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I suppose my question is, once you find something you like in standalone mode, what then? Or are you just happy enjoying it even without recording it?
I suppose an argument could be made for that in terms of presets, so you can find something you like in standalone and then take it to AUM, although then again if its already hard to justify keeping more work wouldn't help with that lol.
I am genuinely interested hearing about this though, as I say if its useful to people I don't want to get rid of it
(Oh and keep screen on, will definitely look into that, I must admit I thought that was already the case, but just gave it a test and after a while indeed you are right)
Yes! Dr-OM was a major inspiration, loved that little synth. It's still possible to get it working, iirc it's something about flipping between landscape and portrait or visa versa.
Cheers! I think next (once I've got the key things finished with Nonatone, mostly AU parameters) I'm gonna try a midi-output app, like this one simple on the frontend but with a bit of interesting complexity on the backend
Absolutely. Because my enjoyment of the app is not in isolation. It's in tandem with other experiences, playing guitar, relaxation etc. I love sound, for it's own sake. I record music, but I also play just for the enjoyment, and that can come from almost anything that I perceive as musical or aurally interesting.
Alright so, as the feature request list grows bigger, I think it's time to start prioritising. I'm sure you can understand I can't afford to do this full time (much as I'd like to), though to be fair I think its focus on simplicity means it doesn't need to be constantly updating anyway, but there are a few things I would like to at least try before calling it done:
And then if they're simple enough to do
I didn't anticipate people would use it that way but that makes sense, yeh I'll try to keep the standalone app included then
Exactly that! :-) Sometimes you want to make music, but sometime you just want to enjoy messing around with sound for it’s own sake.
A gentleman's statement, good enough to close this absurde 'discussion'
The User Interface of this app is deceptively brilliant in an AUv3 package.
The ability to make minute adjustments in pitch is great.
Much better than those little fiddly controls in Drambo when used as an AUv3.
👍
Making progress on those AU parameters (aka got the bare minimum done of getting a test parameter visible), actually came up with another pretty cool app idea in the process but we can deal with that later
Is it a decent UI half screen app ?
And with AU parameters.
What does it mean in regards to the synth being a screen tweakable synth ?
Thanks.
@wim I was thinking the exact same thing about DR – OM. I even went to fire it up again, and I stand by the comparison. But it does work for me, the only thing which seems slightly broken is the fact that you have to open it in portrait view before you shift to landscape.
I like this new app, but I have to say I did discover to my mild disappointment that I already had something that sounds much like it.
I think this one is enough different from Dr-OHM that personally I wouldn't feel that way. Plus it's much, much more convenient. I'd only be reaching for Dr-OHM for the special uniqueness of it.
Also, Dr-OHM is eventually gonna die. Some OS update is going to kill it. That is virtually guaranteed.
Good points.
Because I own those older apps already, this one just wouldn't have been top of my purchase list only because it doesn't tread entirely new ground for me. Like many, I'm kind of trying to do less buying of 5-10 dollar apps unless they break some new ground for me.
For people who don't own those older apps, or who do but hate IAA, It's a fun five dollar synth, with a very focused application. And it sounds cool.
(Convenience for me is not a creativity booster, and far as I can tell, the main conveniences auv3 offers might save someone two minutes a day in set up time, so it just doesn't really figure into my calculation at all. And the lifespan of an app is almost never a concern to me, and not even predictable. I bought an app a year ago from popular developer here and it doesn't work reliably at all, and it doesn't appear that he's going to do anything about it. and I have 15-year-old apps that have never failed. I prioritize that over the convenience thing but everybody is different and my digression here is getting too long.)
Hey everyone, a bit of an update
So the bad news is that AU Parameters are looking less likely. Not saying it won't happen, I'm gonna give it another try, but it's starting to look like I'd need to rebuild massive portions of the code to get them to work. Would really like to get them in, just wanted to put the warning out there just in case.
On some good news though, I've managed to get compatibility down to iOS 14, which is really nice, and the screen no longer goes to sleep on the standalone app
In the end I did manage to get it working!
Just getting it ready for release now, shouldn't be too much longer
Oh, that’s fantastic! Congratulations and thank you!
Great news - thanks!
Off to review now, I can finally sleep lol
Right on!
Update is live in the UK...👍
https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/nonatone/id6502920821
Posted the new thread here
Cheers everyone!
it looks like a nice app, but why not run 9 VCO’s in MiRack or Drambo? In these modular system apps you have the modulation and audio effects options right at hand.
That sounds logical, but just try recreating this with miRack. (I couldn't resist myself, ha ha. 😂)
It isn't as easy as you might think to implement the controls. Sure if you want to twiddle individual knobs on 9 VCO's and filters, but adding something like Tact 1 to control all that each of the controls in this app gets complicated when it involves volume, frequency, and filter. Same for Drambo, though a bit easier.
For the price, and the elegance of controls, I wouldn't hesitate a second to buy the app rather than kludge it together and get it tuned for similar results.
You certainly can, however there's more to an app than just raw features. Imagine if instead of 9 oscillators, there were 9000. A lot more powerful no doubt, but imagine how tiny the controls would be, and therefore how difficult it'd be to tweak each one. It's not just ease of controls either (at least for me), I think there's a lot of value in keeping things simple. Almost like applying the Unix philosophy to synthesizers. Again, if you're just comparing feature lists, Nonatone will never win, but I think there's more to an app than that.
Nonatone is about just keeping things simple, that won't be for everyone but for those who want that I think it's been well received.
Edit: Apologies if that didn't make much sense, it's boiling over here and my brains a bit foggy lol. Wim and bygjohn have been able to explain it much better
☝️ This. It’s the playability that makes this app special, particularly if you have it zoomed up large on screen. It’s great fun, particularly put through a big reverb, or something like Rymdigare. It’s one of those things that looks simple (and it is, in fact) but the controls take it somewhere unique (well, in my experience, which may well be limited). Costs next to nothing, hours of fun!
Its easy to forget in the tsunami of (increasingly expensive) new apps coming out (and no, I’m not complaining about the prices, devs have to eat) that tons of enjoyment can be had from some of our cheapest or free apps. KQ Unotone is another gem, even at its new higher price.
Didn’t realise I had Dr-OM, it is awesome.
@tspring update working great 👍 thank you 🙏!!!
Cool app. Probably wouldn’t have bought it if it wasn’t for this discussion that stoked the fires. Doug did a great job in his video too.
I agree. It is a good app for doing drones.