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evwrybidy is diffweent and everybody has different priorities and requirements.. it’s good that iOS apps landscape is so wide, everybody who is willing to make compromises will find something usable
If there would be no NS2, my immediate choice no.2 would be FL Studio Mobile .. place 3 would
be Zen Beats, but unfortunatelly that sample transient bug makes it unusable for me, so no third place :-))))
I agree 100%.
iOS apps are plentiful, so there's something for everyone.
FLSM is fantastic. And as for outside sounds, you can even create your own oneshots from various synths/romplers in AUM to utilise in DW Sampler. And it works great on an iPhone and barely drains battery life. (Even on my old SE 2, it barely drained the weak battery on that device.)
Oh it doesn't only affect EU citizens! For example, any indy (i.e. non-incorporated) US app developer has to publish their full home street address on the App Store if they want to sell their apps in the EU. "Consumer rights" and all 😉 (it might be possible to use a P.O. Box but I'm not sure on that yet.)
Oof, that's crazy, mate. Hopefully a P.O. Box will work for you.
Apple’s own guidelines seem to suggest a P.O. box is fine. (See under the sub-heading « Individuals »)
https://developer.apple.com/help/app-store-connect/manage-compliance-information/manage-european-union-digital-services-act-trader-requirements/
I’m not convinced there will be any meaningful App Store in the next couple of years. Was a decent run though
Yes, it's still kinda ridiculous. We're in 2024. Why would anyone want to send me information on PHYSICAL PAPER? A P.O. box costs EUR 30 per month in Ireland. That's more than 3 times as expensive as the Apple Developer Program! It's just an unneccesary cost caused by ridiculous burocrats.
We can’t really “know” what will or will not be supported in the future. A lot of apps are abandonned, some with big names behind them. Some aren’t actively being developed. I think Matt deserves the benefit of the doubt when it comes to “stability updates”.
There has not been a problem to date with NS2 and you have no reason to suggest NS2 won’t get “stability updates”. Once such assertions go unchallenged, they start to become accepted as accurate. Then someone new to iOS that is thinking about getting NS2 reads your posts, and those of others, and thinks to him or herself “People don’t buy NS2 because it is unstable.” Then you are negatively affecting sales of NS2 and Matt has less and less reasons to bother with “stability updates” and you’ve contributed to a self-fufilling prophecy. You and others on this forum have the right to freedom of speech, but inaccurate speech can be harmful and I think we in the iOS music production scene should be fair to the devs. That’s all I’m sayin’. If you want to doible down and stick with your assertion then go ahead, but I think Matt has delivered two stellar apps to this community and we should treat him and his app with respect. I call bullshit on such disparaging of NS2 (nor any honest app) and if the mods want to ban me for using a bad word, then “Oh well.”
NS2 was the least stable app I ever used on my iPad Air 2. Worked fine on iPhone and iPad Air 4, but it was totally unusable on the air 2.
Okay, that's a fair opinion. But...
Don't tell me what to say. You're not my boss! I explained that I'm neurodivergent and that not knowing the future of NS2 works on my anxiety and stifles my creativity FOR ME PERSONALLY, and you simply brush it off and couldn't care less. What's your reasoning for defending NS2? What's your reasoning for your tribalist viewpoint, as if I insulted your precious mother or something?
That's ridiculous. It's only one person's personal experience and opinion, not universal fact, not assertion, nor anything else! A lot of people said BM3 was bad and unstable (myself included), but has that stopped people from using and loving BM3? No?
And a lot of people said Gadget would never get any new updates (despite the fact it had been getting steady maintenance updates over the years), but did that stop people from using Gadget (myself included)? No? Okay then! It's just one person's opinion which you clearly disagree with. It's not going to stop you nor anyone else from wanting to use NS2, and my words aren't stopping you.
That is the most inane bullshit I've ever heard on this forum! I've contibuted no such thing to no such "self-fulfilling prophecy". Again, who are you defending, your "saintly mother who can do no wrong"?
So all of a sudden it's the "inaccurate speech" strawman argument, innit? But you're obviously not being fair to me and refuse to understand my mindset. You're the one acting purposefully ignorant and tribalist.
I'm not disrespecting him nor his app. I'm simply stating my own personal mindset. What, should I have to put the "your mileage may vary" and "for me personally" disclaimers on every post I make?
It's not "bullshit". It's not even "disparaging". It's called "having a different mindset than yours". It doesn't require you to condescendingly mansplain anything to anyone in the aggressive way you've been defending NS2. But, hey, you want the "disparaging" facts about your precious app? I'll give it to ya, pal.....
Not everyone has to like NS2! For instance it has no audio tracks. I can automate the parameters of internal effects, Obsidian, Slate, and the parameters of external AUv3 synths, but I can't automate the parameters of external AUv3 effects? Also, as of this typing, NS2 hasn't been updated in over 2 years.
The developer barely ever interacts with anyone on his own forum, and the emperor has no clothes! Not assertions there, but cold hard evidence.
Okay, now that I got the "disparaging" out of the way, I will say that NS2 had been one of my favourite apps to use over the years, and I've often vouched for it passionately. Where were you then? I'm the one who talked with Matt via email and delivered the official news that NS2 would be given continual maintenance updates. Where were you then? Or how Matt told me he is doing fine with his career and supporting his family? Where were you then? Or did you just decide to conveniently forget all of that?
But the longer NS2 goes without any sort of update, the more nervous I become making that my main creative environment, and the more nervous I become making that my main creative environment, the more I don't wish to use that app. It's that simple. I don't need you coming over here with your condescending attitude problem simply because I had a few criticisms about your favourite app. Thank you, and good day!
Bedtime kids!
Yep, agreed lol. Time to put the nonsense to bed. I could've been nicer, but man that stuff gets on my nerves.
it’s all my fault, i forgot it’s not allowed to mentions NS in any thread here, ir always ends badly 😂 Will not repeat same mistake in future 🤣😂
Guus, nothing matters, until nukes are not raining on our heads just enjoy every day and do not take anything too seriously, only valuable thing in our life is time.
This I agree with 💯 And it's all good Dendy. 😂 Good to hear from you mate.
I wasn’t and still am not angry. I re-read my post and don’t see it as angry. I politely ask you to re-read it again and see if you can read it with a different tone. I will ignore the petty comments in your post since we have been on friendly terms in the past. You are welcome to your opinions on any app and I can also say that I disagree with your opinion. Don’t get angry because someone disagrees with you. That’s just a suggestion mate. I’m not “telling you” what to say or think. Nor am I telling you how to future proof your work. You have used NS2 A LOT in the past and nothing has changed with the app. Only your perception has changed.
You assert it isn’t stable because it won’t get stability updates in the future. I disagree. That’s all that is going on here. I would have said the same for Gadget. It weren’t broke before they “fixed it.” How long before you assert Gadget isn’t getting any more stability updates? Before it got recent updates it did the same thing did upon release. It may take years before Korg gets around to updating Gadget again, or maybe they do so next week. If you think it is OK to say an app is somehow unreliable because no one has needed to fix it, that seems like the least reasonable criticism I can imagine. Do you (anyone else?) think this forum should be a place where I can’t disagree with an assertion like that…? I dunno. Who’s really wearing the emperor’s clothes? Who is pointing out there are no clothes? (That’s as far as I can run with that bit. Maybe I’ll think of something more funny after I have had coffee.)
You are normally quite logical in your posts, and I am asking you to take a step back, calm down a minute, think if your post about lack of “stability updates” for NS2 were fair, and defend your position if you do. No need to flame me. You could just have easily posted that you didn’t mean to assert NS2 is unstable or won’t get updates but that you just are concerned about future proofing your work. That’s fine. I don’t think we need to get angry with each other.
I think it is BS and unfair to assert NS2 is unstable and won’t be updated. Same for Gadget. I stated that NS2 has been stable for 6 years and there is no reason to think iOS issues wouldn’t get a fix. Do you have an evidence to the contrary? You seem to be making my point tnat NS2 was updated 2 years ago.
I remember @klownshed issues with the app. Some of the flukuest ever issues. But it wasn’t related to an iOS update making anything unstable. “Stability Updates” are the point I am discussing. As well as the more general point that unfair criticisms of apps or their devs are not good for this forum or the iOS music app scene. That’s not an attack against free speech, it’s challenging a point. You decide how you want to procede. Getting angry won’t be productive (just my opinion). I’m hoping you post further and we can discuss this calmly. I didn’t mean to offend you and apologize if I did. I didn’t attack you, I’m just challenging your point.
Yeah and we're still on friendly terms. I'm just in a stressful period of my life right now and I didn't mean to get hostile. It was also 4am when I woke up and was cantankerous.
Anyways, I'm just going to ignore the rest of the babble and move on with my day. Arguing online is rather pointless.
I think we both agree on that. I hope the rest of your day is a good one, and I also hope you continue making great music with whatever app you prefer. 👍🏻
Thanks mate.
Much appreciated. I hope the rest of your day is also tops. And I hope to hear more excellent music from you in the future as well, regardless of app(s) used.
Yep, I admit I am stuck in a writer's block at the moment and my creativity has shifted to art, but everything happens in its own time.
Is Slam_Cut an alias to Matt Borstel?
I just wonder…
No
Actually, I'm an alias to Warren Buffet. It's just not reflected in my bank account balance 😢
😂🤣
The normal price for unlocking all features on iOS is $14.99
We just ended a $75 (50% off) Max Unlock promo. The Max Unlock includes licenses for iOS, WIndows, MacOS and Android as well as all add-on loop and preset packs in the store.
I'd recommend just trying the free version and then start with the iOS unlock at $14.99 if you like it.