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Yamaha finger drum ? uh?

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  • @senhorlampada said:
    Random thought of the day
    This thread reminds me of this gentleman

    Ah man this is a classic. This along with the Yamaha salesman video are some of the best synth demos ever.

  • edited October 2023

    “This is rock n roll”
    I dunno, maybe rockcore rollstep?
    Fun video, though, I might have achieved enlightenment. Just like that

  • The only thing stopping me from buying one of these things is thinking I’ll be terribly disappointed when I try to, you know, finger drum on it
    Anyone actually got one?
    How responsive is it compared to a bunch of piezo mics and a little soldering and hot glue?

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  • edited October 2023

    @pedro said:

    The only thing stopping me from buying one of these things is thinking I’ll be terribly disappointed when I try to, you know, finger drum on it
    Anyone actually got one?
    How responsive is it compared to a bunch of piezo mics and a little soldering and hot glue?

    I just found the cheaper one used. The factory patches seem to have three levels of velocity, but my understanding is that it puts out the entire range via midi. So responsiveness would vary depending on whether you're using the internal sounds, or using it as a midi controller to drive an external sample with more velocity layers (which I have yet to try).

    It is surprisingly easy to play and get usable beats out of. Only took me an hour or so to get some chops together.

  • I can agree with the lack sensitivity. Bought the 30 and sent it back. I much prefer the feel of mpd218 or maschine pads.

  • @HarlekinX Thanks for posting !

  • edited February 2024

    @jazzmess said:
    I can agree with the lack sensitivity. Bought the 30 and sent it back. I much prefer the feel of mpd218 or maschine pads.

    Thanks for mentioning Maschine. The pads on this thing are indeed amazing and if you are lucky you can get the Maschine+ for around 500€. And it's so much more than FDGP.

  • edited July 2025

    Was just trying one of the FGDP-50's out

    IOS COMPATIBILITY?
    Records audio into AUM/audioshare and plays back audio from the ipad (synths, recorded audio, etc.) through its little speaker on the top. You can send audio from iphone/ipad to your studio monitors through the FGDP-50 via the FGDP's 3.5mm audio out, and you can play synths from your phone or ipad through it; 3.5mm audio in, so it can act as a 16bit 44.1k interface to/from your phone or ipad.
    It is recognized in AUM as an audio and MIDI input.
    EDITED::::: [ I haven't been able to get external sequencers from the ipad to trigger the sounds in FGDP-50 yet -not sure why, but following is from the manual; will edit again if I get it to work -any tips would be appreciated]
    According to the Manual, to activate its tones from an external device via MIDI you have to menu dive the FGDP-50 (MENU>TRIGGER>select an option from P07 to P12 depending on the velocity and AT curve you want). P01-P06 are activating internal tones via the pads on the FGDP-50). Maybe some other setting is needed alongside this to get it working?? Bug?

    GENERAL IMPRESSIONS...
    Out of the box the velocity response of the Kicks does not respond very well to lighter touches -you have to slam it a bit. Has been recommended to tweak AD Gain to address this but haven't fooled with it yet.
    The pads as set by the factory, which are velocity sensitive and have aftertouch, are OK but I greatly prefer the response/velocity curves in my old Korg Padkontrol. However (again) this is tweakable in the FGDP-50 and I haven't tried that yet.

    The particular layout (larger pads for kicks and snares) is interesting and seems well thought out.
    The samples in the Yamaha are diverse and of very good quality for many genres.
    Size and ergonomics are pretty nice though it would be better with dedicated MIDI outs and USB-C -the decision to use the obsolete and fiddly USB mini seems a little weird at best to me. Would be nice to have 1/4 jacks.

  • @HotStrange said:
    This along with the Yamaha salesman video are some of the best synth demos ever.

    The ones by Bert Smorenburg are classics :sunglasses:

    They don't do demos like they used to...

  • edited October 2025

    I read that before. My final verdict after playing with the 30 for several hours:

    • I love the layout. Really ergonomic. In hindsight the split hand approach that that link talks about is not like how I play at all. I like to play it as a surface, like even slap several pads like it were a conga. And the patches are all so well laid out that they allow that fluidity between sounds. I really love it, patches like percussion master or japan I could be there for hours
    • The big brother 50 has displays and user sample importing, but it must be a pita to create patches, and I don’t really intend to use its sounds (except for fun), so I don’t care about this much
    • The audio out connection is only stereo mix (at least on the 30). Would be nice to be able to assign different pads to different stereo outputs
    • As a midi controller: why, oh why, micro usb? This thing is supposed to take a beating so is a connector that trembles at any slight disturbance really an option?
    • That said it does record midi with all expressiveness flawlessly, I only tried drambo and need a work around to also capture aftertouch there
    • Have still to test a workflow of midi tape recorder hosted in drambo, jam for half an hour, then save the best midi loops

    All in all, this is a budget controller and for that it performs very well. Sounds are top notch, the pads very well laid out, and the inner speaker will provide you lots of fun at parties
    But I’ll probably gift it to my nephew after I’m done recording with it, and wait till they make an mk2 or something

    Edit: it has another problem with the usb connector. The unit doesn’t work if the battery is below capacity (red light) even if plugged in (power can’t bypass battery). And the battery being like 400 cycles long and not replaceable? you’ll eventually end up with a $150 paperweight

  • I’m also thinking what’s the best lazy way to use some auto sampling app to extract at least some of my favorite kits, with all the velocity layers (I believe there’s 4 by pad)
    Doesn’t have to be ios, I’d rather do it on desktop, but I’m on windows..,
    Any advice?

  • @pedro said:
    I’m also thinking what’s the best lazy way to use some auto sampling app to extract at least some of my favorite kits, with all the velocity layers (I believe there’s 4 by pad)
    Doesn’t have to be ios, I’d rather do it on desktop, but I’m on windows..,
    Any advice?

    Sample Robot is a classic https://samplerobot.com

    I also made a janky command line version that could be adapted https://github.com/charlesvestal/synth-preset-recorder

  • Had one of these for a while, loved it at the time, gigged it, worked great into my looper setup.

    But it feels like a prototype, I ditched it in favour of either just not looping at all, or not having drums in loops, or just using acoustic guitar percussion or iPad drum apps etc.. basically, anything else.

    The micro-usb sucks. Only the default kit really sounds okay at gig level through a PA.
    Using it as a a midi controller kinda sucks because every damn plugin maps things differently.
    If you connect it via usb to your iPad, it takes over as an audio interface sometimes and that sucks.
    The 3.5mm audio out jack is a joke - make it XLR or 6.5mm, I mean, wtf.

    Could go on for days.

    It's a fantastic idea that needs a 2.0 version to bring it to the level I'd feel comfortable re-adding to my setup.

    It's also a competitor for the Handsonic.. but the Handsonic has a HUGE advantage - the Handsonic LOOKS like a drum/percussion instrument, people can SEE you play it and they KNOW you're laying down a beat.

    The FGDP-50 doesn't have that visual appeal - you might as well use a drum machine or backing tracks, because it lacks that aspect.

    Anyone that gigs knows that 99% of it is people enjoying what they SEE you do.

    If it's not blatantly obvious you're laying down a beat (ie, handsonic) then it might as well be tracks or a drum machine to the average Joe at the bar - and that is absolutely unacceptable, and single-handedly destroys the FGDP-50 for me as a live tool.

  • @charlesv said:

    @pedro said:
    I’m also thinking what’s the best lazy way to use some auto sampling app to extract at least some of my favorite kits, with all the velocity layers (I believe there’s 4 by pad)
    Doesn’t have to be ios, I’d rather do it on desktop, but I’m on windows..,
    Any advice?

    Sample Robot is a classic https://samplerobot.com

    I also made a janky command line version that could be adapted https://github.com/charlesvestal/synth-preset-recorder

    Nice! Does the Python script also support different velocity levels and a custom file naming scheme for note names/numbers and velocity levels, for automatic import into samplers?

  • @pedro :Thanks for the detailed and interesting well thought out

  • edited October 2025

    @rs2000 said:

    @charlesv said:

    @pedro said:
    I’m also thinking what’s the best lazy way to use some auto sampling app to extract at least some of my favorite kits, with all the velocity layers (I believe there’s 4 by pad)
    Doesn’t have to be ios, I’d rather do it on desktop, but I’m on windows..,
    Any advice?

    Sample Robot is a classic https://samplerobot.com

    I also made a janky command line version that could be adapted https://github.com/charlesvestal/synth-preset-recorder

    Nice! Does the Python script also support different velocity levels and a custom file naming scheme for note names/numbers and velocity levels, for automatic import into samplers?

    Now it does!

  • edited October 2025

    [double post]

  • edited October 2025

    @charlesv said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @charlesv said:

    @pedro said:
    I’m also thinking what’s the best lazy way to use some auto sampling app to extract at least some of my favorite kits, with all the velocity layers (I believe there’s 4 by pad)
    Doesn’t have to be ios, I’d rather do it on desktop, but I’m on windows..,
    Any advice?

    Sample Robot is a classic https://samplerobot.com

    I also made a janky command line version that could be adapted https://github.com/charlesvestal/synth-preset-recorder

    Nice! Does the Python script also support different velocity levels and a custom file naming scheme for note names/numbers and velocity levels, for automatic import into samplers?

    Now it does!

    Wow, very cool!
    I've just seen the new

    python preset_recorder.py -b "MySynthBank" -v "40,80,120"
    

    and

    001 BritePno_C1_v040.wav
    001 BritePno_C1_v080.wav
    001 BritePno_C1_v120.wav
    002 FM Piano_C1_v040.wav
    002 FM Piano_C1_v080.wav
    002 FM Piano_C1_v120.wav
    

    Excellent, thank you!!

  • What would really ma> @rs2000 said:

    @charlesv said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @charlesv said:

    @pedro said:
    I’m also thinking what’s the best lazy way to use some auto sampling app to extract at least some of my favorite kits, with all the velocity layers (I believe there’s 4 by pad)
    Doesn’t have to be ios, I’d rather do it on desktop, but I’m on windows..,
    Any advice?

    Sample Robot is a classic https://samplerobot.com

    I also made a janky command line version that could be adapted https://github.com/charlesvestal/synth-preset-recorder

    Nice! Does the Python script also support different velocity levels and a custom file naming scheme for note names/numbers and velocity levels, for automatic import into samplers?

    Now it does!

    Wow, very cool!
    I've just seen the new

    python preset_recorder.py -b "MySynthBank" -v "40,80,120"

    and

    001 BritePno_C1_v040.wav
    001 BritePno_C1_v080.wav
    001 BritePno_C1_v120.wav
    002 FM Piano_C1_v040.wav
    002 FM Piano_C1_v080.wav
    002 FM Piano_C1_v120.wav

    Excellent, thank you!!

    That’s exactly what I need. I’ll see if I can get it working!

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