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LK vs BAM vs Sand vs Nodes ?!?
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LK is midi only. The others can host plugins.
(LK can also act as a controller controller for Ableton Live.)
I’m not gonna count LK since it’s a midi sequencer only with no hosting but the other 3 are fairly different.
BAM is a groovebox through and through. Doesn’t have the modularity of Drambo but is a ton of fun and very quick to get something going. The UI is sleek and easy to navigate, and the AU hosting just pushes it into the realm of greatness.
Nodes isn’t a groovebox at all. It’s an AU host with its own piano roll, sequencers, and arps and has a pretty unique workflow. I’d say it has more in common with AUM than anything but even then they’re both in their own lanes.
SAND is just a classic clip launcher/AU host. It’s been fun the times I’ve used it and the dev has a cool roadmap planned but it’s not as versatile as the other 2.
Yeah so many apps coming out now it’s hard to keep up with what they all do 😂
If you’re only/mostly after the midi features I’d sadly say to take BAM out as it seems to be aiming to be a groovebox first and a midi effect second. The other 3 are the opposite and would be far better for just launching midi clips. Do you have Drambo already?
Drambo might be the real thing you're looking for if you want an Auv3 clip launcher for Loopy. Nodes might do a cool job there too but Drambo offers a very solid environment already and an absolutely worrying amount of other features, expertly designed.🤣
Sand is the only one that somewhat handles MPE currently if that's a factor for you but it's also the least feature rich sequencer of the bunch. Sand also is an Auv3 host but not an Auv3 effect, you cannot run Sand inside another host.
I'd buy all of them and not use them, like you did with LK and Drambo. That way you won't have to worry about missing out on having the best apps.
„…Must possess ‘dem all…“
got them all (i'm on Nodes beta).
BAM is my favorite.
Nodes rocks on smaller screens and is perfectly usable even on my iPhone SE2.
Wow I missed the MPE update for SAND. That’s cool!
Drambo will probably do most/all of what you want. But I know the GAS is real for all of us 😂 and they all have their own unique workflow and features so in my opinion they’ve all earned their place on my iPad
Enjoy
only a little over a week before we’ll start to see lot more Nodes demos!
LK is great for recording and playing back automation in AUM. What AUM is missing.
Oh no, not a patch. Drambo's clip launcher sequencer is fully integrated and feature rich. It doesn't do audio clips (none of these options do) but it has a great sampler. It also has electron style parameter lock automation, which is EXTREMELY powerful and cool.
I don't think anyone here will deny that Drambo is top of the heap in this category still, just people stop mentioning it because it's top of the heap in MANY categories and starts to feel unfair to other developers.😂
I'm crossing my fingers that Loopy pro will give it it's first real competition in the sequencer category this year, but we won't know for a bit still.
... I'm still buying Nodes... 😉
After plugging Drambo I just want to mention that of course ALL the sequencers have great things to offer, and their various workflows always coax out different music.
My current motto is "buy everything, let God sort them out."
BAM and Nodes look like a lot of fun. I could see myself using them (particularly BAM) similarly to how I use my Novation Circuit. I’ve written tracks on the circuit which I then finish in my DAW, in a similar way to how I might write a song with an acoustic guitar or piano.
But I’m long since past wanting to use apps like AUM to cobble together a DIY DAW to finish tracks in. I have come to terms with the fact that I like and prefer a fully featured DAW as the hub of everything.
And I absolutely don’t want generative sequencers. I’m a control freak and want to write and place every note!
I had fun exploring modular DAW type things with ape matrix and AUM but they’re not for me other than to build little snippets of songs. I have no intention of getting further than an 8 bar loop from them now. I do like using them to make riffs, loops and drum beats which I like to use to feed BlocsWave. BW is my favourite iOS music app, especially on iPhone. I use BW to jam out arrangement ideas for songs and also to just come up with random shite from mixing and matching hundreds of loops I’ve made and using BW to match the scale and tempo.
I don’t have BAM (yet) but can see myself buying it one day when I’m a bit bored and out of ideas to just jam with.
I like to keep things simple with groove boxes and don’t want to use them to make the entire song. I’ve often come up with ideas that turn into full tracks from simple iOS groove boxes (and my Circuit).
Drambo doesn't have it all. But currently it offers more features than all of these other options IMO. Whether or not the features or workflow it offers works with your style is for you to decide. Workflow is far more important than features IMO but you can't decide that until you try.
For my use the workflow is good but doesn't record and sequence MPE data, doesn't do audio clips, doesn't allow enough midi mapping control for my live shows, and doesn't have a timeline for building songs in my studio work.
Right now my workflows revolve around Logic (because of MPE and Timeline), Loopy pro (because of audio loops and configurable control interface), Drambo (because it's a Swiss army knife of features and adds midi clips when hosted in Loopy), and Sand (because it's MPE compatible and is seamless to flip little fun projects between my phone and iPad)
I would drop everything if something offered:
MPE
Timeline
Custom Control interface
Audio clips
Midi clips
IPhone and iPad compatible
It's a tall order but Loopy is closest and promising to get even closer this year.
Nodes is looking into MPE right now and might be somewhat compatible at release. So I'm looking at Nodes possibly replacing Sand for me altogether, and replacing Drambo for midi clips in Loopy. I'd still use Drambo for synths, effects, and utilities tho.
Drambo covers so much ground it'll never be fully replaced so I think it's indispensable to learn and time well spent. But it still doesn't do EVERYTHING.
As I’ve had Logic since the beginning I’ve grown with it… it’s therefore has everything I need by kind of default.
So for me my search on iPad ended with Logic. I tend to stick to BlocsWave on my phone which is full of my stems and loops and stuff…
I have Drambo but haven’t really used it much.
Logic.
I could do everything I want on the iPad just using Logic and its stock plugins.
Dunno. I just use it as a musical scratchpad so the quality isn’t an issue. I use it for its immediacy and speed.
I can load up BW on my phone and it launches instantly and I can be working on an arrangement in seconds. From there I will often export to launchpad for quantized clip launching. Love them both for the light footprint.
When I’ve figured out the arrangement I use logic to finish the track. Sometimes that will be using the loops from BW but usually I have all the original parts to use directly in logic (worst case scenario I can re export) but I don’t really ever use anything above 16 bit for the individual tracks.
It’s not like I’m releasing commercial music.
TBH once it’s an mp3 I can’t tell the difference between a project I’ve made at 24 bit and another at 16 so i just stick to 16 bit.
The only time I use 24 bit is for exporting a 2 track before ‘mastering’.