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That's the nice thing with Drambo: Each voice will have its own distinct panning.
@belldu: I've played with frequency dependent panning and I have to say that I don't like the effect. Low tones on the piano contain high frequency components as well so they're spread in the stereo image in a weird way...
So many good ideas. I'm enjoying experimental results so far but have noticed a slight problem with multiband panning for piano. The 'key hit' noise is quite distinct from the tone and that doesn't pan L or R along with the tone.
This is something that can be hidden in a mix but would be obvious for solo play.
Keytracked panning would work with a monophonic dry tone. I'd want to avoid panning reverb so I guess I'd apply any additional effects to a group track (in Cubasis terminology).
I think the pro option would be the fab filters and they sound absolute magic in the hands of pros for sure.
I watch the Dan Worrell videos, I can hear the difference in the final result, but how he gets there and can tell whether he's on the right path or not is beyond me!
Yes, I'm finding some of the limitations too... same with strings with overtones.
But I think I can hide a lot of the problems in the mix... we'll see.
I think the "pro option" would rather be a virtual instrument that features note-to-pan modulation.
I'm kinda mystified over why to go to all this trouble for piano when just about every piano app and sampled instrument has a stereo version available, with the low notes already panned. Orchestral samples too. I mean, even if the source I wanted to stereo panner-ize was purely mono, I could multi-sample it with just about any sampler and pan the samples.
Just a science experiment? Lord knows, I do plenty of that. But I'm curious if there's more to it that I'm missing.
I just wanted a more pronounced effect I guess. And for the strings the audiolayer samples I'm using are all straight down the middle. I think this is an interesting thought for directional arps or glissandos...
Maybe you could experiment with adding in mid/side nodes to busses and just panning the sides?
Maybe with am autopanner? Panstation, True Pan etc or maybe the binaural panner than Blue Mangoo did? If you really want to get experimental you could maybe use some of those GSDP 'magic' apps in multi out mode and apply panning to those
I'm not discouraging the idea at all. Great stuff comes from science experiments. But just fyi, you can pan individual samples in AudioLayer.
AudioLayer can have individual panning for each sample zone.
No need for fancy tricks or plugins.
Yes, I've just spent 10 mins rewiring the Virtual Playing Orchestra v3 tremolo strings to be panned left, mid, and right based on which zone the sample is in. Fortunately it had lots of zones setup already... so that works for anything in Audiolayer. It sounds so much better on headphones at least.
I'm also using NumaPlayer StringSection though for a counter melody (with no chords), and for that I'll try multiband as a frequency splitter.
For the Piano its harder, as I've got sequences of arpeggiated chords (in a piano sense, fast low to high).
Multiband is ok there but i might use multiple tracks with different pans instead for each note position.
This will be a mess to look at but will be sonically the best.
It's all been very interesting and I knew this is the kind of thing that would stimulate lots of ideas!
Do you mean panning low notes or low frequencies?
Notes, but i initially thought of this as something to solve by panning frequencies. I see now that for all but 'pure tones' frequency panning with a modelled or sampled instrument will get messy with harmonics.
I've discovered that panning notes is easy in audiolayer as each zone can be panned, and that multiband is the cheapest although not most elegant of the frequency panners for less flexible sound sources.
Panning frequency ranges is not going to result in the individual notes seeming panned. Spectral panning is something done for special effects not for changing the panning of individual notes.
Yes and the problem is I now want a note panner and a spectral panner too :-)
I like the idea of both of these things now!
Just be careful to not destroy your piece because of the extensive use of the imaging process. Majority of listeners using BT mono speakers. In-ear phones are nothing better, sub-bass range will be eaten up and bass barely listenable. 😅
I don’t think this is exactly what you are looking for but wanted to also mention the Blue Mangoo aka Mani Consulting Ltd. App Stereo Width Control. It’s $5.99, and take the Multiband app a step further.