LK vs BAM vs Sand vs Nodes ?!?

Tentype

@klownshed said:

@tja said:

@klownshed said:

I had fun exploring modular DAW type things with ape matrix and AUM but they’re not for me other than to build little snippets of songs. I have no intention of getting further than an 8 bar loop from them now. I do like using them to make riffs, loops and drum beats which I like to use to feed BlocsWave. BW is my favourite iOS music app, especially on iPhone. I use BW to jam out arrangement ideas for songs and also to just come up with random shite from mixing and matching hundreds of loops I’ve made and using BW to match the scale and tempo.

Hmmm.

I deleted BlocsWave after the release of Loopy Pro ...

Can it handle 24 or 32 bit audio files?

Dunno. I just use it as a musical scratchpad so the quality isn’t an issue. I use it for its immediacy and speed.

I can load up BW on my phone and it launches instantly and I can be working on an arrangement in seconds. From there I will often export to launchpad for quantized clip launching. Love them both for the light footprint.

When I’ve figured out the arrangement I use logic to finish the track. Sometimes that will be using the loops from BW but usually I have all the original parts to use directly in logic (worst case scenario I can re export) but I don’t really ever use anything above 16 bit for the individual tracks.

It’s not like I’m releasing commercial music.

TBH once it’s an mp3 I can’t tell the difference between a project I’ve made at 24 bit and another at 16 so i just stick to 16 bit.

The only time I use 24 bit is for exporting a 2 track before ‘mastering’.

I'm just curious, but if logic was iPhone compatible would you ditch BW and just use logics live loops to build tracks? Or does live loops not work for you?

I love logic, I find it absolutely perfect for "studio work" since I'm coming from Ableton on desktop. these days im building sets for live shows though so it's all about Loopy. Maybe one day logic will figure out its midi mapping and then maybe live shows with it could happen. 🤷🏽‍♂️

klownshed

@Tentype said:

@klownshed said:

@tja said:

@klownshed said:

I had fun exploring modular DAW type things with ape matrix and AUM but they’re not for me other than to build little snippets of songs. I have no intention of getting further than an 8 bar loop from them now. I do like using them to make riffs, loops and drum beats which I like to use to feed BlocsWave. BW is my favourite iOS music app, especially on iPhone. I use BW to jam out arrangement ideas for songs and also to just come up with random shite from mixing and matching hundreds of loops I’ve made and using BW to match the scale and tempo.

Hmmm.

I deleted BlocsWave after the release of Loopy Pro ...

Can it handle 24 or 32 bit audio files?

Dunno. I just use it as a musical scratchpad so the quality isn’t an issue. I use it for its immediacy and speed.

I can load up BW on my phone and it launches instantly and I can be working on an arrangement in seconds. From there I will often export to launchpad for quantized clip launching. Love them both for the light footprint.

When I’ve figured out the arrangement I use logic to finish the track. Sometimes that will be using the loops from BW but usually I have all the original parts to use directly in logic (worst case scenario I can re export) but I don’t really ever use anything above 16 bit for the individual tracks.

It’s not like I’m releasing commercial music.

TBH once it’s an mp3 I can’t tell the difference between a project I’ve made at 24 bit and another at 16 so i just stick to 16 bit.

The only time I use 24 bit is for exporting a 2 track before ‘mastering’.

I'm just curious, but if logic was iPhone compatible would you ditch BW and just use logics live loops to build tracks? Or does live loops not work for you?

I could do that with GB now but BW is just much lighter weight. I’d stick to BW for that particular task as it’s so fast and has no friction compared to a DAW. Also BW is simpler for transposing and time stretching as you enter the tempo and scale details upon import then never need to worry about it again.

And as it has one big pool of loops it’s far quicker to get to them all.

I don’t think I’d want to use logic on an iPhone. Even though i started with logic on a Mac with a 9” display with just 512 pixels across!

So yeah. I’d still use BW as a kind of iTunes for my own partial tracks. Which lets me mix and match all the loops.

The only thing I’d change about BlocsWave is the file handling. It needs maybe folder support and better filtering of user loops (such as show user drums, user base, etc) as I’ve got so many loops in there now.

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klownshed

@tja said:
@klownshed Combine BW with Sample Crate?

Sample Crate wouldn’t really be a benefit for the way that I use BW — importing from outside of BW isn’t really the issue.

The samples I tend to want are already in BW and if they’re not they’re easy for me to find as I save all my stems in iCloud Drive so know exactly where to find my stems. They are already well organised in the files app as I do that in the finder on the Mac.

My samples are usually named by track name and when I export them from Logic I have it set up to automatically append the project name, scale and bpm.

dreamcartel

Nodes - not even a fair comparison

Jeezs

I use many softwares ( Bam,,LK, Nodes) but none of them can be compare to loopy pro in terms of possibilities and flexibility except the UX that can be a bit weaker than the competition.
Only AUM can compete but at the cost of a very complicated workflow

Context

@dreamcartel said:
Nodes - not even a fair comparison

Telstar5

@HotStrange :Thanks for explaining the difference between BAM and Nodes.

HotStrange

@Telstar5 said:
@HotStrange :Thanks for explaining the difference between BAM and Nodes.

No problem at all 👍🏻