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LMAO nice apple, release M4 oled ipad and what's your frontpage update for iPadOS? CALCULATOR APP


hahaha I hate them for not allowing us to have a pro OS

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  • When did they introduce the calculator app? It was missing from the iPad forever.

  • If I had this app when I was a kid I might’ve paid more attention to math in school. It’s a brilliant problem solving tool, not just a calculator.

  • @Mountain_Hamlet said:
    When did they introduce the calculator app? It was missing from the iPad forever.

    Announced today for iPadOS 18.

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    @Tarekith said:

    @Mountain_Hamlet said:
    When did they introduce the calculator app? It was missing from the iPad forever.

    Announced today for iPadOS 18.

    Cool. Might actually be a good reason to upgrade to iPadOS 18. I don’t understand why it hadn’t been introduced earlier though.

  • @SUPEREUROBEAT said:

    hahaha I hate them for not allowing us to have a pro OS

    Yeah, I hear you. We just happen to use this overpriced calculator hardware for music production… 😅

  • @Mountain_Hamlet said:

    @Tarekith said:

    @Mountain_Hamlet said:
    When did they introduce the calculator app? It was missing from the iPad forever.

    Announced today for iPadOS 18.

    Cool. Might actually be a good reason to upgrade to iPadOS 18. I don’t understand why it hadn’t been introduced earlier though.

    I have had a similar ”calculator” installed for years, PhotoMath - but, now have Google bought this great app and converted it to subscription app (there’s a free one, but can’t see what’s the limitation are)…

  • edited June 11

    I really have to defend the new Calculator from Apple!

    Bringing some time with it this morging (Europe), and, holy shit, this is great!

    Also, the option to use same technology into both Notes app and Pages/Keynote app is really generous…

  • Look, sometimes you just want to do maths on a big screen and handwrite stuff with little pictures like you're 7 years old.

  • edited June 11

    @Michael_R_Grant said:
    Look, sometimes you just want to do maths on a big screen and handwrite stuff with little pictures like you're 7 years old.

    The new calculator app to iPad is designed for us boys & girls educated with just that, pen & paper, although I bought my first LCD calculator already 1975 (50 bucks then)…

    It may seems to be a little gimmicky, but Apples intentions is good, really good…

  • @HolyMoses said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:
    Look, sometimes you just want to do maths on a big screen and handwrite stuff with little pictures like you're 7 years old.

    The new calculator app to iPad is designed for us boys & girls educated with just that, pen & paper, although I bought my first LCD calculator already 1975 (50 bucks then)…

    It may seems to be a little gimmicky, but Apples intentions is good, really good…

    Probably not as gimmicky as you think when you consider how broadly iPads are used in schools. My daughter was given one at elementary school, and has used her own for various school projects since then.

  • edited June 11

    One little known hack before this groundbreaking calculator app dropped, was to use the iPad screen as a flat surface, place a sheet of paper over it, and with the help of a pencil (regular pencil would do, no need for apple’s pencil), perform the calculation by hand.
    Why apple like this? Answer is always the same: money.
    I am relieved my iphone14 won’t benefit from all the AI crap apple’s about to drop on newer modules. If the “improvements” in text assistance of recent years are any indicator of what’s to come then please opt me out

  • @pedro said:
    One little known hack before this groundbreaking calculator app dropped, was to use the iPad screen as a flat surface, place a sheet of paper over it, and with the help of a pencil (regular pencil would do, no need for apple’s pencil), perform the calculation by hand.
    Why apple like this? Answer is always the same: money.
    I am relieved my iphone14 won’t benefit from all the AI crap apple’s about to drop on newer modules. If the “improvements” in text assistance of recent years are any indicator of what’s to come then please opt me out

    I understand that your first sentence was irony, or?

    But, what has this "paper on the screen" thing to do with Apples take on the new calculator app?
    Have you seen the Keynote from yesterday?

    I have already iPadOS 18 beta 1 on one of my iPad Pros (M1), and, even if I was disappointed yesterday, today I'm more, much more satisfied!

    I really like the new Photos app with more advanced indexation and advanced search - I have 30000+ pictures there, so it nice to really be able to search for "red cars with women on top"...

  • @pedro said:
    One little known hack before this groundbreaking calculator app dropped, was to use the iPad screen as a flat surface, place a sheet of paper over it, and with the help of a pencil (regular pencil would do, no need for apple’s pencil), perform the calculation by hand.
    Why apple like this? Answer is always the same: money.
    I am relieved my iphone14 won’t benefit from all the AI crap apple’s about to drop on newer modules. If the “improvements” in text assistance of recent years are any indicator of what’s to come then please opt me out

    Check it out. It’s pretty cool.

    https://x.com/rowancheung/status/1800268708230599088?s=46&t=OKrlFzpWNIr-ahE1jG1-bw

  • It's equal parts gimmicky and late... there was no particular reason not to have had a decent calculator app since a long time (even handwriting recoginition has been around a while) - this should have been "calculator app version 6.0" or something.

    On the other side selling a device called "Pro" as that's as powerful as a laptop that's still missing the basic features - even super simple things like setting "open this file type in this app by default" - while promoting a calculator app as the headline feature is a bit absurd.

    I still like the iPad for what I do with it, but this is where you feel the squeeze of the closed ecosystem. In the past when Macs missed features devs could step in and offer them (and sometimes get eaten by apple later, like Alfred command pane or tabbed browsing for Finder). iPads are locked up so tight that's not an option.

  • @mangecoeur said:
    It's equal parts gimmicky and late... there was no particular reason not to have had a decent calculator app since a long time (even handwriting recoginition has been around a while) - this should have been "calculator app version 6.0" or something.

    On the other side selling a device called "Pro" as that's as powerful as a laptop that's still missing the basic features - even super simple things like setting "open this file type in this app by default" - while promoting a calculator app as the headline feature is a bit absurd.

    I still like the iPad for what I do with it, but this is where you feel the squeeze of the closed ecosystem. In the past when Macs missed features devs could step in and offer them (and sometimes get eaten by apple later, like Alfred command pane or tabbed browsing for Finder). iPads are locked up so tight that's not an option.

    If one prefers the “open” environment of Android, they should try it out for a while, then come back to Apple with tail between legs shortly thereafter. Apple stuff just works better. And if one dislikes the particular limitations of iPadOS, there’s always the Mac lineup.

  • I just assumed this was a companion app for FuncBud

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  • I'll be interested to see how the "Apple Intelligence" features run on my M1 iPad. A lot of the commentary around the new M4 iPad has been to the effect of "sure, it's great, but the software doesn't do anything new with all this power", and I suppose this technology will make a dent in that perception (i.e. it will be computationally expensive). On this forum I think we all might have preferred if they'd used that power to break down artificial constraints in the OS, but instead they're spending it on generative AI emojis. AAPL shareholders probably would have sued them if they'd done any differently :lol:

  • @mjm1138 said:
    I'll be interested to see how the "Apple Intelligence" features run on my M1 iPad. A lot of the commentary around the new M4 iPad has been to the effect of "sure, it's great, but the software doesn't do anything new with all this power", and I suppose this technology will make a dent in that perception (i.e. it will be computationally expensive). On this forum I think we all might have preferred if they'd used that power to break down artificial constraints in the OS, but instead they're spending it on generative AI emojis. AAPL shareholders probably would have sued them if they'd done any differently :lol:

    Apple's A.I. integration features seem rushed, unpolished and to make matters worse have been negatively impacted by Apple's Tim Cook-led penchant for monetization via planned/forced obsolescence. Apple has already been sued in the recent past for such practices. The hardware is great and there is no way I would switch to Android, but I will very happy when Cook is no longer at the helm. They could easily continue to rake in record profits without resorting to such disgusting tactics. https://9to5mac.com/2021/03/01/apple-lawsuit-portugal-planned-obsolescence/

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  • @tja said:

    @HolyMoses said:

    @pedro said:
    One little known hack before this groundbreaking calculator app dropped, was to use the iPad screen as a flat surface, place a sheet of paper over it, and with the help of a pencil (regular pencil would do, no need for apple’s pencil), perform the calculation by hand.
    Why apple like this? Answer is always the same: money.
    I am relieved my iphone14 won’t benefit from all the AI crap apple’s about to drop on newer modules. If the “improvements” in text assistance of recent years are any indicator of what’s to come then please opt me out

    I understand that your first sentence was irony, or?

    But, what has this "paper on the screen" thing to do with Apples take on the new calculator app?
    Have you seen the Keynote from yesterday?

    I have already iPadOS 18 beta 1 on one of my iPad Pros (M1), and, even if I was disappointed yesterday, today I'm more, much more satisfied!

    I really like the new Photos app with more advanced indexation and advanced search - I have 30000+ pictures there, so it nice to really be able to search for "red cars with women on top"...

    Horrifying 😳

    Hopefully, this can be disabled.

    I really don't want Apple to scan anything, for whatever reason.

    Dear Tja, you sounds like Julien Assange or Edward Snowden 😀😀

    In this technical developed world anything around my persona is certainly known by the authorities and all sorts companies - so, no big deal for me to let Apple index my photos…

    If we wish to be the opposite, then we have to sell our phones tablets smart-TVs computers, cut the cord to internet and disable our home alarms…

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  • edited June 11

    @Dham said:

    @mjm1138 said:
    I'll be interested to see how the "Apple Intelligence" features run on my M1 iPad. A lot of the commentary around the new M4 iPad has been to the effect of "sure, it's great, but the software doesn't do anything new with all this power", and I suppose this technology will make a dent in that perception (i.e. it will be computationally expensive). On this forum I think we all might have preferred if they'd used that power to break down artificial constraints in the OS, but instead they're spending it on generative AI emojis. AAPL shareholders probably would have sued them if they'd done any differently :lol:

    Apple's A.I. integration features seem rushed, unpolished and to make matters worse have been negatively impacted by Apple's Tim Cook-led penchant for monetization via planned/forced obsolescence. Apple has already been sued in the recent past for such practices. The hardware is great and there is no way I would switch to Android, but I will very happy when Cook is no longer at the helm. They could easily continue to rake in record profits without resorting to such disgusting tactics. https://9to5mac.com/2021/03/01/apple-lawsuit-portugal-planned-obsolescence/

    The problem, which afflicts the entire economy, is that for Wall Street, record profits are no longer sufficient. Shareholders demand continual growth, even if you're one of the largest companies in the world (by market cap). And Apple can no longer squeeze that growth out of the sale of new hardware or software (even through the use of "planned obsolescence" tactics, which is not a theory I personally subscribe to anyway).

    The fertile ground for growth at Apple, then, is "services", which includes app stores, subscription services, etc. Also known as "recurring revenue". Almost every software vendor in the world has been on a mission to transition their customers into sources of recurring revenue. Perpetually licensed software is going to become more and more rare, until or unless the "infinite growth" mindset breaks on Wall St. (don't hold your breath).

    So, Tim Cook may leave, and I'd guess he will retire in the next couple years, but I don't see much chance that a new CEO would change course significantly. By the measure of increasing company and brand value, Tim Cook has been one of the most wildly successful CEOs in the history of business. People will never treat him with the reverence they treat Steve Jobs, but if you're a long-term holder of AAPL, Tim Cook did a lot more for you than Steve Jobs ever did.

    ETA: by the way, I'm describing what I see as the state of the world, not endorsing it.

  • edited June 11

    @HolyMoses said:

    @tja said:

    @HolyMoses said:

    @pedro said:
    One little known hack before this groundbreaking calculator app dropped, was to use the iPad screen as a flat surface, place a sheet of paper over it, and with the help of a pencil (regular pencil would do, no need for apple’s pencil), perform the calculation by hand.
    Why apple like this? Answer is always the same: money.
    I am relieved my iphone14 won’t benefit from all the AI crap apple’s about to drop on newer modules. If the “improvements” in text assistance of recent years are any indicator of what’s to come then please opt me out

    I understand that your first sentence was irony, or?

    But, what has this "paper on the screen" thing to do with Apples take on the new calculator app?
    Have you seen the Keynote from yesterday?

    I have already iPadOS 18 beta 1 on one of my iPad Pros (M1), and, even if I was disappointed yesterday, today I'm more, much more satisfied!

    I really like the new Photos app with more advanced indexation and advanced search - I have 30000+ pictures there, so it nice to really be able to search for "red cars with women on top"...

    Horrifying 😳

    Hopefully, this can be disabled.

    I really don't want Apple to scan anything, for whatever reason.

    Dear Tja, you sounds like Julien Assange or Edward Snowden 😀😀

    In this technical developed world anything around my persona is certainly known by the authorities and all sorts companies - so, no big deal for me to let Apple index my photos…

    If we wish to be the opposite, then we have to sell our phones tablets smart-TVs computers, cut the cord to internet and disable our home alarms…

    You should think more proactive. Yes maybe they do know many things about you, but that doesn't mean you should stop fighting companies invading your privacy, and not just accepting their lousy choices and allowing them to take control. At the end of the day you are the one buying their product and you should have all the power 😉.

  • @NeuM said:
    If one prefers the “open” environment of Android, they should try it out for a while, then come back to Apple with tail between legs shortly thereafter. Apple stuff just works better. And if one dislikes the particular limitations of iPadOS, there’s always the Mac lineup.

    I do like apple stuff and I’ve used a bit of everything starting from DOS, I was even one of like 8 people who had a windows-based nokia smartphone 😂 But that doesn’t mean we have to accept what apple do uncritically just because someone else does it worse. The point with the ipad pro is there is now no technical reason for any limitations, gone are the days when it was limited by weak mobile processors.

  • @Dham said:

    @mjm1138 said:
    I'll be interested to see how the "Apple Intelligence" features run on my M1 iPad. A lot of the commentary around the new M4 iPad has been to the effect of "sure, it's great, but the software doesn't do anything new with all this power", and I suppose this technology will make a dent in that perception (i.e. it will be computationally expensive). On this forum I think we all might have preferred if they'd used that power to break down artificial constraints in the OS, but instead they're spending it on generative AI emojis. AAPL shareholders probably would have sued them if they'd done any differently :lol:

    Apple's A.I. integration features seem rushed, unpolished and to make matters worse have been negatively impacted by Apple's Tim Cook-led penchant for monetization via planned/forced obsolescence. Apple has already been sued in the recent past for such practices. The hardware is great and there is no way I would switch to Android, but I will very happy when Cook is no longer at the helm. They could easily continue to rake in record profits without resorting to such disgusting tactics. https://9to5mac.com/2021/03/01/apple-lawsuit-portugal-planned-obsolescence/

    Huh? Imo the AI integrations looks useful there where people need it. Better than the craze on other platforms where it dictates your workflow or where you have to buy special hardware. Apple has been shipping capable hardware for a while and has a much bigger install base day one.

  • Oooo, now I can finally add 2+2= For profit

  • @Dham said:

    @mjm1138 said:
    I'll be interested to see how the "Apple Intelligence" features run on my M1 iPad. A lot of the commentary around the new M4 iPad has been to the effect of "sure, it's great, but the software doesn't do anything new with all this power", and I suppose this technology will make a dent in that perception (i.e. it will be computationally expensive). On this forum I think we all might have preferred if they'd used that power to break down artificial constraints in the OS, but instead they're spending it on generative AI emojis. AAPL shareholders probably would have sued them if they'd done any differently :lol:

    Apple's A.I. integration features seem rushed, unpolished and to make matters worse have been negatively impacted by Apple's Tim Cook-led penchant for monetization via planned/forced obsolescence. Apple has already been sued in the recent past for such practices. The hardware is great and there is no way I would switch to Android, but I will very happy when Cook is no longer at the helm. They could easily continue to rake in record profits without resorting to such disgusting tactics. https://9to5mac.com/2021/03/01/apple-lawsuit-portugal-planned-obsolescence/

    In what way do they seem rushed or unpolished? I watched the same presentation as everyone else and I was very impressed with the systemwide integration of their "A.I.".

  • edited June 11

    @NoiseHorse said:
    Oooo, now I can finally add 2+2= For profit

    Did everyone here actually watch the demos? The "calculator" is an A.I.-assisted math problem solver. It's not as simple as one might think. Watch the video.

  • @mjm1138 said:

    @Dham said:

    @mjm1138 said:
    I'll be interested to see how the "Apple Intelligence" features run on my M1 iPad. A lot of the commentary around the new M4 iPad has been to the effect of "sure, it's great, but the software doesn't do anything new with all this power", and I suppose this technology will make a dent in that perception (i.e. it will be computationally expensive). On this forum I think we all might have preferred if they'd used that power to break down artificial constraints in the OS, but instead they're spending it on generative AI emojis. AAPL shareholders probably would have sued them if they'd done any differently :lol:

    Apple's A.I. integration features seem rushed, unpolished and to make matters worse have been negatively impacted by Apple's Tim Cook-led penchant for monetization via planned/forced obsolescence. Apple has already been sued in the recent past for such practices. The hardware is great and there is no way I would switch to Android, but I will very happy when Cook is no longer at the helm. They could easily continue to rake in record profits without resorting to such disgusting tactics. https://9to5mac.com/2021/03/01/apple-lawsuit-portugal-planned-obsolescence/

    The problem, which afflicts the entire economy, is that for Wall Street, record profits are no longer sufficient. Shareholders demand continual growth, even if you're one of the largest companies in the world (by market cap). And Apple can no longer squeeze that growth out of the sale of new hardware or software (even through the use of "planned obsolescence" tactics, which is not a theory I personally subscribe to anyway).

    The fertile ground for growth at Apple, then, is "services", which includes app stores, subscription services, etc. Also known as "recurring revenue". Almost every software vendor in the world has been on a mission to transition their customers into sources of recurring revenue. Perpetually licensed software is going to become more and more rare, until or unless the "infinite growth" mindset breaks on Wall St. (don't hold your breath).

    So, Tim Cook may leave, and I'd guess he will retire in the next couple years, but I don't see much chance that a new CEO would change course significantly. By the measure of increasing company and brand value, Tim Cook has been one of the most wildly successful CEOs in the history of business. People will never treat him with the reverence they treat Steve Jobs, but if you're a long-term holder of AAPL, Tim Cook did a lot more for you than Steve Jobs ever did.

    ETA: by the way, I'm describing what I see as the state of the world, not endorsing it.

    Understood, I can't blame the messenger:) I don't mind the subscription models. I'm free to pick and choose the services that I find beneficial. I just don't like when companies piss on me then tell me its raining. "And with the incredibly powerful and efficient A16 Bionic chip and all-day battery life, this is the best iPhone yet." Now all of a sudden the A16 is not powerful enough to process LLM.

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