Audulus now subscription

Qmishery

@espiegel123 said:
I don’t see Audulus and miRack as being the same sort of thing or in any sort of competition with each other.

+1

miRack is like virtual eurorack (imitation of real hardware)
audulus is closer to computer-only idea of modular like reaktor/puredata
different approaches and designs

imho

OnfraySin

I have to say, I'm a heavy user of Audulus, but not at this price subscription.

I'm going to use until the next update. No subs for me.

bygjohn

@craftycurate said:
@Taylor I do understand the need for sustainable finances, speaking as a business owner myself. I had Audulus 4 on my radar as a possible purchase.

Maybe the switch to subscription was announced in some way already, and I missed it, that's entirely possible, but if it wasn't announced in advance, it would have been good to have a bit of warning about the switch to sub, for users like myself who will probably never take out a subscription, but who would have considered a one-time purchase. As it is, I'm very unlikely to jump on board now.

Also, a Loopy Pro type model might have been a better way to bridge the divide.

I do hope it works out for you.

+1

wim

@OnfraySin said:
I have to say, I'm a heavy user of Audulus, but not at this price subscription.

I'm going to use until the next update. No subs for me.

I don't think you have to worry about that. As mentioned earlier, if you already purchased the app, you will not have to pay subscription.

I suppose if an Audulus 5 came out as a separate app you'd be stuck at Audulus 4. But it wouldn't make sense to go that route when the whole purpose of making it subscription going forward is to try to make Audulus 4 sustainable for the future.

Taylor

@mojozart said:
@Taylor Looking ahead, any chance we can have MIDI Output from an Audulus AUv3 in 2024?

I would like to have a visual MIDI construction kit.

I'm planning on it! There's going to be a LOT of AUv3 polish coming next year.

Taylor

@Synthi said:
Sad seen Audulus going the subscription route… been a casual user since first version… even bought the windows version that later was abandoned and can’t use anymore. Now iOS app deleted

Give the free version a try! it's great for casual users

Taylor

@OnfraySin said:
I have to say, I'm a heavy user of Audulus, but not at this price subscription.

I'm going to use until the next update. No subs for me.

If you've already bought it, you don't need to worry about the update. You won't lose anything

michael_m

@Taylor said:

@OnfraySin said:
I have to say, I'm a heavy user of Audulus, but not at this price subscription.

I'm going to use until the next update. No subs for me.

If you've already bought it, you don't need to worry about the update. You won't lose anything

But would Audulus 4 users who have already paid only have a subscription option when Audulus 5 is released?

Taylor

@michael_m said:

But would Audulus 4 users who have already paid only have a subscription option when Audulus 5 is released?

I haven't thought that far ahead. I don't know if Audulus 5 would be a separate app or just an update.

HotStrange

@tja said:

@HotStrange said:

@Synthi said:
Sad seen Audulus going the subscription route… been a casual user since first version… even bought the windows version that later was abandoned and can’t use anymore. Now iOS app deleted

No reason to delete if you’ve already bought it. You don’t have to subscribe as it’s already unlocked…

Yes, also - even if not fully unlocked, you may not even want to create your own modules and therefor don't need the full unlock anyways.

This is not documented very well in the App Store description

One thing to add (unless I’m mistaken) the AUV3 is only available in fully unlocked mode as well.

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satchnut

Daaaang... Had to wait until I had a compatible device to buy, and now that I have one, I see Audulus has become sub only if not already owned. Happy April Fools to me.

Best of luck to the dev either way.

Fingolfinzz

I do not make the kind of money to have a sub for every instrument, effect, and DAW. The developers that want to use subscriptions need to collaborate and do a bundle thing if they want it to be somewhat logical and feasible

espiegel123

@satchnut said:
Daaaang... Had to wait until I had a compatible device to buy, and now that I have one, I see Audulus has become sub only if not already owned. Happy April Fools to me.

Best of luck to the dev either way.

An awful lot of the app is usable without the subscription. If one wouldn’t use it a lot, you can subscribe only in months where you will be actively developing projects.

Icoustik

@espiegel123 said:

@satchnut said:
Daaaang... Had to wait until I had a compatible device to buy, and now that I have one, I see Audulus has become sub only if not already owned. Happy April Fools to me.

Best of luck to the dev either way.

An awful lot of the app is usable without the subscription. If one wouldn’t use it a lot, you can subscribe only in months where you will be actively developing projects.

Indeed!

jjkjjk

What is the impact on people who purchased previously?

espiegel123

@jjkjjk said:
What is the impact on people who purchased previously?

None

Svetlovska

So they have chosen death.

espiegel123

?

michael_m

@espiegel123 said:
?

I’m assuming Saruman’s quote when Gandalf is given the ultimatum to side with him or die. Was a meme for quite some time too.

rs2000

@Taylor said:

@OnfraySin said:
I have to say, I'm a heavy user of Audulus, but not at this price subscription.

I'm going to use until the next update. No subs for me.

If you've already bought it, you don't need to worry about the update. You won't lose anything

I was too late to the party, only got Audulus 3.
I've read in a review that Audulus 4 will need an internet connection to verify the subscription status - do I understand correctly that starting Audulus 4 without an internet connection available will block the subscription features?

espiegel123

@rs2000 said:

@Taylor said:

@OnfraySin said:
I have to say, I'm a heavy user of Audulus, but not at this price subscription.

I'm going to use until the next update. No subs for me.

If you've already bought it, you don't need to worry about the update. You won't lose anything

I was too late to the party, only got Audulus 3.
I've read in a review that Audulus 4 will need an internet connection to verify the subscription status - do I understand correctly that starting Audulus 4 without an internet connection available will block the subscription features?

Seems unlikely. I suggest contacting the dev directly. I am not sure how actively they monitor discussions here.

NoncompliantBryant

@espiegel123 said:

@rototom said:
update downloaded...
audulus black screen
ipad restartet
audulus black screen
hmmmm...?

ipad6

Some people have had to backup their projects and reinstall. I didn't have this problem with this update (also on an iPad 6) but it happened to me once earlier and i was able to solve it by tapping on the three dots at the top of the screen (the dots that give the slide over and split screen options) and choose new window which became visible at the bottom of the screen.

Luxthor

@michael_m said:

@espiegel123 said:
?

I’m assuming Saruman’s quote when Gandalf is given the ultimatum to side with him or die. Was a meme for quite some time too.

Luxthor

Essentially, it’s not ransomware. Audulus 4 is more like freeware for use, but a paid service for programming custom modules.

And you can subscribe for a few months, make modifications, or develop new modules, then cancel your subscription and use everything you did for free.

I think that developer don’t have other valuable solution to charge for new features, once they unlock the ability to develop custom modules, it’s almost impossible to sell proprietary IAP ones. 

I’m unable to test, but if it is possible to use the free version as AUv3, then Audulus is of great value for everyone.

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espiegel123

@tja said:
Developers can always just use the Working Copy / Loopy Pro model, which solves most issues for both customers and developers ...

Implementing that model takes resources and it isn’t yet known how effective the model will be in the long run. It seems like it should be a good model but the data is limited so far.

I think one should be cautious about throwing this model out there without mentioning that developers have to each work a mechanism to implement such a system … and us not having a concrete idea of how much extra work is involved in implementing and maintaining it.

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espiegel123

@tja: while it may seem obvious that it is a good model… without actually knowing how much time is required to implement and maintain such a system, one cannot know if implementing it would be cost-effective for any particular developer…especially since we don’t have any real idea how much revenue of these developers are earning. I think we should be cautious in our assumptions.

I know at least one developer who considered that model and determined that it would add more labor than could be justified for their case.

Synthi

I see one of the premium subs features is multi thread, does it works in stand alone only or it have some effect in AUV3 too?