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Drums w/ Random Fills

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  • @michael_m said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    Yes, why hasn’t an amazingly deep FREE app achieved parity with a $99 app?

    We will probably all puzzle over that one until our dying day…

    I think that person is a troll. Every single comment they make about every app is the same. Going to their comment history and scrolling for 5 seconds I say at least 5 other comments about 5 different apps worded the same exact way.

  • I don't think it is trolling.

  • I like to use Hammerhead and on the last 4 beats of the 16 beats I put a very low chance on the snare, kick and whatever sound good. It creates unexpected fills.

  • wimwim
    edited October 2023

    I don't think that's intentional trolling - it's just their way of looking at things.

  • @klownshed said:

    @Vmusic said:
    AAAaarrrrggggh...... I wasted TWENTY MINUTES of my life in Garageband in iOS to "supposedly" make MIDI drum tracks, to no avail. WHY? Why is software soooOOoooo sucky? Is it not 2023? Why hasn't Garage Band iOS replicated EZ Drummer or Groove Agent?

    Just export drums as audio. Or use Logic.

    Software is at its suckiest when you want to do a specific thing in a specific way which the software won’t allow.

    There are usually (always?) workarounds even if the end result is different to your initial intention.

    And if all else fails there are far fewer limitation on desktop. Embrace the suckiness on iOS or use it as a complement to desktop.

    The latter works best for me.

    I really want to use ONE device, my iPad and not have to go back and forth between devices. Maybe iOS music just isn't there. I can make MIDI drums on my PC or Mac, in my DAW - not so with Garageband.

    Honestly..... if I have a working, decent piece of software on my PC, EZ Drummer or others.... then why isn't there one of these, or very close to it for iOS? iOS music apps have been out uh.... for YEARS. I would HAPPILY pay $100 for an EZ Drummer on iOS that has AUV3 (so I do not have to use yet another app to build my patterns /beats).

    I want PARITY with the PC/Mac world..... and I honestly AM willing to pay.

    Now I understand - I can not put 35GB of samples on my iPad to get that amazing pristine sound.

  • @wim said:
    I don't think that's intentional trolling - it's just their way of looking at things.

    You may be right. The wording, grammar, spelling, exaggerations, etc are kinda indicative of trolling at first glance. I guess it’s just…interesting. And maybe a bit tone deaf.

  • wimwim
    edited October 2023

    @Vmusic said:
    I want PARITY with the PC/Mac world..... and I honestly AM willing to pay.

    Why not just get yourself a MacBook Air and save yourself the grief?
    People looking for iPads to be equivalent to a desktop with a touchscreen are never, ever, satisfied. Maybe you should cut your losses.

  • wimwim
    edited October 2023

    @Vmusic said:
    Seems sooOOOOOoo complicated. I am used to 'EZ Drummer', which says a lot about my appetite to learn. I want to create music, not learn software. (Yeah I know.....)

    This comment has intrigued me since I read it. You play violin, one of the most learning intensive, particular, setup and maintenance heavy, and all around challenging instruments there is. I know, I played violin for years before switching to guitar and later other instruments.

    Those challenges set my expectations that music making is very rarely ever easy. I don't get bothered at all by having to work at learning new apps, setting them up and working around limitations. Heck, compared to dealing with tuning, strings wearing out, sticky or loose tuning pegs, uncomfortable chin rests, rosin, repairing bows, storage, humidity, temperature, sweaty hands, pickups, amplification, ... the most inconvenient app is like playing a kazoo in comparison to a violin.

    I'm guessing that you're so passionate about just wanting to create awesome stuff playing your main instrument that focusing on anything else just seems like a maddening distraction. Maybe you can be happier if you embrace the whole experience in the same way you embraced learning your main instrument and accepting the challenges as something to be expected as part of the process of making satisfying art.

    None of my business, I know!! I just hate seeing people wrestling with things that just possibly could be fun and fulfilling with a change in perspective. I had to try. 😎✌🏼

  • edited October 2023

    @Vmusic said:

    ….,,

    I really want to use ONE device, my iPad and not have to go back and forth between devices. Maybe iOS music just isn't there. I can make MIDI drums on my PC or Mac, in my DAW - not so with Garageband.

    .... then why isn't there one of these, or very close to it for iOS? iOS music apps have been out uh.... for YEARS. I would HAPPILY pay $100 for an EZ Drummer on iOS that has AUV3 (so I do not have to use yet another app to build my patterns /beats).

    Why? Because iPads/phones are a small market for pro/semi-pro music software. The return on invested time is not large for iOS music app development.

    You can find tons of discussions on AB form run of the problematic finances of iOS music app development if you really want to understand.

    What you are willing to pay doesn’t matter if there are sufficient numbers of others also willing to pay.

  • edited October 2023

    Edit - whooops …I’m a silly goose

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @Vmusic said:

    ….,,

    I really want to use ONE device, my iPad and not have to go back and forth between devices. Maybe iOS music just isn't there. I can make MIDI drums on my PC or Mac, in my DAW - not so with Garageband.

    .... then why isn't there one of these, or very close to it for iOS? iOS music apps have been out uh.... for YEARS. I would HAPPILY pay $100 for an EZ Drummer on iOS that has AUV3 (so I do not have to use yet another app to build my patterns /beats).

    Why? Because iPads/phones are a small market for pro/semi-pro music software. The return on invested time is not large for iOS music app development.

    You can find tons of discussions on AB form run of the problematic finances of iOS music app development if you really want to understand.

    What you are willing to pay doesn’t matter if there are sufficient numbers of others also willing to pay.

    I really don’t see the issue with more than one device. iPhones are great for obtaining field recordings, iPads are great for putting down basic tracks, and a MacBook is great for post-processing, mixing and mastering.

    I might record drums on an iPad, MacBook, or use a LaunchPad or a physical drum kit.

    Limiting myself to one device seems to just limit me in general.

  • Surprised no one has brought up Lumbeat apps yet - Funk Drummer is a great sounding app with random fills and it sounds pretty close to an actual drummer, thats what I use when i don't want to mess with programming too much. Logic Drummer is excellent as well, especially when you have it follow a bassline (or a simple drum beat).

  • edited October 2023

    @Vmusic said:
    I can make MIDI drums on my PC or Mac, in my DAW - not so with Garageband.

    You can with Logic. I know a lot of people don’t get on with it but if you make Logic the hub of your music making on iPad you have the least amount of compromises.

    It’s the only DAW on iPad that gets close to desktop.

    I want PARITY with the PC/Mac world..... and I honestly AM willing to pay.

    That ain’t gonna happen.

    To get parity with a desktop PC you need a desktop OS.

    I have a MacBook and an iPad. The iPad doesn’t get close to what I can do on the Mac.

    Logic is the closest yet but it’s very different.

    The best thing about logic on the ipad for me is that it makes it easy for me to use all the other great apps on the iPad, come up with unique workflows and make music I wouldn’t come up with in logic alone and then assemble it in logic and make it into a ‘proper’ track. I can then take that project and open it on the Mac if I want.

    The main thing I would miss from the Mac if I only had Logic in an iPad would be orchestral libraries. Nothing comes close to the like of Spitfire on an iPad.

    Musio looks like it would be perfect for the iPad. Might send them a message to let them know I’d be all in if they were to port Musio to iPad.

  • @michael_m said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Vmusic said:

    ….,,

    I really want to use ONE device, my iPad and not have to go back and forth between devices. Maybe iOS music just isn't there. I can make MIDI drums on my PC or Mac, in my DAW - not so with Garageband.

    .... then why isn't there one of these, or very close to it for iOS? iOS music apps have been out uh.... for YEARS. I would HAPPILY pay $100 for an EZ Drummer on iOS that has AUV3 (so I do not have to use yet another app to build my patterns /beats).

    Why? Because iPads/phones are a small market for pro/semi-pro music software. The return on invested time is not large for iOS music app development.

    You can find tons of discussions on AB form run of the problematic finances of iOS music app development if you really want to understand.

    What you are willing to pay doesn’t matter if there are sufficient numbers of others also willing to pay.

    I really don’t see the issue with more than one device. iPhones are great for obtaining field recordings, iPads are great for putting down basic tracks, and a MacBook is great for post-processing, mixing and mastering.

    I might record drums on an iPad, MacBook, or use a LaunchPad or a physical drum kit.

    Limiting myself to one device seems to just limit me in general.

    I’m iOS only but yeah I agree. The iPhone is probably the best field recorder you can get as far as features and portability/ease of use. It’s an essential part of my workflow now too.

  • @dreamcartel said:

    (But idk man, the Volca drum has smart randomization so when I program something it gives me variations of my own patterns which is really awesome….and I sorta need to avoid GAS/AAS for now but it’s on the Xmas list for sure )

    You are very welcome. About smart randomization, so does DrumComputer. In addition you can also randomize the pattern for each individual drum part independently.

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