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Bro, stop. Hard disagree
Some developers like AudioThing, Nembrini and more = excellent quality and UX plus universal (so iPhone is also supported). The price is good for one , no good for others - ok, but the quality is for sure 100% here.
I will try this in compare to dials in an hour, who know , maybe it will click with me. (BTW I’m not kind of man who bought anything just because of collection of apps from given developer. I really try to buy only what is inspiring me, and it’s not every one AudioThing app).
EDIT: ok this app sounds very good, but is very close in usage to Dials , right?
I listen a lot of KingTubby, but was never fan of his filters. I think right now I will pass this one, as nostalgia is no longer my director. Why I share this all here? Maybe somebody will talk with me about what I wrote. Thank you Gavinski for your video, great job!
EDIT2; I’m using now Dials, which is great when used, most of the time I’m using other filters, but found now the Dials is great to add color. So… probably DubFilter is also this kind of tool, but with different color.
Who knows, maybe I will found later that I cannot play/do great music without DubFilter and then will buy.
7.99€ general, not as intro.
its 1! hipass filter
no bro here, and no. no stop.
I'm no expert but I think a lot of work goes into the dsp for good emulations of analog gear like this, to be fair. Then, pretty sure that Audiothing also employs a separate graphic designer for these recent plugin UIs, etc etc.
I dunno, the days of ppl buying every plugin are over. People should be fussy what they buy and value stuff enough to actually use it instead of just collecting it, so maybe there is a silver lining to these generally higher prices we're seeing for iOS...
You're complaining about 10 damn bucks for a high-quality specific plugin that is very well done, not just "a highpass filter", but a faithful emulation of a very obscure and legendary piece of hardware, with very expanded controls etc.
The IR's alone cost 10 bucks to buy online, which is also fair - asking 10 bucks for sampling a piece of obscure hardware is completely justifiable.
So 10 bucks for a plugin that expands on that in a bunch of ways, simply cannot be called "overpriced".
Well the AudioThing apps are always very usable and definitely value for money. Like you say, they don’t seem to be insignificant in terms of work that goes in to them, so it’s not reasonable to expect them to be priced at rock-bottom prices.
just looking at the competitors gives me the answer its overpriced.
not even going into details.
but hey, its just my opinion.
no need to fight.
and it is "just" a hipass filter.
I want to provide you with some details regarding the development of this plugin.
It's not a generic stock high-pass filter you can find in any DSP library out there. We spent quite a lot of time on this plugin, it was rewritten from scratch to include the additional controls. I don't think there are many software clones of King Tubby's filter out there, the IRs will never fully capture the character of the filter, especially the behavior moving the cutoff.
The development alone cost a few thousand, this does not include the work I personally did, the beta testing, and all the marketing costs. Developing Dub Filter required the efforts of a DSP engineer, a graphic designer, and a recording engineer.
A $9.99 introductory price will not cover the development and marketing costs. Unfortunately, without the sales (and volume) from the desktop versions, there won't be iOS versions. This is a reality I really hope will change in the future.
Everything you do on iOS is greatly appreciated, and I’m sure the majority of people here recognize the capabilities of your apps and appreciate that they are very reasonably priced.
you can call every price you want, no need to explain yourself.
its your buisness and you do it fine, you wouldnt be in the game for so long if this would not be the case.
but as i said, no one can guess the filters i used in the end.
and the competitors are strong, so economy will give us all answers.
Thank you!
Well, since you mentioned it's just a high-pass filter, I felt compelled to explain that it's not just that.
True. However, the inability to hear which filter was used doesn't reduce the development costs; they remain the same regardless.
If by "economy" you mean a race to the bottom in pricing, frequent 90+% discount sales, or the shift towards subscription models, I'm a bit concerned. This trend could lead to a market dominated by poor-quality software in the long run. But that's just my opinion.
no, i just compare your great outaspace recreation for which i payed 22.99€ (and its worth every single cent)
with your hipass filter for 14.99€ in the end.
Thank you. I thought you said "competitors", either way, it makes sense to differentiate different kinds of products. On desktop it's the same.
Very good! Thank you for describing what goes on behind the curtain. Some people just don't realize the amazing value we have in the iOS sphere. Prices are still artificially low when compared with desktop counterparts.
Access to many low-priced apps seems to create some entitled attitudes among some people. And there will always be those creators who struggle to read social cues (and see the necessity in being kind.) The world of art has all types of people -- I'm still learning to be civil, myself.
Thank you, Carlo, for your extremely careful attention to detail toward sound design. You have many fans - not all are vocal.
Value for money is different then the value it has / could have for an individual. With that said I think the value for money is right, does it have value to me? I don’t know but was happily surprised since I got the VST version for free since I already owned Alborosie’s dub delay.
I wish I’d bought that when we still could, still have the demo installed, coulda woulda shudda…
There's no "fight", we're discussing and you're making wrongful assumptions.
Which "competitors"? Show me who else makes a recreation of the legendary King Tubby Big Knob Altec stepped filter with an authentic resonant sound, on iOS. I've been looking.
You have the freedom to buy it or skip it. Nobody is forcing you to buy it. Also why must you always don such an entitled attitude in most threads I find you posting in? If the price is too much for you, leave it be. Find some other app and plugin that suits you.
The sparkly bubbly layers of sounds DubFilter can create on top of pads with the right speed, impedance, character and artefacts dialed in come very nice, also useful if you're working with a limited amount of tracks.
“Just a high pass filter” is a capacitor and a resistor and a source. The DSP for this goes so far beyond that for such a one dimensional comment to be said about it.
If I have any spare cash after getting ASync tomorrow, I may also grab Dub Filter. Might be fun to create something using both at once in AUM. Haven't f--ked around with Ambient in a while, so I'm a bit overdue.
King Dougy's video demo:
I am guessing that once you have paid for all of that to make the desktop app it is not a lot more extra $$s to go on and create an iOS app.
I hope that is the case and you keep making iOS apps because your apps have a lot of fans on this Forum.
Thank you! It means a lot!
On desktop we decided to give it away for free to previous Dub Station users, so it's going to take more time than usual to recover costs. We don't like to discontinue products, but unfortunately, we had to end the agreement for that plugin, and offering Dub Filter for free felt like the right thing to do.
With the system we have in place now it's relatively easy for us to also release iOS and Linux versions. The challenge, however, lies in the support and maintenance required for additional formats and platforms, including updates, testing, platform-specific bug fixes, and optimization.
Anyway, we don't plan on stopping iOS development any time soon
@audiothing Thank you!!
May I ask why the agreement with Alborosie ended?
Unfortunately, as lawyers are involved, I cannot disclose any details. I can only say that the Dub Station was coming to iOS and Linux, and we had completed another product that involved significant financial and time investment from several people.
@audiothing
I suppose this means Dub Station won’t come to iOS (although you say it was completed). Very sad about this, because it was the one plugin I was really waiting for. No way to “rebrand” it like you have done for this dub filter and release it anyway? (Even if I don’t know how fair it would be…being an Alborosie estimator and not knowing the reasons for the agreement ending, I suppose it would be also correct not to arm him in any way)
I would also like to thank you for this very honest move. Unluckily, already owning Dub Station, it means I also already own this Dub filter. I suppose we must be happy anyway, since this new version is a little bit expanded.
But…I was guessing…since we already have the previous version on desktop…is there any chance we could have the iOS version instead? Or at least some kind of discount? It could be even better for you, since instead of giving away a 59$ plugin you would give a 10$ one. And it could be a way to show some desktop users the possibilities of iOS music making and leading them to be interested in your other iOS plugins, instead of giving them a duplicate of what they already have.
A no as an answer could be understandable, but don’t think it’s not possible because of how the AppStore works. Other developers can do it, so there is a way