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How to match or know if my kick or bass is in a good eq range?

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  • Thanks.. yeah I do the switch tracks thing in Ableton too. I’ll try that .

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @Bruques said:
    (how about a kickstarter project for trinity 2.0 AUv3 with a matrix of references?!)

    I'd be all in on that! We'd just have to agree on a realistic goal for the Kickstarter 🥴

    interesting thought experiment, i mean, i would hope that between the gear news sites and forums like this, we could muster enough people coughing up the 10(15?) or whatever (gets an IAP unlock?) that covers your time, so you wouldn't have to work for "the man" for the appropriate length of time? if we're being fair to a dev as per day rate and the amount of days to get to a version 1... but maybe that isn't realistic! maybe it's just me!! i have no clue. we see it for hardware all the time, but i wonder if anyone ever did it for soft

  • @Bruques said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @Bruques said:
    (how about a kickstarter project for trinity 2.0 AUv3 with a matrix of references?!)

    I'd be all in on that! We'd just have to agree on a realistic goal for the Kickstarter 🥴

    interesting thought experiment, i mean, i would hope that between the gear news sites and forums like this, we could muster enough people coughing up the 10(15?) or whatever (gets an IAP unlock?) that covers your time, so you wouldn't have to work for "the man" for the appropriate length of time? if we're being fair to a dev as per day rate and the amount of days to get to a version 1... but maybe that isn't realistic! maybe it's just me!! i have no clue. we see it for hardware all the time, but i wonder if anyone ever did it for soft

    I have played with the thought myself a few times -- for example I've thoroughly considered and even planned open-sourcing Xequence with a Kickstarter campaign to cover the time, initial hosting, support for the future community devs etc... but I'm not sure if an appropriate goal could ever be reached in these small niche markets.

    Let's say making Trinity AUv3 and adding the reference matrix would take an idiot dev like me roughly 100 hours 😉 (I really suck at AUv3 and lots of code would need a rewrite from scratch). If you use a realistic hourly rate for specialized, arguably senior software development, you'd be looking at 5,000 to 10,000 EUR (I live in Ireland of all places, the most expensive country in the EU 🥴)

    So with people coughing up EUR 10, you'd need 1000 of them! Probably more than the whole Audiobus forum user base 😂

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @Bruques said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @Bruques said:
    (how about a kickstarter project for trinity 2.0 AUv3 with a matrix of references?!)

    I'd be all in on that! We'd just have to agree on a realistic goal for the Kickstarter 🥴

    interesting thought experiment, i mean, i would hope that between the gear news sites and forums like this, we could muster enough people coughing up the 10(15?) or whatever (gets an IAP unlock?) that covers your time, so you wouldn't have to work for "the man" for the appropriate length of time? if we're being fair to a dev as per day rate and the amount of days to get to a version 1... but maybe that isn't realistic! maybe it's just me!! i have no clue. we see it for hardware all the time, but i wonder if anyone ever did it for soft

    I have played with the thought myself a few times -- for example I've thoroughly considered and even planned open-sourcing Xequence with a Kickstarter campaign to cover the time, initial hosting, support for the future community devs etc... but I'm not sure if an appropriate goal could ever be reached in these small niche markets.

    Let's say making Trinity AUv3 and adding the reference matrix would take an idiot dev like me roughly 100 hours 😉 (I really suck at AUv3 and lots of code would need a rewrite from scratch). If you use a realistic hourly rate for specialized, arguably senior software development, you'd be looking at 5,000 to 10,000 EUR (I live in Ireland of all places, the most expensive country in the EU 🥴)

    So with people coughing up EUR 10, you'd need 1000 of them! Probably more than the whole Audiobus forum user base 😂

    Yeah that's what I would have guesstimated, and yes from audiobus, there's gonna be very few of us, but maybe from across the online musictechnews sphere, but, then again, yeah, maybe not, who knows

  • @Bruques said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @Bruques said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @Bruques said:
    (how about a kickstarter project for trinity 2.0 AUv3 with a matrix of references?!)

    I'd be all in on that! We'd just have to agree on a realistic goal for the Kickstarter 🥴

    interesting thought experiment, i mean, i would hope that between the gear news sites and forums like this, we could muster enough people coughing up the 10(15?) or whatever (gets an IAP unlock?) that covers your time, so you wouldn't have to work for "the man" for the appropriate length of time? if we're being fair to a dev as per day rate and the amount of days to get to a version 1... but maybe that isn't realistic! maybe it's just me!! i have no clue. we see it for hardware all the time, but i wonder if anyone ever did it for soft

    I have played with the thought myself a few times -- for example I've thoroughly considered and even planned open-sourcing Xequence with a Kickstarter campaign to cover the time, initial hosting, support for the future community devs etc... but I'm not sure if an appropriate goal could ever be reached in these small niche markets.

    Let's say making Trinity AUv3 and adding the reference matrix would take an idiot dev like me roughly 100 hours 😉 (I really suck at AUv3 and lots of code would need a rewrite from scratch). If you use a realistic hourly rate for specialized, arguably senior software development, you'd be looking at 5,000 to 10,000 EUR (I live in Ireland of all places, the most expensive country in the EU 🥴)

    So with people coughing up EUR 10, you'd need 1000 of them! Probably more than the whole Audiobus forum user base 😂

    Yeah that's what I would have guesstimated, and yes from audiobus, there's gonna be very few of us, but maybe from across the online musictechnews sphere, but, then again, yeah, maybe not, who knows

    Well, setting up a campaign is not a huge deal... so... maybe it's worth a try 🙂 probably best in a separate thread though!

  • Serious answer: buy tonebooster eq and use the “AI” eq assistant

  • @cokomairena said:
    Serious answer: buy tonebooster eq and use the “AI” eq assistant

    I honestly had no idea TB EQ has an eq assist! 😱 I have that plugin and, yeah I do sometimes live under a rock. 😅

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @cokomairena said:
    Serious answer: buy tonebooster eq and use the “AI” eq assistant

    I honestly had no idea TB EQ has an eq assist! 😱 I have that plugin and, yeah I do sometimes live under a rock. 😅

    Barricade has this as well! It’s fantastic.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @cokomairena said:
    Serious answer: buy tonebooster eq and use the “AI” eq assistant

    I honestly had no idea TB EQ has an eq assist! 😱 I have that plugin and, yeah I do sometimes live under a rock. 😅

    Barricade has this as well! It’s fantastic.

    Where?

  • @cokomairena said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @cokomairena said:
    Serious answer: buy tonebooster eq and use the “AI” eq assistant

    I honestly had no idea TB EQ has an eq assist! 😱 I have that plugin and, yeah I do sometimes live under a rock. 😅

    Barricade has this as well! It’s fantastic.

    Where?

    Please tell us how to do it.

  • edited October 2023

    @cokomairena said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @cokomairena said:
    Serious answer: buy tonebooster eq and use the “AI” eq assistant

    I honestly had no idea TB EQ has an eq assist! 😱 I have that plugin and, yeah I do sometimes live under a rock. 😅

    Barricade has this as well! It’s fantastic.

    Where?

    @Antos3345 @cokomairena It’s not an EQ assist but an automatic option for monitoring the levels with the compressor. “Auto make up” on the bottom.

  • @michael_m said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Good points all around @jwmmakerofmusic. I think some people underestimate and overlook sidechaining in the mastering process. It’s not just a cool effect but has all kinds of uses.

    Probably more likely in the mixing phase rather than mastering though. Mastering is usually done on a stereo mixdown, so there aren’t really applications for sidechaining during mastering.

    Depending on genre: sidechaining does sometimes apply during mastering.
    For ex uisng FF Pro MultiBand. Select a band above 5K and sidechain that to the band where the kick resides between 40-90.
    Mostly done to duck the high freq range of hi hats and other elements or synths to achieve more pump and movement between lows and highs.

  • @Bob said:

    @michael_m said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Good points all around @jwmmakerofmusic. I think some people underestimate and overlook sidechaining in the mastering process. It’s not just a cool effect but has all kinds of uses.

    Probably more likely in the mixing phase rather than mastering though. Mastering is usually done on a stereo mixdown, so there aren’t really applications for sidechaining during mastering.

    Depending on genre: sidechaining does sometimes apply during mastering.
    For ex uisng FF Pro MultiBand. Select a band above 5K and sidechain that to the band where the kick resides between 40-90.
    Mostly done to duck the high freq range of hi hats and other elements or synths to achieve more pump and movement between lows and highs.

    That's actually interesting. I wouldn't do that myself since I always master to -14 LuFS these days, but if I still mastered my music up to -7 to -8 LuFS, I'd consider that trick actually.

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