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no option popped up in my case…
This is from @138389 experience with importing the iamYork Hilda Pack... "When I selected all the individual presets and shared them (via Files) with Hilda (via the Share Sheet) Hilda said she’s imported them (to the User Bank not a specific iamYork Bank). But she’d only imported the first patch, no others.
So I went back to Files, selected all patches and Compressed them (.Zip) from the sub menu and called the file ‘iamYork’. When I shared the zip file to Hilda she successfully imported all patches in a specific bank called 'iamYork'"
I hope this helps a bit...
unfortunately no, it doesn’t help: expanding then compressing the file again makes no difference in my Hilda’s behavior… As a matter of fact, when I select any zip file full of presets and opt for share:
and this is also true for preset banks I successfully loaded long ago!
I wrote and documented this to the dev — and I’m expecting a solution soon; will keep you informed.
I didn't even know Hilda was functional on iPhone... Strange it's not working... Is it an older iPad? I don't know much about the technical aspects of iOS apps but the preset importing seems to be a headache here compared to other apps... I only bought a few packs from @DMTCYMATICSDreamMusicTemple in past but for other apps and it never was as frustrating as it was with Hilda and Noir... I hope the dev can help you out... I have been told @brambos is pretty active here and usually responds frequently...
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Opening stuff in iOS is a bit wild-west and seemingly changes with every iOS update.
I just tried it on the latest iOS version by sending a zip with presets to my iPhone and iPad. In both cases it works as expected; it saves the zip file in Files and gives me the option to open it in Hilda (in the top right corner of the Files app):
With mail.app, we’re going back to square one: so, which are the successive steps that end up letting files display that “Open in Hilda” option in blue?
I’ve tried each item in both save menus: no such option…
What happens when you save to Downloads, and then open that file in Files.app?
I just tried it via email on my iPad. When downloading the attachment from the email it saves it in Files, and then you can send it to Hilda using the share-sheet (at least on my end this works):
Well, nothing special: I’ve tried all 7 options from both save menus to be sure… Unless I’m operating my iPhone, I never see Hilda’s icon between AirDrop and Messages — never, not at all !
And the path to the saved file doesn’t make any difference, be it saved in Downloads, Documents, or whatever…
I think this issue is that there is a long-standing OS bug that when there are more potential receiving apps for zip files than
fit in the “other apps” pop up the desired target app might not be listed.
It is super frustrating for those with a ton of music apps.
Yes... To be on the safe side, really every music app needs to have its own import button which opens the files app and allows you to select, right within the app itself, what you want to import. This is the only way to guarantee that no one ever has problems painlessly importing multiple presets.
i agree @Gavinski ... I'm a massive @brambos fan and own all of their apps but the import process seems a bit dated... I'm thinking of sharing all of my Ruismaker Noir presets next but that also has import "complications". I don't know if they've been updated but last time i added @ElectronisoundsAudio Noir pack, some time back, but I remember it almost lead me to using my replica Mjölnir to tap dance along my iPad... hahah... I'm not an iOS programmer so I have no idea how much work it might involve to make these changes... Hilda def has improved with the custom banks but I feel multiple people have been having some issues importing, myself included when attempting to import @Pxlhg 's pack recently too...
Sorry, I thought you were looking for the option in the actual Save menus. When you try to share the file and see the line of app icons (AirDrop, Messages), what happens when you scroll to the extreme right, hit “More” and scroll through the list of extra apps? Does Hilda appear under “Suggestions”?
Okay, I just bought the pack (my curiosity was piqued!) and tried to open it on my iPhone, which I rarely use for music, just to see what would happen.
I installed Hilda and tried to share to it, and as @espiegel123 suggests, there seems to be a bug that withholds a bunch of apps from the Suggestions list.
I then followed the advice of @Iwato_Hyena and copied the file to Dropbox, and from within Dropbox I managed to save it to Hilda — the list of available apps was much longer, and included a bunch of AUv3s like Mononoke. After doing this, Hilda (and the others) appeared in the share sheet globally.
No: on my iPad, Hilda never appears in the share options, regardless of the list… I guess the issue comes from the files app itself: it’s now bigger than 14 GB (from settings/general/iPad Storage), i.e. almost three times the next biggest app, and I fear it wasn’t designed to be that large…
I regularly have problems with the Share sheet. Others here on the forum have said in the past that the problem is due to the number of apps someone has installed, not the space taken up by Files. Apple should allow users more freedom to customise available apps to share to. They still haven't, so they might never do. In the meantime, the best solution for apps that may need multiple files to be imported simultaneously (ie any app with presets, so basically most music production apps) is for devs to add a dedicated import button inside the app itself.
Did you try the Dropbox trick mentioned upstream? As I mentioned, I had exactly the same problem as you, and saving it from Dropbox somehow unlocked a great many apps’ appearance in my share sheet.
Dropbox was what i had to use to import. Every other method failed for me. I dont use dropbix otherwise. I only keep it on my ipad to import into Hilda and Noir...
How did iVCS3 get to be almost 5GB?
As far as I know, the only way to save from Dropbox is by using the Save to device option, which gets me yet another copy of the original file, albeit not more willing to be shared with Hilda — the share sheet doesn’t mutate at all, and isn’t augmented in any way: already 112 applications and actions, all in random order…
Oh, and I’ve also tried Dropbox’s share option, which doesn’t bring anything new:
Subtract 105.4 MB, and you get the size of the presets I saved and accumulated during 8 years…
Thanks. I have all the presets available in the store and I’m at 229 MB. Shrug.
Uh oh, this means that those 5 GB of mine are leftover from multiple editing and saving…
Is there a way to purge the cache files involved? I thought that hard reboots cleared most of these — I reboot at least once a week these days — but there must be a more efficient solution!
In this instance, “Save to device” shouldn’t create yet another file if Hilda is the target in the options, which it was for me when it was absent from the share sheet. Here, you don’t use the share sheet — the option to save it directly to Hilda was in the save options, one of many apps, in a list much longer than my share sheet’s. IIRC, I had to scroll quite a bit to see it in the list.
Only after the file was imported to Hilda did the system share sheet change to include Hilda as a destination. It somehow got unlocked for future imports.
Good question. Maybe drop Alessandro an email?
http://www.apesoft.it/info/
Thanks for the suggestion: I’ve done just that!
Thanks for the advice, but my case, the save sheet is identical to the share sheet, i.e. 112 items and no Hilda: I fail to see how I could make Hilda the target if she’s never shown in any of the lists!
@RockBottom I don‘t rember when i learned the following trick to import files if the share sheet doesn‘t list an app due too many apps in the share sheet:
In the files app copy the file you want to import into the app’s folder in ‚on-my-ipad’. Then drag the copied file into the lower right corner of the screen (ie still running files app) and a popup listing the app name appears in that corner. Now drop the file on that popup, the app will be launched and the file is imported. That drag-and-drop to corner of app folder“ action seems to use the same mechanism as ‚share with‘. After the import is finished, return to the files app and delete the file from the apps folder, as it was now duplicated into the internal app-storage.
Just tested that it still works with ipadOS 17 and Hilda. In the old days, this resulted in the fullscreen version of the app beeing launched for import - but on my current iPad Hilda was started in slide-over (didn‘t even know that Hila supports that)
Interesting ki. I have this problem with Tera Pro, but I just looked and there is no folder for that synth. Any idea what to do in that case?
Unfortunately, that method is also hit and miss for me. It seems like at some number of potential targets, whatever mechanism the OS has for determining targets becomes unreliable. On my up iPad, the OS makes Animoog Z the target for drag/drop of zips even if it isn't open and the desired target it. It drives me nuts.
Sorry, no.
And as @espiegel123 reported, that method doesn‘t always seem to work. (In my case Hilda is still in the share sheet, but i remember i used this method some years ago to import into an app that wasn’t shown in there).