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Epic Wins!!!: Is this the end of App Store as we know it?

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  • NeuMNeuM

    @CapnWillie said:
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-epic-legal-defeat-threatens-060401137.html

    As many app addicts know, Epic games sued Google (and Apple) after being kicked off App Store for creating their own payment system to avoid Apples 30% commission.

    They just won their antitrust lawsuit against Google. Many believe this will likely apply to Apple and all other companies (smart tvs, gaming, etc) that follow App Store business model despite Apple defeating a similar suit in 2021. Many say the difference is Apples win was decided by a single judge where the most recent verdict by jury will likely set the precedent.

    Epic CEO Tim Sweeney says:

    “ The same thing will start happening with Apple…. The economics are real. When you remove a 30% tax from an ecosystem, consumer prices will get better. Or quality will get better and selection will increase.”

    Personally, I call bullshit on the consumer prices will get better part. Yeah. Right.

    What think you?

    Specifically interested in how Devs feel about this new state of things?

    Aren’t you excited at the possibility of receiving more compensation for your work?

    How likely are you to pass the money you make/save on Apple commission to your users?

    Why would anyone view this as a positive development? And this will obviously be appealed by Google. These are businesses, not charities.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @TurnItUp said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    It's the same as racist language. Unless you're neurodiverse yourself or are close with someone who's neurodiverse, you don't understand sh-t about that word. Take your able privilege elsewhere!

    You are completely out of line. It is a pejorative word, meaning it is an adjective to describe disapproval, or to find something no good or of no importance ie. Faulty.

    The audacity to assume I dont know shit about a word and am able privileged is more offensive. Or jumping to a conclusion that I surely must not be neurodiverse is astonishing.

    If you don’t understand why the term is offensive, take some time to educate yourself as to why it is offensive. If you are unaware that it is considered offensive , now you know.

    Not intending to cause offense is different from not being offensive.

    R- is a word one of whose significant uses is insulting people that are neurodivergent and also people with with certain disabilities.

  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems
    edited December 2023

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  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @TurnItUp said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    It's the same as racist language. Unless you're neurodiverse yourself or are close with someone who's neurodiverse, you don't understand sh-t about that word. Take your able privilege elsewhere!

    You are completely out of line. It is a pejorative word, meaning it is an adjective to describe disapproval, or to find something no good or of no importance ie. Faulty.

    YOU and Darkstring are the two who are out of line. It is an offensive discriminatory word. If you can't see that, then educate yourself! It is a slur. What don't you understand about that!?

    The audacity to assume I dont know shit about a word and am able privileged is more offensive. Or jumping to a conclusion that I surely must not be neurodiverse is astonishing.

    You're the one who has the audacity to act like that word is okay! YOU are the one who is astonishing in just how little you care or understand about why that word is a slur! Again, take your ignorance elsewhere! Save it for one of the sh-thole forums like KVR and Gear Space. We don't need your uneducated sort here.

  • TurnItUpTurnItUp

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @TurnItUp said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    It's the same as racist language. Unless you're neurodiverse yourself or are close with someone who's neurodiverse, you don't understand sh-t about that word. Take your able privilege elsewhere!

    You are completely out of line. It is a pejorative word, meaning it is an adjective to describe disapproval, or to find something no good or of no importance ie. Faulty.

    YOU and Darkstring are the two who are out of line. It is an offensive discriminatory word. If you can't see that, then educate yourself! It is a slur. What don't you understand about that!?

    The audacity to assume I dont know shit about a word and am able privileged is more offensive. Or jumping to a conclusion that I surely must not be neurodiverse is astonishing.

    You're the one who has the audacity to act like that word is okay! YOU are the one who is astonishing in just how little you care or understand about why that word is a slur! Again, take your ignorance elsewhere! Save it for one of the sh-thole forums like KVR and Gear Space. We don't need your uneducated sort here.

    Isn't calling me uneducated the same? You could replace that word with the r-word. What kept you from saying im stupid and dumb as well? See this is the problem here hypocrites like yourself who run around and virtue signal. Meanwhile you can call me uneducated and get no punishment for it. Where is the removal of this offensive post CapnWillie? Or will it remain for all the forum to see that jwmmakerofmusic is a real hypocrit!

  • michael_mmichael_m

    @TurnItUp said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    It's the same as racist language. Unless you're neurodiverse yourself or are close with someone who's neurodiverse, you don't understand sh-t about that word. Take your able privilege elsewhere!

    You are completely out of line. It is a pejorative word, meaning it is an adjective to describe disapproval, or to find something no good or of no importance ie. Faulty.

    The audacity to assume I dont know shit about a word and am able privileged is more offensive. Or jumping to a conclusion that I surely must not be neurodiverse is astonishing.

    It’s not audacity when a dictionary does not support your assertion:

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/retard

    You should read this and understand the offense that you have caused.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @TurnItUp said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @TurnItUp said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    It's the same as racist language. Unless you're neurodiverse yourself or are close with someone who's neurodiverse, you don't understand sh-t about that word. Take your able privilege elsewhere!

    You are completely out of line. It is a pejorative word, meaning it is an adjective to describe disapproval, or to find something no good or of no importance ie. Faulty.

    YOU and Darkstring are the two who are out of line. It is an offensive discriminatory word. If you can't see that, then educate yourself! It is a slur. What don't you understand about that!?

    The audacity to assume I dont know shit about a word and am able privileged is more offensive. Or jumping to a conclusion that I surely must not be neurodiverse is astonishing.

    You're the one who has the audacity to act like that word is okay! YOU are the one who is astonishing in just how little you care or understand about why that word is a slur! Again, take your ignorance elsewhere! Save it for one of the sh-thole forums like KVR and Gear Space. We don't need your uneducated sort here.

    Isn't calling me uneducated the same? You could replace that word with the r-word. What kept you from saying im stupid and dumb as well? See this is the problem here hypocrites like yourself who run around and virtue signal. Meanwhile you can call me uneducated and get no punishment for it. Where is the removal of this offensive post CapnWillie? Or will it remain for all the forum to see that jwmmakerofmusic is a real hypocrit!

    And you're making a strawman argument, equating the inflammatory r-word to a word like "uneducated", and trying to paint me as a hypocrite. Nice try.

    In reality, you're trying to downplay the severity of the r-word and trying to normalise it. Would you try to also normalise the n-word and try to downplay racism?

  • michael_mmichael_m

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @TurnItUp said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @TurnItUp said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    It's the same as racist language. Unless you're neurodiverse yourself or are close with someone who's neurodiverse, you don't understand sh-t about that word. Take your able privilege elsewhere!

    You are completely out of line. It is a pejorative word, meaning it is an adjective to describe disapproval, or to find something no good or of no importance ie. Faulty.

    YOU and Darkstring are the two who are out of line. It is an offensive discriminatory word. If you can't see that, then educate yourself! It is a slur. What don't you understand about that!?

    The audacity to assume I dont know shit about a word and am able privileged is more offensive. Or jumping to a conclusion that I surely must not be neurodiverse is astonishing.

    You're the one who has the audacity to act like that word is okay! YOU are the one who is astonishing in just how little you care or understand about why that word is a slur! Again, take your ignorance elsewhere! Save it for one of the sh-thole forums like KVR and Gear Space. We don't need your uneducated sort here.

    Isn't calling me uneducated the same? You could replace that word with the r-word. What kept you from saying im stupid and dumb as well? See this is the problem here hypocrites like yourself who run around and virtue signal. Meanwhile you can call me uneducated and get no punishment for it. Where is the removal of this offensive post CapnWillie? Or will it remain for all the forum to see that jwmmakerofmusic is a real hypocrit!

    And you're making a strawman argument, equating the inflammatory r-word to a word like "uneducated", and trying to paint me as a hypocrite. Nice try.

    In reality, you're trying to downplay the severity of the r-word and trying to normalise it. Would you try to also normalise the n-word and try to downplay racism?

    I think you’re wasting your breath Jim. He’s obviously made up his mind that he has an entitlement to use offensive words because he’s been told of an excuse he can use if he’s called out on it.

    Sorry that you have to deal with ignorance like this.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @michael_m said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @TurnItUp said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @TurnItUp said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    It's the same as racist language. Unless you're neurodiverse yourself or are close with someone who's neurodiverse, you don't understand sh-t about that word. Take your able privilege elsewhere!

    You are completely out of line. It is a pejorative word, meaning it is an adjective to describe disapproval, or to find something no good or of no importance ie. Faulty.

    YOU and Darkstring are the two who are out of line. It is an offensive discriminatory word. If you can't see that, then educate yourself! It is a slur. What don't you understand about that!?

    The audacity to assume I dont know shit about a word and am able privileged is more offensive. Or jumping to a conclusion that I surely must not be neurodiverse is astonishing.

    You're the one who has the audacity to act like that word is okay! YOU are the one who is astonishing in just how little you care or understand about why that word is a slur! Again, take your ignorance elsewhere! Save it for one of the sh-thole forums like KVR and Gear Space. We don't need your uneducated sort here.

    Isn't calling me uneducated the same? You could replace that word with the r-word. What kept you from saying im stupid and dumb as well? See this is the problem here hypocrites like yourself who run around and virtue signal. Meanwhile you can call me uneducated and get no punishment for it. Where is the removal of this offensive post CapnWillie? Or will it remain for all the forum to see that jwmmakerofmusic is a real hypocrit!

    And you're making a strawman argument, equating the inflammatory r-word to a word like "uneducated", and trying to paint me as a hypocrite. Nice try.

    In reality, you're trying to downplay the severity of the r-word and trying to normalise it. Would you try to also normalise the n-word and try to downplay racism?

    I think you’re wasting your breath Jim. He’s obviously made up his mind that he has an entitlement to use offensive words because he’s been told of an excuse he can use if he’s called out on it.

    Sorry that you have to deal with ignorance like this.

    It's okay mate. Probably best if the mods locked this thread. Lol. This is the type of rubbish I'd expect from places like KVR and Gear Space, which is why I avoid those forums.

  • CapnWillieCapnWillie

    I’d like to thank all who contributed positive and relevant thoughts to the OP.

    I’m closing this discussion now as I’m fairly confident that no one interested in the OP wants to wade through where this discussion is now.

    I’ll deal with the other stuff with further advice from @Michael and the other mods.

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