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Anyways, regarding vocals. I'm not a great singer, and I have little to no money to hire a great singer. 😂 So urm, would vocoded vocals be passable in a Prog Rock song? I only ask, because I absolutely refuse to use autotune for the genre. (Seriously, autotune works for Pop and EDM, and sort of worked okay for that one Folk song I did a couple months ago, but I'd feel wrong using it for Prog Rock.)
Yes. Did you scroll to the right in the list of gadgets? For quite some time I thought only some gadgets were showing up. I could find them if I went to the search tab, but not otherwise. Then I finally learned to swipe left to show the other gadgets. 😂
Once you see them, it guides you through the process for any apps that don't have an iPhone version, for which you need to have an iPad with the apps installed running Gadget.
Is AI stooping too low?
Lol yes I tried that.
It doesn't go beyond that in the list. I reported it to Korg, and idek wtf to do. 😬
Hmmm, we shall see. I'm not snubbing the idea. 🤔 Might work. What app would you suggest mate?
Are you sure you have Module installed on your phone?
I'd leave them out, there are many examples of instrumental prog rock (e.g. Ozrics).
Hi @jwmmakerofmusic - it is really great to see you want to get into the Prog Rock scene (my favourite genre!).
The classic period of Prog was late 60s to mid-70s but it continued and evolved from then, with at least 2 waves of Neo-Prog bands and today the Progressive Rock scene is very much alive, albeit rather niche!
The genre has expanded to cover many different styles of music so it can be difficult to pigeonhole a track as Prog nowadays in the way it was in the 70s.
If you, or anyone else, is interested in how Prog Rock has evolved since its early days, I have been doing a monthly radio show/podcast called PROGalchemy for One World Music Radio. I have done 3 so far and the 4th will be available from next Friday. Here is a link to the first one:
https://www.mixcloud.com/OWM/progalchemy-1/
You mentioned not being great at vocals? Me neither but it hasn't stopped me from producing several Prog albums such as The Quest for The Holy Grail, Myth and Magick, and Terra Nova (all iPad based, with real guitar). https://amultitudeofone.bandcamp.com/music
Plus I have done many Prog albums with Doug Woods ( @thesoundtestroom ) - most of which are mainly iPad and guitar based (though Doug has used some Desktop apps in some albums). A good example of classic Prog Rock style that is iPad only is The Haunting of Sally Caster album, but the other albums in the Sally Caster series and albums such as The American Highway Suite (Darklands and Strange Days), Tales From the Edge of Yesterday are also Proggy! Here is a link to where you can find them: https://dougwoodsandcolinpowell.bandcamp.com
Examples of recent Prog Rock bands to check out are Karnataka, Mostly Autumn, Millennium, Mystery, Utopia, Regna, The Emerald Dawn, Riverside, Yuka and Chronoship but there are many, many others!
I seriously would not start here if you don't already know early Genesis.
Start with Foxtrot, then Selling England by the Pound, then The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.
Partial list, some redundancy…
First, start here: https://www.progarchives.com/
Hawkwind. Definitely listen to Quark, Strangeness, and Charm.
King Crimson. Especially the early albums, up through Red.
Ayreon. I happen to particularly love Into the Electric Castle.
IQ.
Van Der Graaf Generator. Like, all of it.
Utopia. That self-titled album is a masterwork.
Rush, obviously. Mostly early middle period.
Gentle Giant.
FM: Black Noise.
Nash the Slash. He’s one of the two founders of FM, and is weird and wonderful.
Be-Bop Deluxe.
Bill Nelson. After Be-Bop Deluxe he ventured into a long solo prog career.
Queensryche. Especially the first three albums.
Can.
The Art Bears. Weird, weird shit. Grating and addictive.
Trettioariga Kriget.
Opeth.
Devin Townsend. My god, that sound.
Camel. Only the Pete Bardens albums.
Spock’s Beard. They have two main periods, and both are great.
Renaissance. Heavily folk-flavored, but symphonic, bombastic, and rich.
Dimmu Borgir. Like Opeth they can out of the extreme/black metal scene, but if you can handle the growling their later albums in particular are huge.
Ozric Tentacles.
Pink Floyd. Hardly need to be mentioned, but essential, so.
Alan Parsons. He produced Dark Side of the Moon and went on to do his own stuff. Not brilliant, but beautifully done, and Tales of Mystery and Imagination is wonderful.
Kiss: Music From the Elder. It’s really a Bob Ezrin album, and holy heck.
Therion. Especially Lemuris/Siruis B.
Mastodon. The chuggest of chug.
Jan Hammer: Melodies.
Jean-Luc Ponty. He’s mostly known as a fusion artist like Hammer, but Imaginary Voyage in particular is perfect prog.
Porcupine Tree.
Marillion. Often dismissed as a Genesis knockoff, but the only Genesis album that matters to me is The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.
… and so on, and so on. It’s a wide open collection of interlocked genres, and I love all of it.
Seconded (or whatever) - I forgot them too, which is criminal, really. Hammill’s a genius.
If it's not too late I'll add IQ into the mix. Great mix of prog and gutsy guitar....
I do have Module Pro installed on my phone with all its IAPs. That one shows up just fine in the list. It's the gadgets like Pompeii and Darwin which need to be installed from an iPad which don't show up in the list.
I love instrumental Prog as well, but I have stories to tell through song mate. Those stories require vocals of some sort, lol.
That...is...absolutely epic! I'll be checking out your music throughout the day today. Especially your "A Multitude of One" albums to see what you did regarding vocals, as well as your works with our good friend Doug. I'll also check out the recent Prog Rock bands you mentioned. Thanks and cheers mate.
Nice! So much great music to listen to.
Thanks @qryss and @bygjohn and @enkaytee
Tons of great suggestions already.
You said you were listening to Scorpions. The guitar player’s brother is is UFO.
You were asking about vocoder in progressive rock. Yes it as been used. There is so many exemple.
Alan Parsons Project - The raven
ELO - MR blue sky
Cynic is a progressive death metal band. Their first album most of the vocals were thru a vocoder.
Probably a ring mod rather than a vocoder, but the vocals in King Crimson’s 21st Century Schizoid Man were heavily treated.
This is Rainbow. Dio is the singer and the guitar player is from Deep Purple. This is an epic.
Which one ?
Stratovarius is Neo classical rock
Do you mean which ring mod? I have no clue, but it’s also distorted with a strange EQ, so possibly also played through a guitar amp or something similar.
I read your comment wrong . Never mind 🙂
A few spacey things that I don’t think have been mentioned yet…
Cybotron (‘70s Australian band, not the ‘80s electro one):
Magma (French prog):
Klaus Schulze :
Thanks @jwmmakerofmusic - what I meant about not being brilliant with vocals was that I don't often have any vocals on my tracks, or those with Doug. That is the easiest way to deal with having a dodgy voice! You can find one track with me singing on the Myth and Magick album, though, (Searching for Something) and a few on my rock album, In Rock We Trust.
Somehow I had seen that movie as a little kid and then experienced recurring nightmares about it for most of my life until I finally asked people about it online. They confirmed it was a real movie which existed around the time period I described. And then I re-watched it online and that helped to surface and finally end my recurring nightmares. I know that sounds strange, but it's a true story. Absolutely not a movie for kids.
I skipped through the video and I remember it now. At the time I saw it I think I lost interest part way through, but I do remember thinking that it reminded me of Monty Python.
You won't believe this mate, but this happened to me too, except with "Eraserhead". I used to have nightmares about a "screaming monster baby" all the time.
Then in my 20s, I Googled "screaming monster baby movie", and when I saw the image of...whatever the fuck that thing was (in the movie it was a deformed baby), my heart sank into my gut and my jaw dropped. I found the source of my nightmares, watched the movie, and haven't had a nightmare about it since.