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I don’t see Audulus and miRack as being the same sort of thing or in any sort of competition with each other.
I do. So? Also I am pretty sure miRack's dev sees it that way as well. Otherwise I doubt he would have shown up here.
There's a big page inside the app that explains:
What am I missing if I have Logic Pro for iPad but not Audulus? What’s it do that’s so special?
No, I don't really. I showed up here because I do get occasional messages from users regarding monetisation, supporting developers, etc., including some worrying about subscription, so wanted to make my position clear.
Audulus is a beautiful piece of software but it's a very different experience to miRack.
Audulus is a DSP programming environment with MIDI support. Are you familiar with MAX/MSP or PD? I am not sure how Logic Pro is relevant.
Unless you're into building your own synths, fx, sequencers, etc from components, or possibly DSP programming at a low level in something like Lua, it's unlikely that the full app is anything you need, and there's a heavy learning curve.
However, there are lots of modules that have been developed for it, and you can use those for free.
With Audulus you can actually BUILD your own effects and synths! You can customize the UIs. You can open up the inner-workings of things other people have built.
Imagine if you could go inside the instruments inside Logic Pro.
And if that seems too technical, it's easy to use the creations that others have made!
It's kinda like Roblox for synths, if that makes any sense. Or Dreams for synths, if you're familiar with that game.
I suggest changing the tittle @Bruques , since there was a confusion about existing users
Good to know. It's also great to see when devs have respect for each other's work!👍 I hope you both a successful year ahead.
Thanks @wim and @espiegel123 …
This. Audulus is great but very deep and requires commitment. I have the full unlock but I’ve still yet to even scratch the surface.
Wanted to give you a "job well done" for the hard work you've put into MiRack, now making it polyphonic. That's awesome.
Do you have a tip jar built into MiRack perchance?
I agree. I think it's a little bit of a letdown that the pricing model was switched to 100% subscription without the option for a lifetime unlock fee. However, if I were into DSP, I'd have gotten Audulus 4 whether lifetime unlock or subscription. It wouldn't matter to me.
(Yes, I read the rest of this thread and learned the difference between Audulus 4 and MiRack lol.)
As it stands, there's only one app I consider worth it (for me) to subscribe to, and that's Logic Pro for iPad. I resubbed and use it all the time. Sure, even though I don't use LP4i to create tracks, I can record my Op-1 Field directly into there and master the recording with Mastering Assistant. That's far cheaper than other online mastering solutions as far as I know.
Again, well done on the new update.
I'll have to disagree about the trend. The problem is the App Store doesn't offer the ability for the devs to offer the traditional upgrading path, i.e., users can keep using 1.x version or pay and upgrade to 2.x version. Otherwise, they aren't forced to upgrade to 2.x and the developer can even release bug fixes to 1.x. This keeps both users and developers happy. Users are happy because they can decide if the upgrade price is worth it to them and developers can keep the lights on. The traditional software pricing model was great, but the App Store doesn't care for it. So most developers gave up on waiting and switched to subscription models because Apple has optimised the App Store for that. As mentioned earlier, one-time payment only works if you have a constant stream of new customers. Procreate has been an epic example of that. And what dev wouldn't want to be lucky like that? If a dev is selling a lot of copies why would they alienate users and introduce a sub model? Some would probably but doubt most would. And if miRack is a self-sustained business by charging only $15, that's amazing!! That's like 10k copies a year (I'm assuming you are working full-time on it). Doubt many audio devs can achieve that number. I'm nowhere near that.
Yeah the App Store really needs some upgrading in that department. As well as the ability to add a proper demo option without any workarounds.
Thanks! Not yet, but I'm considering that.
Definitely consider it!
I would far rather contribute to a tip jar than pay a subscription for something!
Definitely consider it @mifki .
I'm the same way as @michael_m and would gladly put something in your tip jar.
Tip jar sounds good to me. One of the reasons I bought the AUv3 modules was for this purpose: a thank you for the work you’ve put into the app.
@Taylor Looking ahead, any chance we can have MIDI Output from an Audulus AUv3 in 2024?
I would like to have a visual MIDI construction kit.
Don't forget you can also tip some of the miRack module designers. There will be a Donate button in the help for modules for those that you can.
I didn't realise this! Good find mate. Will donate some dinero to the folks kind enough to let @mifki use their modules.
Anyone suffering issues with latest Audulus. I already had paid for it. When I open it now I just get a blank, black screen. Same after reboot.
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/1280546/#Comment_1280546
Sad seen Audulus going the subscription route… been a casual user since first version… even bought the windows version that later was abandoned and can’t use anymore. Now iOS app deleted
No reason to delete if you’ve already bought it. You don’t have to subscribe as it’s already unlocked…
@Taylor I do understand the need for sustainable finances, speaking as a business owner myself. I had Audulus 4 on my radar as a possible purchase.
Maybe the switch to subscription was announced in some way already, and I missed it, that's entirely possible, but if it wasn't announced in advance, it would have been good to have a bit of warning about the switch to sub, for users like myself who will probably never take out a subscription, but who would have considered a one-time purchase. As it is, I'm very unlikely to jump on board now.
Also, a Loopy Pro type model might have been a better way to bridge the divide.
I do hope it works out for you.
+2. Same here.