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Sandboxing means it doesn't happen. Only if you jailbreak, but that has its own issues.
Yeah I'm afraid to jailbreak.
@mkell424 it's basically impossible to brick an iPad by jailbreaking as you can always restore to its original state via iTunes. It's a common misconception that jailbreaking makes a device less stable and reliable. Jailbreaking merely opens up the device giving you the option of installing apps and tweaking your device in ways Apple doesn't allow. If you can follow instructions and if you research apps and tweaks before installation (I'd recommend the jailbreak subreddit) you have nothing to worry about...
Yeah thatsRayor hit the nail on the head. Jailbreaking an IOS device is a lot easier and safer than rooting an Android device. It just gives the user elevated privileges which allows you to access the file system like a regular computer. It makes it much easier to copy files between apps., back them up to a computer and/or Dropbox.
I paid $4.99 for iMaschine knowing pretty full well that it wasn't going to function in my "workflow". Maybe that was a bad decision, I dunno, though both the native samples and a few of the affordable IAP's were good enough that I grabbed them with iFunBox. Then again, there are SO many free samples available online that sample-grabbing alone probably doesn't justify the purchase.
If "iMaschine" didn't have "Maschine" in the title, it would be one of a long list of discarded apps that has great, but unfulfilled, promise due to missing features. The truth is there's just so many other great beatbox/sequencing apps that it's a waste of breath yelling at the stars about how Maschine needs an export feature.
For example, TriqTraq is $2.99, and after the recent update made it even better, I'm struggling to answer what I want to do with iMaschine that I can't already do with TriqTraq.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/triqtraq-jam-sequencer/id488578848?mt=8
Oh, and iMaschine's sample library takes up over 7 times as much storage space, and that's before you even add the free Quantum Collection and other add-ons.
For $1.99, sure, buy it! Just don't be mad at that it isn't really a "functional" iOS music generator because that's pretty well documented. It's meant as a complementary product to a piece of hardware that costs hundreds of dollars.
I hear you Mister Storm (loudly!), but as someone mentioned elsewhere, this product is indeed what it is and goes into the pile of 'maybe one day they'll add this or that thing' in this case exporting. All good.
I just bought it and is really good i only miss the audiocopy but i have ifunbox in my laptop so that will be ok
They've released a new Caribbean-something set for Maschine today, the iMaschine versions are usually released just s short while after. I have all 25+ IAPs expansions, each with around 5 kits, but can't really have too many drumkits, gotta collect'em all!
Seems ok for £1.49!?!?
@thatsRayor said:
Tell that to my poor IPhone 3GS, which got jailbroken by copying stuff off an Ipad 1. Accidentally pressed an update button recently now bricked. Luckily it's not like I was using it that much just as a kindle reader much more comfortable to hold for long periods of time than the newer ones (though I haven't held a 6 yet)
The drumkits are really good and is so easy to use it, and for that price is worth it even without audiocopy
Sorry to hear that @BiancaNeve. You do have to be careful not to let the device update its OS. There are tweaks available to prevent this however, and I believe this isn't a problem with the latest jailbreak for 7.1.2.
Oct 08 '14
$4.99 -> $1.99
To each their own i guess.@Dham said:
I'm really happy for you guys if everythings runnings as expected but just lemme say this:first,i'm not a fan of the apple sandbox thingy but i guess i profit fom the higher system stability and security,so not sure if its good or bad BUT i agreed the the terms of service when i bought an apple device,no matter if i like it or not.To each their own,yes,but NOT if that does mean that legit users (like me) have a disadvantage because of users with a jailbreak.Why?Simple example:i was quite active in the Auria forum in the first one/one and a half year and most of the problems occured,that nobody could explained,the last question was always:"using a jailbreak?"....uhm...well....yes....Came always up AFTER the developer spend hour over hour to try to fix the problem (and Rim from WML is EXACTLY a guy like this!)
So,Can you imagine why i'm not a fan of JB or even a fan of other people using a JB?Sucking up time,money and ressources that many,if not all developer,would love to put in bugfixing for legit users.There are SO many variables when using a JB that none of the developers has the manpower to really figure out whats going on if you are in trouble.And it's always the last info when shit blows up."oh,yeah.JB device.Sorry".Most people seem to hide this info to the bitter end but why?All of them are claiming,of course,running a JB JUST because of the more open file system and some other small tweaks.Not saying that anybody here is pirating,just saying:please don't affect MY usage in a negative way.Move over to android if you don't like what apple is offering (in this special case!).You can vote me down now if you like but this rant needed to come out.It got on my nerves for a while now,seeing many people ranting about the apple eccosystem (again:i agree with most of the complaints,mind you) and JB in the same moment.
Finally, I've found where the factory presets are:
iMaschine\iMaschine.app\iMaschineLibrary\Samples
Three main folders there: Drums, Instruments and One Shots
At first, I can't copy them to my PC, but finally I did it selecting the (IMPORTANT) Samples folder from the tree directory on the left and with mouse's secondary button "Copy to PC...". Trying the same from the right window didn't work (in my case).
Will try. Thanks for sharing the thought.
Edit: @fjcblanco This worked for me. Thanks very much.
@crabman, great post. I was almost thinking about jailbreaking my 4s again today because I'm playing a wedding tonight while the giants and eagles are playing and the place has no wifi, but I don't want to go there again. I'll just have to find the game on a replay somewhere (no dvr, too bad the government decided that aereo was illegal).
@mrufino1 Eagles by 10.
@johnnygoodyear Them's fightin words! I've been a giants fan since 1979.
@mrufino1 Me too. Since 1990 I guess when I first arrived in Manhattan from London, but you should know that already: Only a fan would set his expectations so low by imagining a thumping.
My favorite words in the American language are still: "Wide right!"
Nice. My ringtone for about 2 years was "Lawrence Tynes has kicked the giants to the Super Bowl!"
@mrufino1 said:
Thanks for backing it up but today i feel a little more like "sometimes silence is golden" because that was the second time in (almost) 2 years of using the AB Forum that i broke my own rule: don't drink and post
It's still definitely my opinion but a little less loudness while ranting is not the worst thing to keep the (mostly)peaceful athmosphere in this forum alive 
@Crabman said:
Everyone is entitled to their opinion as long as they express it in a respectful manner. I think it is a bit of a stretch to say that someone jailbreaking their device would negatively impact someone who chooses not to. By that logic one could claim that folks who refused to upgrade to IOS 7 negatively impacted others who did because developers had to continue to troubleshoot problems on IOS 5 or 6. Using the same logic one could claim that users who have not upgraded to IOS 8 are negatively impacting those who haven't because developers have to troubleshoot IOS 7 issues. It comes with the territory. It isn't too hard for a developer to obtain log files, system dumps, etc. from users who submit problem reports. They could easily determine if a device is jailbroken. They could also simply ask the user before spending time troubleshooting and refuse to support the device if they feel that the jailbreak is causing a problem with their app.
Now back to iMaschine. Since Native Instruments has refused to include Audiobus, Dropbox or even copy/paste in the 3 years since iMaschine was released it is unlikely that they ever will. They are essentially imposing artificial limitations on those who purchase their app. That is their prerogative, but it is mine to use whatever workaround is available.
@dham:imo your comparison (troubleshooting for older iOS) is flawed because of the simple fact that one is an official Apple OS while the other one is not ;-) And it doesn't seem THAT easy like"checking the logs and fix it".And why should the devs even bother to troubleshoot for not supported OS?It's not an iOS anymore...Comparable situation to a hackintosh PC maybe.Most of the devs are"one man shows"and therefore the"time,manpower,money"argument is not that far away.
@Crabman said:
I didn't say "checking the logs and fix it". I said they could obtain log files, system dumps, etc. and if they determine device is jailbroken they could refuse to spend time/resources troubleshooting it. We know the risks we take when we jailbreak our devices. But in many cases the increased productivity outweighs those risks which are largely exaggerated.
@Crabman said:
I do agree that Jailbreak users should not expect developers to troubleshoot their problems with their apps. They should provide that info. up front and even run the app. on a non-jailbroken device before raising a stink.
@Dham said:
But still,why should they even deliver support for a not supported OS?i don't want to sound like a broken record here,sorry
@Crabman said:
They shouldn't, I agree. If I have a problem with a critical app. I will uninstall the jailbreak and try it without it. Fortunately (knocking on wood) I haven't had to do that:)
Btw,Wasn't there something in iOS8 with a more open filesystem possible?I really hope it will see the light someday...apologize for the off topic,i'll stop it now