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What are your music goals for 2024?

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  • fisherrofisherro

    This year I released my first EP and expanded a Christmas medley I’d recorded a few years ago and released it as a single.

    So this year, my primary goal next year is to release an EP of original songs. (This year’s EP was all instrumental tunes.) Secondary goal is to put out another Christmas tune.

    I’m also working on my keyboard skills. I find myself at the keys a lot more these days and really feel myself running up against my limits. But on the positive side it makes me feel like a virtuoso whenever I pick up a guitar afterwards.

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  • GavinskiGavinski

    @mambonassau said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Kind of nice to see so many ‘buy fewer apps and learn to use what I have’ comments. Feels like more people are getting tired of the whole compulsive buying of new musical tools. I also feel that exposure to too many apps is becoming a hindrance in my musical development at this point, rather than an aid.

    100% this. Despite its best intentions, I often feel like the Internet music sphere's endgame - much like that of TV commercials - has become to make us all a) vaguely dissatisfied with what we already have and b) obsessed with gathering new toys, as though we'd all have A Workflow For The Ages if only we could obtain the right pickups or samplers or Space Echo emulations or AI-driven EQs/mastering chains or whatever. The impulse to find a "secret weapon" or a "pro level setup" or "an ideally productive system" can become a weird fugue state of acquisition/upkeep, and I've found that it has started to undermine my creativity. At root, it feels like a black hole that's basically reduced me from low-level-but-diligent artist to well-stocked-but-underproductive hobbyist.

    Don't get me wrong: putting better tools in your quiver can be wonderful. One of the great production boons of the last decade is how easily one can now get a high quality Pultec EQ clone plugin, a studio quality Chinese mic, or a pile of sampled presets from a workstation that used to cost $2000. I'm beyond enthusiastic about how (relatively) cheap it is to get good tools in 2023, as my Gospel Musicians libraries and now-native UAD plugins - to say nothing of minor miracles like NAM and Tonex - have made it easier to nail down and shape sounds I love without bothering the neighbors too much: the Fela Kuti Rhodes sound, say, or Kim Deal's sweet Marshall crunch on the Breeders' Last Splash. Heck, the reason I first responded to the iPad was how flush it was with these kinds of "gifts," from Patterning (still the finest drum machine ever made) to Koala to even BeatHawk, and one of the reasons I'm considering selling my MPC Live is that it's nearly obviated by the aforementioned apps. (The only reason I'm still on the fence is the MPC's far superior I/O and sequencing options.)

    That said, I do think diminishing returns are a thing, and the GAS undergirding every music forum, YT channel, & (via relentless Google Ads) social media feed seems more and more like it's meant to enforce some ineffable, perhaps impossible creative dream of what "real" production looks like. In practice, that means we're meant to feel like we need a Digitakt, OP-1F, genuine Moog, $210 copy of Soothe2, Neve 1073, Neumann U47FET for kick, etc. just to make a GD recording - or, alternately, that any frustration in a workflow means we haven't "bonded" with what he have and should buy something shiny and new to finally (finally!) start making "professional" music. Most of us can get by with one delay app/plugin, but we almost accidentally buy five; we could live with one sampler, but instead comparison shop the entire category, trawling the internet for reviews, testimonies, Loopop demos, and so on. Notably, I'm not above this. I regularly consider buying an SP404 Mk II, despite the fact that Koala (and SquareBeat) already do 95% of what it does. I comparison shop for mics on YouTube, despite the fact that I already own around 30 mics, including some high-end studio "classics." Like everyone else, I reflexively keep on top of new music tech; at this point, it's nearly a tic.

    But there's the rub: what is the point of this reflexive daily survey of the market? What am I actually accomplishing when I watch Bad Gear or Produce Like a Pro or the JHS Show or an Andertons demo? Every moment spent eyeballing the new Chandler TG Type L could be used to actually record something on my EV RE20. Instead of pondering the Polyend Tracker for hours (days?), I could build a basic track in Gadget and export it to my desktop DAW for overdubs/tinkering. In my 20s, I probably wrote and recorded ~100 songs, and all of my equipment was mid-level at best. I had GarageBand, an SM57, and some cheap gear I'd been acquiring since middle school (Strat, cheap practice amp and drum kit, etc.). For effects, I might play an acoustic guitar into an old cassette Walkman or double a drum part with a slight, eerie change in tuning on the overdub. It wasn't much at all, but that rag & bone shop of a "studio" produced demos for multiple bands, including a few tracks for a regional indie rock comps. Back then, I used to rue my limited resources - I wanted Adam monitors, a more powerful computer, an 8-track interface for close-miking my floor tom, etc. But I produced nonetheless; I didn't think I could buy myself into creativity and, even if I had, I didn't have the funds to try. I accepted my modest setup and got used to figuring out workarounds.

    And, honestly, I've realized that's the key to a lot of this for me: letting a process happen and setting aside time. As an exhausted middle-aged guy navigating a day job, side hustles, debt, tinnitus, etc., I'm as susceptible to the music sphere's myths of efficiency & The Perfect Tool as anyone else. I have spent evenings researching the best U87 clone and looking at 45-minute how-tos on "Swiss army knife" software (and HW) synths whose sounds didn't move me. I have watched Stereolab performances and focused on the mere fact of Laetitia Sadier's Moog Opus, not how she played it. But I also have an MFA, and I am well aware this all just shopping as a kind of magical thinking - a way of avoiding the conversation with oneself that is, at the end of the day, the only functional way to produce art that has value to me. I mean, Damon Albarn writes and arranges his Gorillaz/Blur material in GarageBand, friends. Plenty of great hip-hop has been made using a turntable, sampler, and $400 mic. On the previously mentioned Last Splash, Kim Deal miked her sister's sewing machine through a Marshall and sang songs crouched over the sympathetic inner strings of a grand piano to get cool effects. The Animal Collective's first several records are basically a junk shop of cheap pedals, amps, field recordings, one-mic group chanting, and no-name drum hardware. Making something fresh, interesting, soulful, and/or clever isn't necessarily a game of accumulating tools. Rather, it's a matter of sitting down every day and making the tools you have express something.

    Pardon the ramble! I've been having an oddly philosophical moment with the Internet music world lately, and it sometimes feels like an AA-style "moment of clarity" (albeit a low-level variant of same). I suppose it comes down to my own boundaries re: art vs. commerce, as well as an innate suspicion of anything that screams "addictive behavior" (e.g. words like "instabuy") or "multi-level marketing scheme" (e.g. those semi-ironic threads about "snippets nuggets" that inevitably lend advance hype to new apps). Like Gavinski, I'm glad to see that folks are slowing their respective rolls and working with what they have. But, as you can see above, I'm definitely responding to my own context, creative and otherwise; as they often say on another forum I'm leaving for a while, YMMV.

    Absolutely fantastic post! I don't have the time for an equally long and thoughtful reply although I would also have a lot to say, perhaps not as eloquently. I will say this though. Before I got into iOS music and started my YouTube channel, my main musical outlet was playing acoustic guitar and singing, initially covers, but later my own stuff, which I performed solo, in duos, trios and bands. Never did any studio recordings for various reasons and have only rough practice recordings etc that I would not share publically.

    Gear was NEVER part of the picture for me in any meaningful sense. I had a good mic, a good guitar that suited my playing style perfectly, a small but quality guitar / vocal amp which I used at home and sometimes brought to gigs in small venues, and a DI box that I used when connecting to mixers in venues. That was it, for many years. I briefly got a tc helicon harmonizer and looper box (don't even remember the name, that's how little a shit5i gave about gear), which I did find interesting and which pushed me in new directions, but it stopped working after about a year of having it and I never bothered replacing it.

    At home I rarely ever even played plugged in.

    Not focusing on gear meant that I was extemely productive and I wrote some genuinely great stuff (IMHO lol).

    Fast forward to the past few years of immersion in ipad music making and apps. App collecting was very useful for a while, as a way of learning about things, seeing what clicked with me etc. I do genuinely enjoy experimenting with sound. It's a totally different thing from writing songs, but can be equally enjoyable.

    And yet, I'm definitely at the point of feeling that returns are diminishing fast, very fast, on a personal growth level, as a result of being too scattered. Sooo many apps have been released this past two years. Trying to keep up with them is genuinely becoming a pain in the ass for me. I'm losing the love of acquiring and collecting, even though I'm definitely an addict, in this regard. I also HATE the fact that my channel, ostensibly an education channel, is also basically a marketing channel, and almost always unpaid marketing at that, and I know that channels like mine drive gas/aas.

    Even if it is ultimately the individual's responsibility (and that's a genuine 'if') we can't pretend that we are not social animals, deeply interconnected and influenced by each other, and I despise any kind of solution in any area of human life that overfocuses on the individual and ignores the role of the wider community or society at large.

    It's unfortunately extemely difficult not to get dragged down the hole of contributing to consumerism if you even have very modest aspirations to make a living from doing educational videos in the music app / gear space. Still, it's something I've been pondering deeply recently.

  • Slam_CutSlam_Cut

    🧐🤔
    Hard to follow those two epic posts.

    My Music Goals for the New Year:

    • [ ] Buy more apps and never use them
    • [ ] Buy more hardware synths and leave them in the box
    • [ ] Buy apps and books on music theory and neglect the hell out of those
    • [ ] Promise myself to learn piano and know that I won’t
    • [ ] Harshly judge my own music and not release any

    Same as last year.

  • dendydendy

    @Luxthor said:
    To reach goals from the 2023! 😳

    :-D Yeah pretty much this :+1: :+1: :+1:

  • klownshedklownshed
    edited December 2023

    @michael_m said:

    @klownshed said:

    @michael_m said:

    Keep going Jim, and eventually we will have him listening to Ornette Coleman’s ‘Free Jazz’ and Peter Brötzmann’s ‘Machine Gun’.


    Sounds like a challenge. :-)

    Well there’s no piano to hate on either album…

    I don’t hate piano. Quite the opposite. Piano is one of my favourite instruments. It’s not the instrument itself I don’t like in jazz, just the way it’s played.

    Take away the piano and you still have the parts I don’t connect with.

    Musio has "Piano in Blue" as one of the libraries which is a capture of the actual piano used in "Kind of Blue" and it is lovely. I love the tone and sound of it.

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @mambonassau said:
    And, honestly, I've realized that's the key to a lot of this for me: letting a process happen and setting aside time.

    That's the key to it, isn't it? Just make time every day to create, and finish things. When done consistently it can work miracles.

    There is one small corner of the forum where I try and encourage creation rather than consumption, and also try to foster a sense of community and mutual sharing and feedback, but very few seem interested in participating. I've run the Song Of The Month Club since February 2015, and interestingly it was much busier in the early days, very few people seem interested now. I don't mind, because I do it for myself more than anyone else, but I would say the percentage of forum members who are genuinely interested in songwriting and/or creating finished tracks is tiny.

    There are a handful of artists here who consistently put music out there, on a very regular basis. @Svetlovska @GeoTony @Paulieworld @LinearLineman @jwmmakerofmusic @jo92346 and @echoopera are probably the most prolific creators here. Let's raise our glass to them and emulate their work ethic 🥂

  • Michael_R_GrantMichael_R_Grant
    edited December 2023

    In 2024 I want to figure out what the fuck to do, musically. Before Covid I had an alternative rock band that was a lot of fun. Since lockdown, though, I've had nothing. I've had cool times noodling around on my iPad, Ableton and my Elektron devices, but have barely finished any songs. I need to decide whether to become a proper solo act where I can control everything, including the amount of gigging, or start up another proper band, or become a duo or trio. The idea of being in a group of 2 or 3 committed people sounds attractive. I just want to write and perform a whole bunch of original Radiohead/Thom Yorke-y kinda music, with no drag factor on the amount of gigging, and release some stuff. I loved my old band, but the other main songwriter only wanted to perform live every so often and that was a real pain. I need to get my performance skills into shape! This wouldn't be a career (I have a day job that would be hard to give up unless the music improbably became mega-successful!), but a dedicated hobby. Bouncing off other people musically is the best!

    So if anyone lives in Bristol in the UK, is aged between 35-50 and wants to do the above, get in touch! I sing, play guitar badly, do cool stuff with electronic hardware and write good lyrics! :)

  • SvetlovskaSvetlovska
    edited December 2023

    Goals for 2024 ( (c) Samuel Beckett ):

    Try. Fail. Try again. Fail better.

  • klownshedklownshed
    edited December 2023

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    @klownshed Now I'm definitely curious as to what your favourite genre(s) is/are. :)

    I’m not great with knowing what the genres are. According to Apple Music most of the stuff I like is Alternative or Electronic.

    My most listened to albums from 2023 are from Nine Inch Nails (I also love Trent Reznor And Atticus Ross’ soundtrack work), Depeche Mode, Archive and stuff like that. I like alternative and electronic stuff and also I like to listen to classical and soundtrack music. And when I’m in the mood a bit of industrial. I like ‘classic’ punk too.

    As a child of the 80s I grew up loving all the synth pop bands (Yazoo, DM, Gary Numan, Eurythmics, etc on to mid 80s Per Shop Boys, Frankie goes to Hollywood) and also stuff like Specials, Madness, Adam and the Ants, Killing Joke, the Cure, the Cult, Jesus and Mary Chain, Sisters of Mercy then into the 90s I loved Radiohead, Blur, Mansun et al, The dance crossovers like prodigy, leftfield, chemical bros. And then all the 90s Warp stuff like Aphex Twin, Plaid, red snapper, to a lesser extent Squarepusher (can veer too close to jazz! lol), sample based stuff like Beastie Boys, DJ shadow, UNKLE. Massive Attack, Editors, Curve, Pj Harvey (and almost anything produced by Flood)…

    I also like stuff like Sonoio, Motor. Allesandro Cortini, Clark, Rival Consoles, Jon Hopkins, Dangermouse.

    I like a lot of other music too. Jazz and C&W top my fingernails on the blackboard list.

    I love Annie Lennox. Dislike Mariah.
    Like Steve Jones, David Gilmore, Jonny Greenwood. Dislike Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Shredders for the sake of it.

    Basically i don’t tend to enjoy show offs. I like instrumentation to be for the benefit of the song, not to show the world how technically proficient you are. Annie Lennox is up there with the very best but is happy to sing a monotone verse. Mariah wouldn’t be able to stop herself showing off her full range ever bar or two.

    And I tend to favour minor chords over major… and discordant can be good.

    I do find that some jazz fans use the fact that it can be difficult to listen to as a way of showing off how superior their musical knowledge is and how much better they are in general ;-) . I’m not impressed by somebody using 33 chords where 3 would be more than sufficient. Or cramming 14 notes into each chord where 3 sounds better.

    But hey. This is concentrating too much on the negatives. Music is a positive in my life. I don’t want a throwaway joke about disliking jazz to make me come across as a negative person. I love music. I listen to a lot of music and try not to be too narrow in my selections.

    We all have our likes and dislikes and it shouldn't colour our perception of each other either. I'm not holding the fact you might like C&W against you! (Actually I probably am :lol:) (joke)

  • michael_mmichael_m

    @klownshed said:
    I’m not impressed by somebody using 33 chords where 3 would be more than sufficient.

  • klownshedklownshed

    @richardyot said:
    I've run the Song Of The Month Club since February 2015, and interestingly it was much busier in the early days, very few people seem interested now. I don't mind, because I do it for myself more than anyone else, but I would say the percentage of forum members who are genuinely interested in songwriting and/or creating finished tracks is tiny.

    I think SOTMC is a great idea and I'm still blown away that you've not missed a month in all these years. I think my record might be three tunes submitted to the SOTMC in one year? Maybe two?

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @klownshed said:

    @richardyot said:
    I've run the Song Of The Month Club since February 2015, and interestingly it was much busier in the early days, very few people seem interested now. I don't mind, because I do it for myself more than anyone else, but I would say the percentage of forum members who are genuinely interested in songwriting and/or creating finished tracks is tiny.

    I think SOTMC is a great idea and I'm still blown away that you've not missed a month in all these years. I think my record might be three tunes submitted to the SOTMC in one year? Maybe two?

    Let's see if you can make it 12 in 2024! 😉

  • PaulieworldPaulieworld

    @richardyot said:

    @mambonassau said:
    And, honestly, I've realized that's the key to a lot of this for me: letting a process happen and setting aside time.

    That's the key to it, isn't it? Just make time every day to create, and finish things. When done consistently it can work miracles.

    There is one small corner of the forum where I try and encourage creation rather than consumption, and also try to foster a sense of community and mutual sharing and feedback, but very few seem interested in participating. I've run the Song Of The Month Club since February 2015, and interestingly it was much busier in the early days, very few people seem interested now. I don't mind, because I do it for myself more than anyone else, but I would say the percentage of forum members who are genuinely interested in songwriting and/or creating finished tracks is tiny.

    There are a handful of artists here who consistently put music out there, on a very regular basis. @Svetlovska @GeoTony @Paulieworld @LinearLineman @jwmmakerofmusic @jo92346 and @echoopera are probably the most prolific creators here. Let's raise our glass to them and emulate their work ethic 🥂

    Thank you so much for including me among these members. I am humbled!

  • GeoTonyGeoTony

    Thanks for the mention @richardyot . I’m also humbled.
    I think I produce so much because I’m absolutely over the moon that I can produce music of any sort. After 20+ years of not playing anything, finding GeoShred in 2019 and AUM in 2020 opened up a wonderful new world for me. Kid in a candy store doesn’t come close.
    This and a low quality threshold means I inflict it on others as well 😊
    I do agree with you that there seems to be lots of members unwilling, frightened , too shy… the reason doesn’t really matter… to post their work. Just do it, you won’t regret it!
    I also think you do a great job with the song of the month club. More power to your elbow or whichever part of your body you prefer 💪
    PS it’s obviously also absolutely fine not to post work… no rights, wrongs etc as far as I’m concerned 🤟

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @michael_m said:

    @klownshed said:
    I’m not impressed by somebody using 33 chords where 3 would be more than sufficient.

    😂🤣

    @richardyot Thank you for the shout out mate. :) I apologise if I haven't participated in SOTMC in a long while. Sometimes I'm unable to create, and then I get a creative spurt and make track after track in quick succession. 😅 It's very inconsistent.

    @klownshed Now I see. You're not into showboating but rather people who make music for the sake of music. I can dig it. I'm surprised Crystal Method weren't mentioned as one of your faves. Their music is sublime. 😎

    I like classic C&W like Patsy Cline, Willie Nelson, etc. You can keep modern C&W. 😂 C&W isn't one of my preferred listening genres, but I do prefer the classics.

  • richardyotrichardyot

    Love me some country B)

  • klownshedklownshed

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @klownshed Now I see. You're not into showboating but rather people who make music for the sake of music. I can dig it.

    No, I really don't enjoy showboating! I'm far more impressed by the notes a really technically accomplished musician doesn't play. Shredding is the antithesis of what I personally enjoy. Annie Lennox > Mariah :-)

    I'm surprised Crystal Method weren't mentioned as one of your faves. Their music is sublime. 😎

    I don't mind the Crystal Method. I don't listen to them much, will add them to a playlist :-)

  • klownshedklownshed

    @richardyot said:

    Let's see if you can make it 12 in 2024! 😉

    Haha. Unlikely. I've never been prolific, at least in terms of having things I'm happy to share. Like probably everybody here, I have a gazillion ideas started -- lots of 8 bar loops waiting to get loaded into BlocsWave for further triaging. Lots of ideas I don't have the time to start even.

    It's much nicer having too many ideas. I went a long time not making any music at all. I'm slightly surprised at myself that I've managed to get back into it in a way that I'm not entirely disappointed with!

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @klownshed said:

    @richardyot said:

    Let's see if you can make it 12 in 2024! 😉

    Haha. Unlikely. I've never been prolific, at least in terms of having things I'm happy to share. Like probably everybody here, I have a gazillion ideas started -- lots of 8 bar loops waiting to get loaded into BlocsWave for further triaging. Lots of ideas I don't have the time to start even.

    It's much nicer having too many ideas. I went a long time not making any music at all. I'm slightly surprised at myself that I've managed to get back into it in a way that I'm not entirely disappointed with!

    You've posted some great stuff, so keep at it, at whatever pace works for you. 😃

  • klownshedklownshed

    @richardyot said:

    @klownshed said:

    @richardyot said:

    Let's see if you can make it 12 in 2024! 😉

    Haha. Unlikely. I've never been prolific, at least in terms of having things I'm happy to share. Like probably everybody here, I have a gazillion ideas started -- lots of 8 bar loops waiting to get loaded into BlocsWave for further triaging. Lots of ideas I don't have the time to start even.

    It's much nicer having too many ideas. I went a long time not making any music at all. I'm slightly surprised at myself that I've managed to get back into it in a way that I'm not entirely disappointed with!

    You've posted some great stuff, so keep at it, at whatever pace works for you. 😃

    Cheers :-)

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @richardyot said:

    There are a handful of artists here who consistently put music out there, on a very regular basis. @Svetlovska @GeoTony @Paulieworld @LinearLineman @jwmmakerofmusic @jo92346 and @echoopera are probably the most prolific creators here. Let's raise our glass to them and emulate their work ethic 🥂

    🥂

    My number 1 goal for 2024 is to get myself back on this list! ^^^

    I feel like if it were a year or so ago, I might have been included in that list as I was posting and sharing music quite frequently.

    Over the last year however, I’ve had a lot of “life” getting in the way, which narrowed my free time for music publishing, sharing, uploading, typing up descriptions etc., all of the “work” that it takes to share and/or publish music, tending to, and actually keep up with, and engage with people that might offer feedback, if I would be so fortunate.

    I had to shave off some of that time, while actually leaving myself a little bit for the actual making music part. Yes, I’ve still been creating, almost daily, but just haven’t had time for all of the “work” stuff mentioned above. The creating part is easy!

    The other thing is, I think, that I feel like the more and more I’ve learned, about music production, music theory, and song writing, the more self criticism emerges, and then I end up doubting myself, and keep feeling like one of my tracks isn’t “finished” and so “I’ll finish it later” and then toss it into the huge pile of unfinished projects that just accumulates.

    Yes, I have a giant backlog of “unfinished” IMO projects that I can never get around to, because I keep starting new ones! If somehow, someone could keep me from starting something brand new every time I sit down, that would be great!

    My other goal for 2024 is to play more guitar. Really, I’ve been neglecting my guitar playing, which is what led me to making music on the iPad in the first place. I’ve only been playing guitar since like 1982, but over the last year or so, I’ve only picked it up a handful of times. I have GOT to change that this year! (I used to play daily !)

    And I also really miss jamming live with a real drummer! I have a couple buddies that play the drums, and I’ve been invited to come play with them, but haven’t found the time yet. This is what I really want to do! There is nothing like playing live with other musicians. I miss it! Maybe 2024 will be the year that I get myself back into it.

  • GeoTonyGeoTony

    I always used to enjoy your work Edward ( @Edward_Alexander ) so I for one would love it if you started posting again.
    All the best for the new year 🙏

  • echooperaechoopera

    Thank you @richardyot for the shout out. Your work has been an inspiration to me 👊🏼🎚️

    Here’s to everyone in 2024 having that fire in them getting the kindling we each need to drive us to refine our process of creation 👆🏼🎚️

    Hope everyone has a great Christmas and blessed time with family and friends and loved ones.

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    Thank you Tony 🙏 (@GeoTony )

  • AlexYAlexY

    I think I have some modest goals:

    • finish an analysis of Motley Crue’s “Too Fast For Love” album and upload to Hook Theory’s database
    • Finish a cover of one of those songs but use synths instead of bass
    • have one song with lyrics even if they suck.
  • NeuMNeuM

    @Slam_Cut said:
    🧐🤔
    Hard to follow those two epic posts.

    My Music Goals for the New Year:

    • [ ] Buy more apps and never use them
    • [ ] Buy more hardware synths and leave them in the box
    • [ ] Buy apps and books on music theory and neglect the hell out of those
    • [ ] Promise myself to learn piano and know that I won’t
    • [ ] Harshly judge my own music and not release any

    Same as last year.

    And that’s exactly why personal goals should remain personal (and private), unless some specific goal requires the participation of other specialists, musicians or the like.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @klownshed said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    @klownshed Now I'm definitely curious as to what your favourite genre(s) is/are. :)

    I’m not great with knowing what the genres are. According to Apple Music most of the stuff I like is Alternative or Electronic.

    My most listened to albums from 2023 are from Nine Inch Nails (I also love Trent Reznor And Atticus Ross’ soundtrack work), Depeche Mode, Archive and stuff like that. I like alternative and electronic stuff and also I like to listen to classical and soundtrack music. And when I’m in the mood a bit of industrial. I like ‘classic’ punk too.

    As a child of the 80s I grew up loving all the synth pop bands (Yazoo, DM, Gary Numan, Eurythmics, etc on to mid 80s Per Shop Boys, Frankie goes to Hollywood) and also stuff like Specials, Madness, Adam and the Ants, Killing Joke, the Cure, the Cult, Jesus and Mary Chain, Sisters of Mercy then into the 90s I loved Radiohead, Blur, Mansun et al, The dance crossovers like prodigy, leftfield, chemical bros. And then all the 90s Warp stuff like Aphex Twin, Plaid, red snapper, to a lesser extent Squarepusher (can veer too close to jazz! lol), sample based stuff like Beastie Boys, DJ shadow, UNKLE. Massive Attack, Editors, Curve, Pj Harvey (and almost anything produced by Flood)…

    I also like stuff like Sonoio, Motor. Allesandro Cortini, Clark, Rival Consoles, Jon Hopkins, Dangermouse.

    I like a lot of other music too. Jazz and C&W top my fingernails on the blackboard list.

    I love Annie Lennox. Dislike Mariah.
    Like Steve Jones, David Gilmore, Jonny Greenwood. Dislike Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Shredders for the sake of it.

    Basically i don’t tend to enjoy show offs. I like instrumentation to be for the benefit of the song, not to show the world how technically proficient you are. Annie Lennox is up there with the very best but is happy to sing a monotone verse. Mariah wouldn’t be able to stop herself showing off her full range ever bar or two.

    And I tend to favour minor chords over major… and discordant can be good.

    I do find that some jazz fans use the fact that it can be difficult to listen to as a way of showing off how superior their musical knowledge is and how much better they are in general ;-) . I’m not impressed by somebody using 33 chords where 3 would be more than sufficient. Or cramming 14 notes into each chord where 3 sounds better.

    But hey. This is concentrating too much on the negatives. Music is a positive in my life. I don’t want a throwaway joke about disliking jazz to make me come across as a negative person. I love music. I listen to a lot of music and try not to be too narrow in my selections.

    We all have our likes and dislikes and it shouldn't colour our perception of each other either. I'm not holding the fact you might like C&W against you! (Actually I probably am :lol:) (joke)

    I’m a big fan of punk too! Who are some of your favorites? Dead Kennedys and Black Flag are 2 of my favorite bands ever. I guess I like hardcore punk a little more than the classics.

  • klownshedklownshed
    edited December 2023

    @HotStrange said:

    I’m a big fan of punk too! Who are some of your favorites? Dead Kennedys and Black Flag are 2 of my favorite bands ever. I guess I like hardcore punk a little more than the classics.

    Mainly late 70s UK Punk, so Sex Pistols, Buzzcocks, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Undertones, The Only Ones, that kind of stuff. Plus "Post punk" stuff like PiL, Killing Joke, Wire...

    I also liked the bands that kind of went Goth, led by Siouxie.

    I do like the Dead Kennedys. Following that thread, I liked the bands that kind of got interwoven during that period including a lot of the early US Industrial stuff (Ministry, etc.) into stuff like 'we care a lot' era Faith no More (I also like the Mike Patten era FNM too)...

    The more I list the more I remember and think I need to go and make some playlists (or find my old mixtapes and burned CDs!)

    The guitarist in my old band (unsigned!) is heavily into hardcore like Crass and Conflict and Discharge. We have recently mainly been making orchestral-ey dark/noire soundtrack like music which is completely devoid of punk guitars!

  • michael_mmichael_m

    @klownshed said:

    @HotStrange said:

    I’m a big fan of punk too! Who are some of your favorites? Dead Kennedys and Black Flag are 2 of my favorite bands ever. I guess I like hardcore punk a little more than the classics.

    Mainly late 70s UK Punk, so Sex Pistols, Buzzcocks, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Undertones, The Only Ones, that kind of stuff. Plus "Post punk" stuff like PiL, Killing Joke, Wire...

    You’re talking my language here. Such a great time for new music.

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