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Is there a 'spectral panner' on iOS?
I'd like low frequencies panned left, mid frequencies center, and high frequencies right.
I've done a little research and think I need a spectral panner. I'm fairly sure there isn't a dedicated auv3 for this on iOS, but do any of the other panners we've got have this as an advanced feature?
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Do you have Saturn 2?
Seems to pan the bands.
but dont know how good spectral panners are, though.
Blue Mangoo has a free frequency splitter called Multiband. You could probably use that and send an app like True Pan to each band to pan all frequencies separately.
I don't have Saturn2 and didn't know Saturn2 could do this.
I just watched a Dan Worrel narrated documentary on it, I feel like I need to go back to University and study it for a semester!
https://youtu.be/LYwY8VTR1eE
Your video gets straight to the point though and I can see how I'd setup 6 bands of frequency based panning.
I do have TruePan and have just downloaded MultiBand so will give that a go too...
If you have Drambo, it’s pretty straightforward to separate a sound into three bands and pan them anywhere.
No idea why you want it panned like that, the lows always go center and mono.
But Drambo allows this and much more.
Maybe this is what you seek.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/directionaleq/id1301365260
Or yeah, Saturn has panning for each section.
Exactly. Was my first thought too
This too though, in general
That's a good one. Not that I know how to use it in ways that don't end up sounding like shit, but it does do what it says it does.
… or set up 3 send busses in your DAW, each with their own instance of your favourite band pass filter set how you want, each panned where you want. Send your track pre-fader to each instance and use the volume slider of each buss to balance the effect how you want. Then, to make mixing in your track easier for yourself, buss those 3 channels to a single buss.
Thanks for all the suggestions, I'm not saying its going to sound good, but I would like to try it on Piano or Strings and have low notes a little to the left, moving through the center for mid pitch, and to the right as pitch gets higher... experiments will commence shortly :-)
Saturn worth buying.
Looking at Toneboosters EQ and its EQ curves which would be perfect for that, the only parameter that's missing would be a Pan/Balance per band.
What about DDMF Directional EQ?
Already suggested a few posts ago by Wim!
Oh. Yes. Sorry. Scan processing system failure.
I think you Could you use something that does Multibands. And if it doesn’t have panning already, you can bus each frequency band and pan accordingly. I think Blue Mangoo’s Multiband app is free and will at least let you separate the frequencies you want into separate bands.
Here it is. Multiband - frequency splitter which also has multi-out, so create your frequency bands then use multi-out to bus them in something like AUM, then pan each output of each band however you like. Hope this helps.
Update - See AppStore photos for this app. The second photo shows exactly what I’m talking about, you can the stick an AUM internal fx (stereo balance, pan, mid side) after each multi out instance to space it out however you want.
If you want serious control over the frequency bands and their position in the audio field, I'd go with Toneboosters' MBC. It's a fantastic EQ which gives you pretty fine grain control over frequencies. You can change where frequencies are placed using the "Width" control (lower left).
That width feature is not the same as panning, unfortunately, it’s just about mid/side gain. The Blue Mangoo app mentioned above plus the use of a panner after it (and every daw will have a free panning utility) is probably the simplest solution. And completely free.
FAC Bandit would be great for this if it only had pan control in addition to gain on the bands. ( hint, hint ... @FredAntonCorvest 😉)
[edit] oh. I forgot that it has multi AUv3 output for the bands. Problem solved without UI overhaul.
I love that app. Never occurred to me to check if the panning is an AU parameter that can be automated. I may have to redownload it and test.
The multiband app worked well, and I think the slightly pitch panned piano that I was thinking actually works ok.
I was worried that as it works through multi-output that it would be incompatible with Cubasis, but there's a second mode in the app which works around that.
Here's my AUM setup for anyone interested.
I've used Pana for a more subtle effect but AUMs built in stereo panning works too.
The only disadvantage to this technique is the track duplication it requires. I think either Saturn2 or DDMF directional eq would be better for this specific use case as they operate on just the one track... but having said that, with the multiband app you can apply any effect to the band, not just pan or saturation.
Thanks to all, I've learned lots, and will look again at Saturn2 when it reaches orbital perigee with my wallet.
Glad it worked out for you! The Multiband app definitely opens up some cool possibilities. And Saturn 2 is simply amazing. One of my favorite apps for sure.
Sorry I’m late to the thread. I have all FF tools, using them a lot and the best one for your purpose is Pro-Q3. You don’t need a hard band split like that from Saturn and Pro-MB. In Pro-Q you can split nodes on L/R or S/M and also make them dynamic. No need to say anything about types and quality of those filters, we all know that they are best of the best. 🤩
Also, you can automate those nodes through the whole spectrum independently from other ones. Supports all important surround formats, up to 7.1.2 Dolby Atmos. You can't do this in Pro-MB and Saturn.
You could do it directly on the synth if you mod the pan with the keyboard.
This works on drambos sampler:
I was just about to say that key-tracked panning is probably a better suited approach. Can anyone suggest which other apps have such a feature?
For now I’ve found how to do it in NanoStudio’s Obsidian: simply modulate oscillator’s pan with key note as a source. Works with acoustic sample-based patches as well (pianos and strings like @belldu has mentioned)
Ya know, I have all their “creative” effects but never bought the mixing/mastering effects because I’m an avid fan/user Toneboosters. But this thread isn’t helping my wallet any 😅 Mustn’t. Buy.
This might be a good idea for a quick AUv3 plugin
This script could work for key tracked panning: https://patchstorage.com/key-to-cc/.
You'd parallel route notes to the script and to the synth. Then you'd use the CC output from the script to control panning. The smoothing control would help to avoid jumps.
There could be a a big problem with key tracked panning though. It may only work well for monophonic playing. Send it a nice big chord and there's likely to be chaos.