I still have a couple of volcas and pocket operators, and may buy the new Roland box for the occasional jam session but overall I’m happy with just my iPad and midi controller. Until I save up enough for the OP-1 Field that is 👀 I miss my old OP-1 and iPad combo.

  • @AudioGus said:

    @Tarekith said:
    It’s never been an either/or situation for me. While I prefer making music on my hardware, nothing beats the portability of the iPad and iPhone when I want to work on music when out and about.

    Sigh, I don't miss the commute but I made some of my favourite tracks while out and about. Something about the different physical locations and act of walking while making music gave a different perspective I miss amlot. If I had a headphone jack I would do some music struts just for fun every now and then. So tempted to snag a 9 for this but the 3gigs of ram has me mildly spooked.

    I do find it slightly ironic that after 30 years of building up a rather nice music studio, a lot of my best initial ideas these days come from the iPhone at a local park. 🙄

  • edited July 2023

    As you know. I bought a 3rd ipad 9.

    Apart from having midi for anything and be tactile.

    Looking forward to the same ipad but with no midi.

    A fluid digitakt or something on steriods.

    Soft touch screen ( non laminate )

    and a cable from headphone out ( for the hardware vibe )

  • Depends what you mean by hardware. I play a lot of physical instruments, but spend quite a bit of time using software too. Probably the only thing I play really consistently is piano.

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  • I drift back and forth 😂

  • Sure, the iPad Pro is a great piece of hardware :)

  • edited July 2023

    @Antos3345 said:
    I am tempted to buy this new Roland 101 kinda mini synth. For me the SH-101 is still one of the best synths ever made. I still have a hard time finding this synth sound on IOS. The new Subscription Synth is kinda close, but more Korg sounding to me.

    These very much sound like my SH-101. If you don't mind using external hardware then here's Obsidian inside Nanostudio:
    https://patchstorage.com/sh-101_bass_1/
    https://patchstorage.com/sh-101-red-patches/
    https://patchstorage.com/mc-202-samples/

    The first two projects were kind of surprising to me because I didn'd expect the oscillators to play such a big role in its sound. Usually it's rather the filters in synths that make the difference.

  • edited July 2023

    @robosardine said:
    I’ve been back and forward several times. I think I have owned almost every Groovebox made at one point or another. I’ve recently sold my remaining hardware apart from my Korg Kaoss Pads which I will always keep. A sort of half way house for me is having several iPads. You can allocate each one a specific synth/sequencer/sampler/drum machine and jam it out as though they were all separate hardware instruments. I love it. Just two Pure Acids and a drum machine on separate iPads can keep me amused for hours… as an example

    ...but how do you (MIDI) connect them together?
    I have a 2nd old unused iPad ...

    In an older thread it was discussed but my iConnect broke and then i lost touch.
    But maybe there are smarter solutions now.

  • @BiancaNeve said:

    @Antos3345 said:
    I am tempted to buy this new Roland 101 kinda mini synth. For me the SH-101 is still one of the best synths ever made. I still have a hard time finding this synth sound on IOS. The new Subscription Synth is kinda close, but more Korg sounding to me.
    Roland S-1

    I fancy that as well when I see one cheap on eBay.

    I’ve got one it’s like a Volca sized SH-101+ an excellent release from Roland, hopefully more similar products to follow. <3

  • I've gone full hardware two years ago, jumped from guitar to iPad & MacBook. 😎

  • Right now I’m all in on Drambo hosting Koala and Loopy Pro, with midi controllers. Whenever I open Koala just to check something out, I end up with the beginnings of a song. It’s like bangers just fall out of it.

    My current MIDI controller is the OP-1 Field 😜

  • edited July 2023

    @Antos3345 said:
    I am tempted to buy this new Roland 101 kinda mini synth. For me the SH-101 is still one of the best synths ever made. I still have a hard time finding this synth sound on IOS. The new Subscription Synth is kinda close, but more Korg sounding to me.
    Roland S-1

    while it really sounds amazing and it has some pretty amazing features, it lacks basic thing why i buy hardware - immediacy and easy access to all parameters .. really too much weird button combos and menu divings to access all those interesting features .. main reason why i would still pick rater SH-01a boutique even through it lacks some features of this thing .. and i am the type of guy who likes super small synths and especially COMPLEX synths - but in this case the features load is ironically weakest part of this synth..

  • I oscillate (ahem) between IPad, where most of my actual finished music is made, and modular/hardware where I can noodle for hours.

    But there is no drum machine app - not even the mighty Hammerhead - which is as immediate and ‘performable’ as my s/h TR8 drum machine. Deliberately the older TR8, not the all singing, all dancing, menu divey 8S, the TR8 presents (almost) everything it does as a one knob/one slider per function interface, and it sounds fantastic, expanded to include, inter alia, my favourite classic sounds from the 606. Through the onboard reverb and delay it is well capable of my favoured doom drums sounds, and easy to torture in real time with patterns running. It’s so easy to build whole structures just by working the faders and fx knobs with the pattern running. I’ve never been someone for painstakingly building song structures.

    All I need now is for Behringer to make good on their promise to produce a CR78, and I’ll be sorted…

  • @Pummelfee said:

    @robosardine said:
    I’ve been back and forward several times. I think I have owned almost every Groovebox made at one point or another. I’ve recently sold my remaining hardware apart from my Korg Kaoss Pads which I will always keep. A sort of half way house for me is having several iPads. You can allocate each one a specific synth/sequencer/sampler/drum machine and jam it out as though they were all separate hardware instruments. I love it. Just two Pure Acids and a drum machine on separate iPads can keep me amused for hours… as an example

    ...but how do you (MIDI) connect them together?
    I have a 2nd old unused iPad ...

    In an older thread it was discussed but my iConnect broke and then i lost touch.
    But maybe there are smarter solutions now.

    No midi required - Ableton Link only. Just switch it on/enable it in settings (on each app) and all your bpm/tempos on all your devices will ‘Link’ - stay the same

  • @robosardine said:

    @Pummelfee said:

    @robosardine said:
    I’ve been back and forward several times. I think I have owned almost every Groovebox made at one point or another. I’ve recently sold my remaining hardware apart from my Korg Kaoss Pads which I will always keep. A sort of half way house for me is having several iPads. You can allocate each one a specific synth/sequencer/sampler/drum machine and jam it out as though they were all separate hardware instruments. I love it. Just two Pure Acids and a drum machine on separate iPads can keep me amused for hours… as an example

    ...but how do you (MIDI) connect them together?
    I have a 2nd old unused iPad ...

    In an older thread it was discussed but my iConnect broke and then i lost touch.
    But maybe there are smarter solutions now.

    No midi required - Ableton Link only. Just switch it on/enable it in settings (on each app) and all your bpm/tempos on all your devices will ‘Link’ - stay the same

    But also, if @Pummelfee is talking about sending midi or audio from one ipad to another, you could use the loopback plugin in this for latency free send / receive of audio / midi between devices:

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kq-voice-plugins/id6450491216

  • edited July 2023

    I've recently cross-graded/upgraded some of my hardware. I sold my OG circuit and MonoStation, a couple of small mixers and a couple of volca's.
    I purchased Circuit Tracks and Circuit Rhythm. Together these 2 units are a pretty awesome tool.
    The updated sequencer brings them into line with the one on the LP Pro and is pretty powerful (and the main reason I sold my older circuits).
    I'm in the market for a couple of small format sound modules to replace the noisy volca's, that S1 looks interesting.
    I am able to create complete tracks with this setup, and pretty quickly too.

    I still use the iPad, but as an ancilliary tool instead of trying to do full production on it. So I still use various sequencers that I record into the circuits, various synths to sample into Circuit Rhythm, and other apps like Launchpad and Blocs that I will run MIDI synced to the circuits, both as a performance setup, and for sampling/exporting from them to Circuit Tracks.
    I also still record performances from the HW setup into the iPad to do some mastering on it.

    I'll also sometimes just use the iPad in isolation for casual jams.

    The iPhone has pretty much been relegated to iPod status, I load recorded tracks into AUM on it for playing back in the car

  • @Gavinski said:

    @robosardine said:

    @Pummelfee said:

    @robosardine said:
    I’ve been back and forward several times. I think I have owned almost every Groovebox made at one point or another. I’ve recently sold my remaining hardware apart from my Korg Kaoss Pads which I will always keep. A sort of half way house for me is having several iPads. You can allocate each one a specific synth/sequencer/sampler/drum machine and jam it out as though they were all separate hardware instruments. I love it. Just two Pure Acids and a drum machine on separate iPads can keep me amused for hours… as an example

    ...but how do you (MIDI) connect them together?
    I have a 2nd old unused iPad ...

    In an older thread it was discussed but my iConnect broke and then i lost touch.
    But maybe there are smarter solutions now.

    No midi required - Ableton Link only. Just switch it on/enable it in settings (on each app) and all your bpm/tempos on all your devices will ‘Link’ - stay the same

    But also, if @Pummelfee is talking about sending midi or audio from one ipad to another, you could use the loopback plugin in this for latency free send / receive of audio / midi between devices:

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kq-voice-plugins/id6450491216

    Its not only about BPM sync by Ableton Link, but more the question how a second iPad can act as sort of additional hardware-synth. So it must be able to play it with my Materkeyboard.
    My iOS setup (very compact and cool so far) is a Novation AudioHub 2x4, directly connected to the iPad, and at the USB ports are a masterkeyboard and controller. No other MIDI cables and stuff needed - and no wireless latency issues.
    Maybe i can connect two of these ESI midiMate eX's with a two of these: https://www.thomann.de/de/the_sssnake_1871_adapter.htm ?? Then one midiMate goes in the USB Hub and the other into the CCK into the old iPad.... ??

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