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I ended up just getting the upright, and then the steel pan and the harp pack to get as much variety bang for buck. I like a lot of the older free stuff as much as the other paid pianos so even though I thought I might get one later, I’m now not so sure, I love that upright…
If someone with the same predisposition is reading this, I have only one advice for them - wait for Ravenscroft sale and go for it.
I'm really really glad I did. It sounds gorgeous and EQ timbre control is like a holy grail for me. So many options there.
Thank you all again for pointing me in the right direction!
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Ravenscroft is on sale now, and yes, I really like the sound although pianoteq is better in terms of having so many more velocity layers. I prefer Ravenscroft to Pure Piano, it's more lively, though I suppose you can also tweak pure piano with the EQs etc. Anyway, ultimately it's up to individual preference I suppose, glad you found something you're happy with!
Wake up this thread now.
Anybody here that have bought the new Bösendorf 280V Grand piano to Pianoteq v8 (iPad)?
I'm still playing with the demo but right on the verge of pulling the trigger. This thing is gorgeous - and I don't even like Bosendorfers much irl
Grotrian, the new Bosendorfer (outstanding!!) and Yamaha YC5 will cover everthing, along with the factory included ones.
Nobody needs to buy it to make up their own mind on it! That's the beauty of Pianoteq. It sounds great, to me, just from messing with the demo version. I have no idea whether it is close to a real Bosendorfer. Opinions seem divided on the sound on the Pianoteq website. But playing with it, and listening to some of the YouTube demos, I like these bell-like tones. It seems a bit quiet in comparison to some other models. I'm not 100% sure I'd fork out the money for it, as I feel I could spend a lifetime just getting to know the other models already. But I've never regretted having the Studio Bundle. All those pianos have their own character, and the Pianoteq people really seem to know how to make the most out of each basic model in the presets they choose for it. That said, the Bosendorfer has very few presets compared to some other models like the K2.
I really like the nylon guitar, but thats not a piano.
I liked the Petrof. I also have Ravenscroft too and its fantastic.
This what helped me:
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Playing around with pianoteq over the past few hours and comparing all the pianos, I'm not sure actually how crazy I am about the Bösendorfer. I definitely feel well enough covered with the others. I think my favourite at the moment is the Steingräber. I also really like the Grotrian, YC5 and the K2. These ones don't get too muddy when using sustain and sound great when doing intimate, low velocity playing.
From the Bösendorfer pack, I think my favourites are the Cinematic and Pop Mix presets.
I still on the fence on buying Bösendorfer in Pianoteq - as it is now my absolute favorite is YC5 without competition.
Whatever, Pianoteq on iPad is such a delight to use with details not found on iPad before Pianoteq release.
Yes, I love the clean sound of YC5. Honestly, you probably don’t really need that Bosendorfer, though, depending on your finances and gas, you will probably get it anyway 😛
Also remember Moddart also usually has a summer sale sometime in August.
TBH, I think a better investment is to upgrade to the Pro...I am still running Stage version and am saving up to convert it to pro in the next sale.
Please help me to clarify. With the Stage version I can choose 2 instruments, it’s clear. But if I upgrade from Stage to Standard how many new instruments can I choose on the top of the existing 2? Plus 1 or plus 3?
afaik, one extra
Thanks! If it’s only one instrument then it doesn’t worth to me. I’m not interested in the extra features of the Standard version.
I have Stage and went with:
1.) Steinway D as you get two pianos for the price of one and each has a ton of lovely presets and sound wonderful.
2.) electric pianos which gives you two Rhodes and a Wurli which all sound great.
Eventually I want to get both the classical guitar and harps as they sound incredible as well in demo mode.
I love the guitar and concert harp, also a lot of the Hohner stuff, Kalimba, and the Spacedrum is pretty good too. Oh, some of the Harpsichords, clavichord etc. Even some of the historical pianos are decent sounding. So much to like here in Pianoteq. Gimme the AudioThing Wurly over the Pianoteq one any day, though.
I’ve been using demo mode all this time up until today. Was a hard choice, but I went with Steinway D and Petrof 275 for my 2 picks.
The new Bosendorfer sounds very similar to the Yamaha YC5, IMHO. I used the “A B” Pianoteq feature and switched between them while playing some MIDI files and they are really close for most of the presets.
You didn't find the Bosendorfer very quiet McD? I didn't AB like that, but it seemed quieter than most of the other pianos to me
We should buy a sensitive metering app and AB the output of the pianos. It’s pretty easy to make
a new preset with the gain boosted. But I was glad to see that I didn’t see this new $50 purchase as unique enough to make me put down the money. I can live with the existing array of 26 modern and antique pianos.
I did get carried away tweaking the felt pianos to make them sound like Harps.
@Dav mentions on another thread that he has purchased PianoTeq too. I wonder how deep down the Rabbit Hole he’s going.
@McD, yep i finally purchased pianoteq (basic level). My sister gifted me a $100 gift card to use, and I had a $50 one already. Without those I probably would stay demo-ing. I picked up the new bosendorfer tonight after listening/comparing it to the others. I think it's a good balanced piano and will be good for a variety of things. I wish i would had selected it instead of the petrof at first.
I dont plan to go much further down the hole, my pockets arent deep enough.
Haha, I was also glad to see this. Was slightly tempted by the Bösendorfer, but I can't justify the purchase. The Pianoteq stuff I've got already is more than enough for a lifetime, and the Bösendorfer sound here doesn't appeal all that much, for some (lucky!) reason. Still feel blessed to have pianos of this quality on an iPad. I only wish I had a really good midi keyboard to noodle on them with, but I'm on the road and have to stay mobile. Otherwise I'd get a great weighted keyboard, maybe something like the sl88 grand, and really work on my piano skills.
Hmm, actually, playing around with the Bösendorfer again, I must say it sounds really fantastic in the lower octaves 🤔 😂
Don’t know if everyone knows this btw, but a very useful thing to do when comparing pianos in Pianoteq is to copy all the settings for one instrument (except the instrument itself) using the copy and paste system (which is very clever, and I wish that every app with a lot of parameters had this damn feature tbh!), and then paste those settings onto another Pianoteq instrument. When you combine this with the AB feature McD mentioned earlier, it is very easy to see the differences in the base models (though I read Pianoteq also do their own tweaking to those in their presets using parameters that are not available to users).
So the process is like this, for comparing the Bösendorfer Warm preset with other Instruments:
Load Bösendorfer Warm in slot A.
Press the Copy icon. Press All Settings, then deselect Instrument
Now in slot B, load, for example, the Steinway NY D.
Press the Paste icon. Now all the settings from the Bösendorfer Warm are loaded onto the base Steinway model.
Now you can AB them. When ready, load another instrument in slot B and repeat this pasting process…
Doing this, I found that the Steingräber seems to be the closest in tone to the Bösendorfer, at least when using the Warm Bösendorfer preset’s parameters. I also found today that I like the sound of the Bösendorfer much more than I did in my last test of it. Just goes to show that a) it really depends what you are playing b) it’s great you can demo these c) it is good to spend a LOT of time with the demo if you are not going to buy the bunch but are only going to buy a couple of instruments.
Fantastic app. My only real gripe remains the horrible way the main preset browser responds to touch. Still surprised they didn’t manage to improve on that.
Regarding Midi-keyboard and that you aiming at StudioLogic 88 Grand - I have the ”cheaper” SL88 Studio, and, when I compared this two when visiting a big music store, SL88 Studio got me hooked - great quality and feel for half the price compared to Grand model…
Good to know!
I have Stage, but wondering if Standard is worth it? Are you able to turn down the extra noises any more with Standard? If not I may just pick up the Hohner pack while the sale is still going as I need some Clav in my life and the rest sound great as well.