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Tera Pro, a new beginning, and a question or two
Hi all.
After much time focused solely on desktop creation in Ableton Live, I'm picking up my iPad and phone a lot more now, and using them to create pads and samples for meditative ambient and drone that I'm working on for a project in Ableton.
I never went far with Tera Pro, but opened it today and really clicked with it. I received the BrainZ IAP as a gift today, and would like to buy one more, but out of the other three, I'm not sure what would serve me best?
Ultimately, over time, I'm likely to get them all, but by way of pacing my way into Tera Pro, what might be my next best IAP, given the nature of the music I'm making, and the approach I'm taking (making samples and loops for further processing, most likely, with a focus on pads and drones).
All suggestions are welcome.
Thanks for reading!
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I would say that the Wave Table IAP is by far the one that will serve you best for ambient.
Thank you @wim — would that be Module Waves, or Library WaveShaper IAP?
I only have Brainz and FM so I can’t comment on the wavetable IAP but Brian Eno made a lot of ambient works on a DX7 which is what the FM engine appears to be modeled after. And I’ve always liked FM for ambient projects myself. I
I love a touch of DX7. I have the Arturia DX7 on my laptop, along with OPsix and NI FM8, and I do like a touch of FM. I just wasn't sure what the vibe of the FM pack for Tera Pro would be. Thanks.
The presets are sorta your standard FM fare but it has full control now so anything is possible lol and I believe it loads sysex patches from the DX7 so any ambient leaning patch you have will work. And you know usually with enough reverb anything is ambient 😂 I kid, but I definitely think it could do ambient very well. I haven’t tried it yet but does sound great through Alteza.
That sounds pretty cool, as I have stacks of packs that will run on DX7, Volca FM, and Dexed. So I should be good to go with that. I have and love Alteza too.
Yes, I've loaded up my entire KQ Dixie extended library of sounds into the FM module and it's great.
Nice!
Sounds like a plan! Also there’s this https://www.thisdx7cartdoesnotexist.com/
I may eventually do that as well. I love Dixie but I’ve really been warming up to Tera Pro. Not sure if it’ll be enough to pull me away from Dixie completely but time will tell
It always will. Thanks for the link too.
No problem, hope you enjoy whatever you go with
Thanks!
I think the Waves Module is the actual wave shaper and the Library WaveShaper is just presets and additional waves for it. I was referring to the Module Waves. I don't have the Library.
Ah, okay, thanks @wim, that's clear.
@andowrites Either the Waves or the FM module can be useful for drone, depending on what sound you're after.
Waves has more modulation options, so that might be a factor, if creating slowly evolving and shifting sounds is of interest.
Many of the bundled Wavetables I've tested sound quite digital in their pure form, as if generated from pure math functions, but I havent tested them all, so there may be some more analog or instrumental ones in there too. But you can import Wavetables too if you have your own library.
But as always it's how the oscillators are processed with filters/FX etc to shape the sound that gives us what we're after, so blend it with the RingMod, Spectrum and other Tera Pro modules to create interest.
You mention BrainZ - it is a real gift for adding texture to ambient sounds, which is what I create most. It's 16 oscillators in one, and well worth playing around with in the mix of a patch. It's what I'm having the most fun with at the moment.
Let us know how you get on!
PS If meditative ambient is what you're interested in, check out ID700 synth - it combines FM and Additive synthesis in quite a unique way and can use looping envelopes that last over 2 minutes.
Thank you for this comment and @andowrites for the thread, I was basically asking myself exactly that questions in the last few days.
Thank you for the thorough answer! I'll be exploring all of these options. I already bought BrainZ yesterday. I have and love the Spectrum app, so figure I would love BrainZ. I also bought the FM module. I'm intrigued to see what it offers for drone creations. I will do a little research around the Waves module too now.
I'll take a look at the ID700. I'm becoming increasingly fond of FM synthesis, even with little knowledge so far. I have a good setup forming for FM across platforms — cross-platform creating is a passion of mine. I love to be able to move as seamlessly as possible between platforms and devices.
Thanks again!
When sound designing with Tera Pro, I would recommend using a limiter and a low pass filter after it in your DAW, as on a couple of occasions while messing with parameters in BrainZ and Waves, Tera Pro has gone into freakout, begun emitting a very loud screech which then continues at over +6dB, pushing the AUM meters right into the red, and I have to remove it from AUM.
Not sure if @VirSyn is aware of this?
I haven’t had this problem with Tera Pro, but I’ve experienced similar massive feedback overload issues previously with Tape Pro from Caelum Audio and on desktop with plug-ins in both GarageBand and Logic Pro.
To protect your ears and speakers on desktop this is really good.
https://nugenaudio.com/sigmod
Ice9 is similar.
These act like a fuse rather than using dynamic control like a limiter.
Not sure there’s any iOS equivalent.
Not really. But sometimes i heard that the reverb may go crazy. Was any of the effects on?
in cubasis3 its not possible to automate the arp gate. someone can automate it somewhere else?
Yes, I noticed that when the Reverb FX is processing a high input signal, then there is a big sound (like « shroooof ») occurring. Especially true with AudioLayer. Also but less pronounced in AddStation. Maybe there is something in common that could be fixed in your Reverb FX code (very good sounding otherwise) which is the same used in your entire apps collection I guess.
Thanks … I’ll check and get back to you.
Posting an example would be helpful.
I'm trying to reproduce this consistently without blowing my hardware or eardrums, and will post an example as soon as I can.
put a limiter on your master bus or after tera pro and you won't have a risk of blowing eardrums or equipment.
Oh I slapped on Barricade and an LPF as soon as it freaked out on me.
I'm starting to think there might be something fundamentally unstable about audio software on iOS and macOS? I've had the exact same 'out of control screaming feedback' and massive pops on my iMac for sometime now. It has happened so many times that I think I can now identify when I'm about to experience another audio freakout. Either GarageBand or Logic Pro will seem "off" and then I know have to stop everything and restart or I'll blow up my system. I wish I had crash logs which would help pinpoint what the problem is, but nothing is technically crashing so no logs are generated! I've been working with the nice people over at Applied Acoustics because I thought the problem was their plugins specifically... but I'm not so sure anymore since this sounds almost exactly like my experience. Incredibly frustrating.