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MIDI Guitar 3...

Will we see this app on our iDevices? ;)

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  • I want one of those breath controllers. I shopped and only found one for about $800. Is that it?

  • That looks, and sound, so promising. Fingers crossed it comes to iOS.

  • Wow, looks amazing! Must have.

  • I like MIDI Guitar 2 on iOS, so I only expect good things with this new version.

  • I’ll wait for the right ML model to recognize every polyphonic nuance and virtuosity (and distortion) you can do with your guitar. So just clean, reliable translation to MIDI MPE output.

  • edited March 2

    You mean Machine Learning ? How much of that is happening in the musician software world?

  • edited March 2

    @joegrant413 said:
    You mean Machine Learning ? How much of that is happening in the musician software world?

    Cmon, ;) I mean “machine learning." I still didn’t find reliable polyphonic guitar-to-MIDI software or devices. Maybe ML magic will be of great help. Maybe “MIDI Guitar 3” already hides some of this technology, who knows?

    Edit: oh, @joegrant413 edited post … ;)

  • @joegrant413 said:
    You mean Machine Learning ? How much of that is happening in the musician software world?

    It's monophonic and as far as I know just for desktop so far, but ddsp works pretty nicely and is free. You can play any monophonic instrument and turn it into whatever model is available (not many so far). But it picks up many nuances of your playing.

    https://magenta.tensorflow.org/ddsp-vst

    Here is a video by Andrew Huang:

    There's another very similar one, but the name slipped my mind.

  • Then there is Baby Audio's Taip and a couple of things by Tone Empire like the soul squash compressor, that is free right now:

    https://tone-empire.com/shop/soulsquash/

  • @Luxthor said:
    I’ll wait for the right ML model to recognize every polyphonic nuance and virtuosity (and distortion) you can do with your guitar. So just clean, reliable translation to MIDI MPE output.

    Well, this seem to be a huge step from version 2 which had it's moments but mostly .. not. I signed up for the desktop beta but I'm not sure I get accepted. The iOS version sounds like it will not be released with the desktop ditto but it will come. Anyway, I'm pretty excited😁

  • @Pxlhg said:

    @Luxthor said:
    I’ll wait for the right ML model to recognize every polyphonic nuance and virtuosity (and distortion) you can do with your guitar. So just clean, reliable translation to MIDI MPE output.

    Well, this seem to be a huge step from version 2 which had it's moments but mostly .. not. I signed up for the desktop beta but I'm not sure I get accepted. The iOS version sounds like it will not be released with the desktop ditto but it will come. Anyway, I'm pretty excited😁

    I still don’t know anything aside from a few promo videos, but I hope you get that beta invite and test $#!^ out of it. 😅

  • @tyslothrop1 said:

    @joegrant413 said:
    You mean Machine Learning ? How much of that is happening in the musician software world?

    ...
    Thanks! I'm almost tempted to learn Python ;)

  • would that be better than my old GR50?

  • @jo92346 said:
    would that be better than my old GR50?

    i doubt

  • edited March 3

    @McD said:
    I want one of those breath controllers. I shopped and only found one for about $800. Is that it?

    Tecontrol make some of the best breath controllers, and they start at $120 I believe…maybe $180 I can’t remember. They ship worldwide as far as I can tell. I got mine shipped to the USA for a reasonable price in a few weeks. It’s one of the best purchases I’ve made as a SWAM enthusiast. In fact, I think tecontrol is the one he's using in the video.

  • @Birdpie said:

    @jo92346 said:
    would that be better than my old GR50?

    i doubt

    J personally find that mg2 tracks as well or better than any Roland midi guitar I’ve used. A few people with fishman triple play have said that the fishman tracks better than MG2 but that the difference was less than they expected. I find mg2 pretty reliable and don’t expect 6-note polyphony.

    I gather it is a ymmv situation

  • Agreed, works better than any Roland device ever has for me.

  • Those polyphonic bends are mind blowing. Pure magic!

  • any news from the dev about release and ios compatibility?

  • iOS beta is coming after the desktop beta according to their website.

  • This is developing into a very versatile thingy ..

  • The Shredder at 9:00 is awesome :o

  • edited April 9

    Pretty cool to see and hear the TEControl breath controller in action, along with MIDI Guitar 2.

    I didn't realize it can detect head nod and tilt as well as bite and breath pressure. Oh and there was a time MIDI guitar tech required clean picking technique and was hit-and-miss with legato techniques - dude is heavily relying on hammer-ons there.

    Piano sustain is of particular interest to me in MIDI Guitar 3. I've tried to replicate it with various hardware pedals but they're mostly built around the technique of sampling a given number of milliseconds of guitar playing and playing back the sample as an infinitely repeating loop, which is quite different from how a damper or sostenuto pedal works with a real piano.

    Anyway, the sustain video (piano and other styles of sustain)

  • Huh, some cool features but not sure I need MG to be a full host/workstation. I trust they know their customer needs. I do dig the way they use the patching cables to hook up the routing options. Hope this comes to iOS soon enough!

  • Can’t wait. MG2 was close but still had a lot left to be desired

  • edited April 12

    Demo of the 4 MIDI streams of the TEControl.

    He says he prefers the You Rock controller for some applications. For example, when he wants to play a note that will sustain longer than the decay time of a guitar string. On his Fishman Triple Play guitar when the string dies out, the note is gone, regardless of what he's doing with the TEControl.

    Midi Guitar 3 is advertised to have multiple sustain options including infinite sustain, but LofiLeif's videos tend to emphasize sustain used for synth pads as opposed to the sustain of a wind instrument, in which the note is held as long as the player can keep breathing out air, or even better utilizing circular breathing technique.

  • edited April 13

    Midi Guitar 3 and Midi CELLO/VIOLIN!! (what?) is now open beta (mac desktop)

  • edited May 4

    I'm new to MG2/MG3 so I haven't dug into the modulators yet. But I'm having fun messing with MG. Works best with bridge humbuckers. Very sensitive to hammer-ons, which is great for breath controller use, as I only have to hammer-on a note and control most of the volume with breath.

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