RealPhase: semi-open beta

HotStrange

@quantovox said:
Hi! Thanks for all the feedback.

Is there any additional feedback on the Rise / Fall (Shepard) modes? Now is the time to send it our way!

We've taken a long, hard look at possibly making it more seamless even beyond what's offered by the 50% and 75% overlap modes. It's a fine balancing act, and this particular vintage pedal places some practical limitations on what can be achieved.
At this point, with further attempts at fine-tuning, we're seeing diminishing returns when evaluating a wide range of audition tests - mostly stemming from the fact how stronger easing functions have an inherent property of actually sharpening the transition in the middle, it's the inescapable trade-off for the smooth transition at the two endpoints (see how the blue curve actually has a more steep middle region in the depicted example):

This phenomenon means that any marginal improvements at the endpoints come with the penalty of a more abrupt middle transition. Also in the context of this particular vintage pedal, the characteristic "sizzle" at the lowest modulation point also makes easing curves deliver the opposite result of what we'd call a smoothing effect. This was most apparent in the Hydrophone preset, making it more staggered or chunky.

So all things point to the current functionality probably remaining as-is in the released version, since it was proven as a good, balanced implementation to start with - unless some further specific feedback opens a new perspective on this.

@wingwizard : We investigated the PH-3 step mode further, and its sound relies very heavily on using a higher number of stages or much sharper notches, whereas this plugin initially will include a 4-stage model only. So if you're looking specifically for that sound, this phaser won't be the answer in its initial release. But definitely keep an eye on later updates. Don't worry about any intro pricing nonsense either. Absolutely no reason to commit prematurely on a future promise.

Cheers!

I’ll focus specifically on that tonight and report back if I have any suggestions but I’m fine with the current implementation right now and it works perfectly fine for me.

wingwizard

@quantovox said:
Hi! Thanks for all the feedback.

Is there any additional feedback on the Rise / Fall (Shepard) modes? Now is the time to send it our way!

We've taken a long, hard look at possibly making it more seamless even beyond what's offered by the 50% and 75% overlap modes. It's a fine balancing act, and this particular vintage pedal places some practical limitations on what can be achieved.
At this point, with further attempts at fine-tuning, we're seeing diminishing returns when evaluating a wide range of audition tests - mostly stemming from the fact how stronger easing functions have an inherent property of actually sharpening the transition in the middle, it's the inescapable trade-off for the smooth transition at the two endpoints (see how the blue curve actually has a more steep middle region in the depicted example):

This phenomenon means that any marginal improvements at the endpoints come with the penalty of a more abrupt middle transition. Also in the context of this particular vintage pedal, the characteristic "sizzle" at the lowest modulation point also makes easing curves deliver the opposite result of what we'd call a smoothing effect. This was most apparent in the Hydrophone preset, making it more staggered or chunky.

So all things point to the current functionality probably remaining as-is in the released version, since it was proven as a good, balanced implementation to start with - unless some further specific feedback opens a new perspective on this.

@wingwizard : We investigated the PH-3 step mode further, and its sound relies very heavily on using a higher number of stages or much sharper notches, whereas this plugin initially will include a 4-stage model only. So if you're looking specifically for that sound, this phaser won't be the answer in its initial release. But definitely keep an eye on later updates. Don't worry about any intro pricing nonsense either. Absolutely no reason to commit prematurely on a future promise.

Cheers!

Thank you for looking into it for me, that was really good of you really appreciate the Conv and ive learned some stuff. I expect ill end up buying the app anyway, who are we kidding lol